IP Camera Installability Shootout 2019 - Avigilon, Axis, Bosch, Dahua, Hanwha, Hikvision, Uniview, Vivotek

By John Scanlan, Published Dec 09, 2019, 11:27am EST (Research)

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Derek Ward

| 12/09/19 04:50pm

FWIW, The one positive I will give cameras with cable whips and the outside-of-dome video out connector is that you can view the camera WITH the dome on LOCALLY before you get down from a ladder or lift. Some camera domes fit tight onto the lens and can slightly "shift" the view when the dome is getting back on. Other times, the dome partially obscures the view, so you can make a quick adjustment using the whip (if available). Not the most common occurrence, but useful if & when applicable.

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Ethan Ace

IPVM | In reply to Derek Ward | 12/09/19 07:11pm

Counterpoint: How do you access the end of the cable whip of a camera that's already been mounted? And once you have, what you'll learn is that either the view is correct and you don't need to take the dome off, or it's incorrect and you need to take the dome off regardless, no?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

In reply to Ethan Ace | 12/09/19 07:21pm

Depending on the installation environment, a connection for focusing on the whip isn't useful, as it may be inaccessable once the camera is mounted... If it is a drop ceiling you can just move another tile to get access, but other surfaces you make the connection, feed the cables though and that is it. Even if there is a back box, it is often stuffed in there and very difficult to get to. Having a port to connect to (USB, wifi, analog, etc.) on the dome side can be a big time saver...

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Ethan Ace | 12/09/19 08:08pm

Counterpoint: How do you access the end of the cable whip of a camera that's already been mounted?

in the real world, or in the lab? :)

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Undisclosed Integrator #3

In reply to Ethan Ace | 12/12/19 03:53pm

As has been pointed out, there are some instances like in a drop ceiling where you can still access the whip. And if you have that scenario, it can be useful to do one final check before leaving that location. So what you can learn is that you need to take the dome off before coming down the lift/ladder, going back to the security office and realizing you have to do it all over again. Or worse, come back in a month once the network is finally ready and the lifts have been removed from the job site. Hypothetically of course!

Having said all that, I would like to note that I am generally against whips but am more ambivalent in a drop ceiling environment. Just wanted to counter the counterpoint a bit :)

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Forgot to say thanks for the article!! There are a lot of great points in the comparisons. I really like the Hanwha packaging that allows for bench configurations without having to open the box and mess with the camera. I have also started really liking the cameras that allow the easiest replacement capability. So leaving the back plate there and just swapping the guts is a big plus for me. One problem I have had with various manufacturers over the years is that I feel like they never try to put a patch cable in the housing before deciding on a design. Some have terrible angles to get the patch cable from the access hole into the actual port.

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IPVMU Certified | 12/09/19 05:08pm

thanks for doing what would be every integrator’s worst nightmare:

a 35 camera install with 35 different models !

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Jason Crist

IPVMU Certified | 12/10/19 01:10pm

Nearly 50% of the new models are banned for use in federal installations. Of the new models released do those two manufacturers make of the same ratio?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Jason Crist | 12/10/19 01:20pm

Nearly 50% of the new models are banned for use in federal installations

Also, from manufacturers sanctioned for human rights abuses.

Of the new models released do those two manufacturers make of the same ratio?

Roughly, probably yes. Dahua and Hikvision make far more models than any other manufacturer. Even, Axis who makes, by far, the most of non-China models, does not come anywhere to Dahua and Hikvision.

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IPVMU Certified | 12/12/19 07:00pm

“The Czech Republic, Portugal and Poland.”

“What are the three countries least known for manufacturing security cameras?”

”Correct.”

“Ok, I’ll take Whips and Dongles for $200.”

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