IFSEC 2019 Show Report

By John Honovich and Charles Rollet, Published Jun 19, 2019, 03:48pm EDT

The UK's largest trade show, IFSEC, is underway and IPVM has been examining what is new and happening at the show.

Inside, we cover:

  • Huawei Is Out
  • GDPR Changes
  • Dahua Adds Umbrella Analytics
  • Dahua Live Facial Recognition, No Permission
  • Hikvision No Facial Recognition
  • Avigilon and Hikvision Heavy Advertising
  • Show Traffic Good
  • Shrinking Floorplan
  • Surveillance Camera Commissioner Tony Porter IPVM Interview
  • Human Rights Watch Calls Out Hikvision
  • "The foreign propaganda window of China's market economy"
  • Axis GDPR and LPC Releases
  • Anyvision Funding And On-Board Camera FR
  • Genetec GDPR Marketing / Anti-Face
  • Unknown US Company Claims 'NO FALSE ALARMS'
  • Influencers Decline
  • Embarrassing Tavcom Education on ONVIF Vs PSIA
  • IFSEC Banning Rival Media
  • Milestone Not Exhibiting

Huawei ** ***

***** ****** *** * major ***** ******** ** 2018, ** ********* ** being*** * ******** ** video *************** ** ** *** front **** ** ** news *** **, ****** is ******* **** ***** this ****.

***** *** ***** *** 2018 *****:

****** **** **** * presence ** ***** *** only ******* ***** ********* subsidiary, ***** ****** ****** who ******** **** ***** surveillance *******, ** **** marketing *****:

********* ******** ** ******* about *** ****** ** other ****** *******. **** were ******* **** ******** such ** '**** ******* facial *********' *** ** live ****** *********:

***** *** ** ****** is ************ ** ****** video ************, ** ** surprising **** ****** ***** not ****** ***** ********* video ************ ********* ** Europe.

GDPR *******

*********'* **** / *** complaint ** ****, ***** ** ******** their ********, ****** **** prominent ***** *** ****** to **** **** *** their ********** ** *********** with ****:

****** *********** ** ***** being ****** **** ** the **** *****, ********* without *** ******* *********. The **** ****** ************* is **** **** *** 'not *********' ** **** it ** ** **** 'anonymized ********* ****' *** pictures ** *****.

Dahua **** ****** ***********

***** *** **** ****** recognition ** *** ******* below ***** **** **** scanning ******** ******* ** and ******** ** *** if **** **** ** their ******** ** **** a '********':

Dahua **** ******** *********

***** *** * *** accessory ********* ********, ***** will ***** ***** ** identify *** ****** *** individuals ******** *********. * Dahua ***** ****** ********* that **** ** * new *******:

** *** ** ****** realizing ** **** **** IPVM. **** ** *** identified *********, ** **** a ***** ******* *** shouted **** ** ******'* speak ** **.

** ** *** ***** what *** ******** ********** for ******** ********* **, however,********* **** ****** * symbol ** ********* **** ****.

Dahua ***** ***********

** **** ** ***** live ****-******* **** ***********, Dahua *** * ****** entrance ****** ******:

*****'* ********* *** *** same ** ***** **** just **** * ********* color *** **** ****. Dahua *** ***** *** made *********** ******* **** their ** ** *** West, ****** ** ***** or ***********.

Hikvision ** ****** *********** *****

********* *** ** ****** recognition ***** **** ** saw *** ********* *** the **** ************* ** the ******* ********* **** spoke **** ***** *** GDPR ******, ******** *** on **** *******.

Hikvision ***** ***********

***** ********* ****** **'* 2019 *****, ** ***** heavily ** *********** *** had *** **** ****** the ******, **** *** banners **** *** *** below:

*** ***** ***** *** columns:

*** **** ******* ******* on ***** *********:

*************, ********* ***** *** no ** ******* ****** messaging, ******** ** *********** name ***********.

*** **** *********** **** floorplan *** ********* **** the **** **** ***** for ****.

Avigilon ***** ******* ***********

***** ********* ********* *********** indoors, ******** *** ** outdoors, ** ** *** last ****. *** *******, outside *** ****:

************, ******** *** * walkway ****** ***:

Solid *******

*** **** ****** ******** from ******* ********** ** spoke ** *** **** traffic *** *****, **** few ****** ** *** strongly ****** ** ***** than **** ****. *******, whether ********** *** *** same ** **** **** or ****** **** **** than ********* ***** ** unclear ** **.

********** **** *% ** 2018 ** ********** ********* ***** ****** was **** **** ****. The **** ***** ** happening ** **** ** exhibitor ********* ******** *****.

Shrinking *********

*** ***** ********* ****** with * ******* ******** in ********** ** *** far ****** **** **** occupied **** ****, ** this ******* **** *****'* Floorplan *****:

*** *** ***** ***** shows **** ** **** dead ********** **** *** show:

***** *** *** ***** at *** ***** **** showed ********* ****** ********* receding **** *** *****:

Surveillance ****** ************ **** ****** **** *********

Image result for tony porter uk

***** ************ ****** ************ Tony ********* * ***** ********* with **** (****). *** two *** ********* **** that ****** *** ******* about ********* ************* ** video ************ *** ********* to *********'* **********.

******** ** *** ******* '************ ****** ***'*** ** **** ** it, *** ** ** unveiling*** '****** ** *******' program, * ****** ******** to ******* *** ******** of ************ *******. **** it *********** ******** ** is ******* ** *** details **** *** ** released ***** ******** *** it ********* ******** ** default *********, *** ** HTTPS ** ***********, ***. Manufacturers **** ****-******* ** the ***** ****** *** those **** ********** ** concerns *** ****** **** to ******'* ****** ** review.

*** ******* ** **** Hikvision *** ******** ******* this ******* ****** ***** marketing ******** *** ********* senior ** ********** ******** Porter ** *********** ** a ********* ********* ***** immediately ***** ****** ********* the *******, ***********'* ********* *********:

****** ** ******* **** be ******** ** ** Surveillance ****** ************ **** Porter ** **** ** the ***** ******** ************ Camera ***, *** ****** of ***** ***** ***** on ******** **** ** from **** ** **:**** at *** ***** *** Note *****.Porter’s ******* ** ******** *********** ** * ********* ********* ***** further discussing Secure by Default and featuring Tony Porter, Detective Constable Patrick McBrearty who is the Cyber Protect Officer within the Regional Organised Crime Unit for the West Midlands, Norbain’s Jeremy Hockham, and Hikvision’s Gary Harmer.

****** ** *********** ********* Hikvision's *************. ****** *** emphasize ** **** **** he ** *** ******* paid *** **** *** he ***** ** **** to ***** **** ********* events *** ***** ********* (e.g., ****, ******, *********, etc. *** **** ** the ******* *** **** of **** *** ****** any ****** ****** ** marketing ********* **** ******).

****** *** ******* ********* of *********'* **********, ********* government *********, *******, ***** rights ******,** ** ******,*********'* ******* ** ***** any ********* ******** **** their ******* ******, ***., ***** *** surprising ** ** *** such * ****** ******** and *** **** ** UK ********** ************.

*** ********* ***** ******** will ** ** ********* validation ****** *** *********. IPVM ***** ** ****** if ********* ****** ** into ***** ***** **** UK ********** ******** ******.

Human ****** ***** ***** *** *********

********** ** *********'* ******** and *** ** ********** official ******** ** *********'* marketing *****,***'******* ********** ****:

******** *****, ********** ***** held ** ********** *********, ought ** ** ******* on ********* **********, ***********, and ***** **** ** technology, *** *********** *** importance ** *** ********* for ********* ******** ** surveillance. **** ****** *** be ****** *** ***** to *************** ** ********* that *** ************ **** human ****** ********** ** Xinjiang, *** ******** ******* of * ****-**** ************ state.

CEIEC - "*** ******* ********** ******"

** *** ***-**** **********, perhaps *** **** *********** company ******* *** **** of*****, ***** ********* ******** "*** ******* ********** window ** *****'* ****** economy." *** ***** *****, however, *** *** **** of * ****** ** anything: ***** **** * few ****** *** ***** tech ***********, **** ******* and * ***** ***. The **** **** '******* Service ******'. ***** **** no *****.

Axis **** ******* ****** *** ****

**** *** ** ** / ** ******* ******* with ***** '**** ******* ******', ** ***-** ****** application **** ******* *** blurs ******. ****** *** obvious **** ***********, ** signals **** ** ******* up *** ********* *********, an **** ***** *** company *** **** *****.

***** ********* ***** ************ it *****:

*********** ** *** ******* Shield ******* ******** ******-***, newer *******, ***** ~$*** per ****** ***, ** start, **** **** ******* availability ** ******** ******. We **** ** **** it **** ******.

Axis ***** ********* *** ******

***** **** ******* *** widely **** *** ********* license ****** (******-**** ******* ***** ******* Cameras), ***** *** **** did *** ***** * dedicated / ******** *** camera. ***, **** *** introducing ******* *****-**, ******** ** ****** cars ********* ** ** 81mph *** ** ********* of ** ** *** meters. **** ** $*,***.

**** **** *** ******** color ****** (*** **** cameras) ** **** *** "gray ***** ******* *** black ************* ****** ***** in ** *** ******* environment."

Genetec ***-**** / *********** ****-**** ***********

******* ** ********** ***** pro-GDPR / *********** ****-**** recognition ******** ** ********** their ************* *************:

** ************* ******* ********* ****. ** ***** ** a ****** ***** ******** to *** **** ********* continuing ** **** **** facial ***********.

Anyvision ******* $** ******* ****

*** ********* *********** ******* continues ** *****. **** started ***** ****** '*' with $** ******* ** 2018, **** ** **** to $** ******* ** January ****, *** *** they********* ** ** ** to $** *******. ** ** * monster ****** ** ******* for ******* ***** ************ standards, ** *** ** close. *******, *** **** China ****** *********** *********, Sensetime *** ****** **** still ****** **** **** (e.g.,****** ****** *** **** amount - $*** ******* in ***).

***** ********* *** **** facial *********** ** $*,*** per ******* ** **** sell, ****** ** ***** it ** ******* ****** China ** *****.

* ************ ******* **** in *********'* *** ******* is ***, *********'* ******* capital *** ***** ***** the ******* ** *********** from * **** **** company ** *** ***.

Anyvision ********* **** ***** ***********

** ****, ********* *** been ******* ** ****** substantial ******* ***** ***** **** *** discussing ******** ******* *** ******** ** security ******* ***** *********.********* *** **** ********** its *** ******** ****** line ** ******** **** ************.

Unknown ** ******* ****** ** ***** ******

** *** ** *** most ********** ********* *****, a ** *******,************ *********** '** ***** ALARMS' *** **** ****:

**** *** ******* ***** appliance *** $***, ****** their ******* ********* ***** it ** '*******'.******** ***** **** * employee *********

Embarrassing ****** ********* ** ***** ** ****

**** *** **** ******* who '********' ****** ******** ******** ***** ** limited ** * ** cameras, ***** * ******* lesson ***** ******* *** should ****** ***** ** PSIA *** *****, ** the ***** ******* ***** shows:

**** *** ***** *** been **** *** **** years. ******** ***** ** '******'. ** ** * shame *** *** ******** and ********** *** *** UK *** *** **** has ********** ********** *** pioneers *** ******* ** CCTV / ***** ************.

"Influencers' *******

*** * ****** ** years, ***** *** *** an '***********' *******, ******* **** ************* *** ****** ********** we **** ****, **** few ********** ** *** even ***** *** ********* it ****. ** **** never ***** ** **** of ***** ******. **** are *****'* *** * thought *******:

Auto *****

** * ******* ****, Korean ************ ****** *** marketing **** '*****':

UK ***** ***********

*** ** *** **** bizarre ******** ** *** show ** **** **** Media, *** ************ **** owns ******** *****, ******** News ****, ***, **** that ***** *** ****** their ******:

*** ***’* ** ****** any *****, ************* **-***** publications ** *** ***** shows **** **** ******* they **** **** ****** from *********

** **** *** **** impacted ** ****, ** far.

** **** ***** **** any ******** **** *** media **** *********. **'* strange.

Milestone *** **********, ***** *** ********* *********

** ********** ******* ** *****, Milestone ******* ** ********** ** ***** **** year *** ***** *** Hikvision ************* ********* ***** booths.

********* ****:

********* ** ********** ********** the ****** ** *** investment ** ***** ***** in *******, *** **** found **** ***** ** EMEA ** ****** ** attractive ** **. ** 2019 ** **** **** much **** ********* ** digital ********* *** *** own ******.

***** ***** *********** ** the ********* *********.

Day * **** **

**** **** ** ********** our ******** ******* *** end ** *** **** and, ** **********, *** Surveillance ****** *** *** the ****** ** '****** by *******'.

Comments (15)

John Honovich

IPVM | 06/19/19 07:54pm

I've said this many times before but I'll repeat it again here. Hikvision is the best run and savviest China manufacturer. Both not doing face recognition (which is not going to sell much anyway) and teaming up with Tony Porter are great moves. Sure, it is cringeworthy that a UK government official is so oblivious but Hikvision sees the opening and takes advantage.

And then there's Dahua...

Agree: 10
Disagree: 1
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny: 1

Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

In reply to John Honovich | 06/20/19 01:46pm

Everyone: “Dahua, why would you be marketing  such a specific umbrella analytic?”

PRC: “I see nothing odd here.”

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny: 2

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

06/19/19 10:15pm

Thanks for the update JH, look forward to the show recap.

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny

Undisclosed #2

06/19/19 11:16pm

A few comments:

1.Ceic is a Chinese sales agent / travel agent. They organize the Chinese pavilions of the smaller exhibitors and are not a manufacturer. What you saw is their service booth

2. A correction: Wonwoo is a korean zoom module manufacturer, quite established. They have manufacturing facility in China if I am not mistaken, perhaps that's at the reporter made a mistake.

Agree
Disagree
Informative: 2
Unhelpful
Funny

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 06/19/19 11:23pm

Thank you. Wonwoo's country was my mistake, corrected.

As for CEIEC, we did not say they were a manufacturer. We simply reported their own self-description: "As the foreign propaganda window of China’s market economy"

Agree: 1
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny: 1

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to John Honovich | 06/19/19 11:44pm

Yeah, had to chuckle at that.  Perhaps that's a laudable accomplishment in China. 

Agree: 1
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny: 1

Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

In reply to John Honovich | 06/20/19 05:25pm

"We simply reported their own self-description: "As the foreign propaganda window of China’s market economy"

Hilarious.  My guess is that the writer of that line is already in a voluntary re-education camp with limited rights to leave.  In all fairness the word "propaganda" is very subjective.   Rule #1 is to never describe your own message as "propaganda" 

Agree: 1
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny: 1

Undisclosed #2

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5 | 06/20/19 11:39pm

I think you are all reading too much into it...probably bad translation done by some newbie in the company with bad English skills.

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 06/21/19 12:52am

with bad English skills

For an exhibition in England?

I agree it's probably not sinister as 'foreign propaganda window' sounds to a native English speaker but it's a bit weird, minimally.

Btw, I've heard organizations like them heavily subsidize exhibiting fees for Chinese companies, have you heard of that?

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny

Undisclosed #2

In reply to John Honovich | 06/21/19 01:42am

For an exhibition in England?

You work with what you have i guess...if the boss doesn't speak English at all, he has no way of doing quality control, and bosses usually don't like to spend extra money on professional translation and proofreading. The decision making process was more likely: "Hey! you studied English in university right? you make the brochure..."  

Subsidies:
The subsidies come from the CN government (either central government or local government, depending on who has the budget for it).
Subsidy levels depend on the the country of the exhibition and the industry field and are classified in tiers (e.g. 20% subsidy, 30% ... all the way up to fully subsidized)  The subsidy is usually capped at 2 booths per company and only covers the costs for the floor space. 

The decision how much to subsidize is made by the government and depends on the importance of the industry and the target market. for example, if the government decides it is important to support the pipe industry, pipe exhibitions will be fully subsidized (no matter the country), conversely, if the government decides to support business with Russia then exhibitions in Russia (regardless of industry) will receive more subsidy than Germany (which might not receive any subsidies that year). 

The subsidy is nice to have, but in reality can be quite a pain... you need to pay for the exhibition first, then submit all the documents to the government and wait to receive the money back (usually it takes a year to get the money refunded to you by the gov, in extreme cases it takes up to 2 years to receive the refund) 


These agencies work as an "aggregator" for subsidy information and application. they keep track of the different available government support schemes and help to apply on behalf of the manufacturers (there is a lot of paper work involved). The agencies make their money from extra services like stand construction, hotel and plane bookings etc. Basically it is sort of a "tour group" experience for the participating companies, everything is taken care of for the manufacturer  and the cherry on the top is that they can get some of the money back from the government. 

Subsidies for electronic security industry in China:
Not too many in the last 2-3 years, the central government has cut them substantially. from what i see the recent available subsidies are all on the state level/municipal level. 

How much do they actually get?
I am not too familiar with EU and US, but i think it is 30% or 50%. 

To be honest, the government support is very nice to have, but not as sweet as it sounds...  there is a cap on the amount you can get back,  you need to wait for a year to get the money back from the government, it covers only the payment for the exhibition floor space and doesn't cover all the other related costs of plane tickets, accommodation costs, freight forwarding, material printing etc. so in the end you still need to fork out a substantial amount of money if you go to an expensive show like IFSEC or ISC West. 


Agree
Disagree
Informative: 1
Unhelpful
Funny

Laurent Villeneuve

Genetec | IPVMU Certified | 06/21/19 02:54pm

Hi John,

This is Laurent Villeneuve, Product Marketing Manager for video management at Genetec. Thanks for the show report, those are always very insightful for us.

I would to clarify our position for the privacy protection and face recognition topics.

Promoting the protection of privacy and proving tools to help organizations with GDPR does not mean we are against face recognition. 

In our systems, both technologies can work hand in hand. It is possible to raise events and alarms with face recognition technology, while applying server-based privacy masking on the same cameras. This prevents ‘regular’ operators to identify people, but still take action on ‘suspect recognized’ alarms, for example. Higher ranked staff can then access additional information if they hold the right credentials. In that case, the supervisor would unlock the original (unblurred) video, identify the suspect and securely share the recording with the authorities.

Agree: 1
Disagree
Informative: 3
Unhelpful
Funny
Avatar

Paul Anderson

06/24/19 07:10am

Great view as always, GDPR, DPA2018 and PERC2019 ;) is at the heart or what we discuss.  Having written various papers on CCTV, Facial Recognition and Marketing around data protection we chat to many that struggle with understanding with all the rules and regs.  Even talking to Tony porter, but fear one of our papers we sent to him was not read ;)

https://www.6sglobal.co.uk/blogs/procurement-and-management-of-network-equipment-/

Keep up the great work guys

Agree: 1
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny

John Honovich

IPVM | 07/02/19 01:13am

Interesting, Security Informed has a negative take on IFSEC 2019 traffic: Reflections On A Shrinking IFSEC 2019 In London, with the most negative thing I have ever read in their publication:

Fewer exhibitors meant larger aisles and plenty of room to breathe, and the slower pace provided time for exhibitors to reflect (often negatively) on the return on investment (ROI) of large trade shows. [emphasis added]

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny

Undisclosed Distributor #6

In reply to John Honovich | 07/02/19 01:27am

That's hilarious. Good old British irony. 

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny

Undisclosed

07/17/19 08:50pm

I thought the signage about recording was a step in the right direction.  Small show but interesting.

Agree
Disagree
Informative
Unhelpful
Funny
Read this IPVM report for free.

This article is part of IPVM's 7,030 reports, 935 tests and is only available to members. To get a one-time preview of our work, enter your work email to access the full article.

Already a member? Login here | Join now
Loading Related Reports