Hikvision Value Express IP Cameras Tested Poorly

By: IPVM Team, Published on Sep 05, 2018

ipvm testedEven lower cost Hikvision products?

Their new Value Express line is marketed for applications where "budgets are limited and performance is expected", substantially less expensive than their existing Performance and Value series models.

We bought and tested new Value Express models, the ECI-T22F turret and ECI-D12F dome, against Hikvision's existing Performance Series (formerly Value Plus H.265) to answer:

  • How does <1 Lux/IR image quality compare?
  • How even is IR coverage?
  • How do they compare in WDR scenes?
  • How different are their construction and physical features?
  • How do bitrates compare?
  • How does price compare to existing models?

If 'performance is expected', our testing shows these cameras are a poor choice as they suffer from a number of fundamental problems that Hikvision's existing cameras do not.

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  • *** **** ** ** coverage?
  • *** ** **** ******* in *** ******?
  • *** ********* *** ***** construction *** ******** ********?
  • *** ** ******** *******?
  • *** **** ***** ******* to ******** ******?

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*** ***** ******* ****** performed ***** **** *********'* previous ***-*** ***** (***** Plus/Performance) ** ******** ****:

  • ******* "***** **" *********:***** ******* ********, "***** Supplemental *****" **, ****** the ***** ** ** effectively **** ****** ~**' range, **** * ****** central "*********" ******. *******, turning ***** ************ ***** off ****** ****** ************ at ****** ** ** ~30-40', ****** *** ***** was **** ****** ******* with ********* ******** ** ~100'. ***** *********** **** choose ** **** **** to *** ******* ** subjects ** ***** ** detect ******** ******* ** at *** ***** ** the *****, ** **** were *** ******** ** our *******.
  • **** ** ********:** ******** ** ******* center ***, **** ******** difficult ** ****** ** the ***** ** *** field ** ****, **** no ****** *******. **** is **** ********** ** which "***** **" ******** are ****.
  • ** **** ***/**** ***********:**** ** * ***** day, ***** ******* ****** performed ****** ******* ******* backlight, **** ** ****** details ** ******** ** darker ***** ** *** scene, **** **** ***** than *********** ****** ****** which ******* **** ***.
  • **** *-**** ******:*** ***-*** ***** ******* dome **** * *-**** gimbal, ****** ******/*********** **** difficult **** *** *-**** gimbal **** ** *****/*********** series ******, ***** *** imager ****** ** ******* when ******* ***-*****.

*******, **** ********* ****** imaging *** ******* ******* to ***** ********* ******, with ******* ****** ** detail.

Dome/Turret *********** ****** *********

** ****** * ***** Express ******, *** **** turret *** **** ****, but ***** *********** ****** identical ** ***** *****, including ***** ************ ***** issues, ** ************ *** coverage, *** ***********, *******, and ****.

******* ** **** **********, we ******** **** *** T22F ****** *** ********** below, ** ****** ******* continue ** ******** ** preference ***** *********** *** outdoor *** **** *****.

Physical ********

***** ******* ****** ****** similar ** ***** ********* series *******, ***** **** of *** **** ********, connectors, *** ******** **********. However, ***** *** ******* differences, ** ****:

  • *** **** ******:*** ***** ******* **** uses * *-**** ******, unlike *********'* *********** *** Value **** ****** ******, as **** ** **** cameras ** ****, **** low-cost ******. **** ****** makes ****** **** *********, especially **** ******** *** dome **** ** *** wall ******* ** *******, or **** *** ******* is *** *****.
  • ** ** ****:****** *********** *** ***** series ******, ***** ******* cameras ** *** ******* an **-***** ** ****.

** **** ** *** physical ******** ** ***** Express ****** ** **** video ***** (****: ***** is *********, ******* *** IP67 *********):

****

**** ********* ***** ******* bullet *** **** ****** sell *** $**-*** ******, significantly ***** **** ********** Value/Performance ****** ******, ~$***-$*** online.

***** ******* ******* ** more ******* ** ***** low-cost ****** **** *********'* **** ******** **** ****** ******* of*****************, *** ****** ** the $**-** *****.

Severe "***** ************ *****" **** *****/************ ******

** *** *****, ******* the ******* *******' "***** Supplemental *****" ******* ****** on (*******) ****** *** camera ** ****** ******** so **** *** ****** of *** ***** ** view ** **-**' *** illuminated, **** *** ***** of *** ***** *** longer ********* ****** ***** black.

*******, ******* **** ******* off ******** *********** *******, drastically ******** ***** ******* at ********* ** ** ~30', ****** ********* *** possible ** ****** ****** up ** *** ******'* specified ***/**' ** *****.

*** ********* ***** ***** the **** ***** ** view **** *** *** turret **** ***** ************ Light ** *** *** to **** **** ********:

smart-supplemental

Close ***** ******* ** **** ***** *********: **** ***

******* ** **** ****** tradeoff ** ****** *** detection, ***** *********** **** choose ******* ***** ***** details ** ****** ********* at **** ***** *** desired. ********** ** ****** Smart ************ ***** ***** manual ****** (*-***) *** not ****** **** *****, either.

** **** *** ****** in ***** ***** ************ Light, ** **** ******** images **** ** ****** both ** *** *** in ********** ****** *****.

<1 *** ***** *******

***** * *** ** ~10', ***** ***** ************ Light ******** ** ******* facial *** ***** ******* in **** *** ***** Express ****** ******* *** the *********** ****** *******. Turning ***** ** *** overexposed *** *******, ********* no ****** ******* *** only * *** ******* in *** ***** **** of *** *****.

1 lux performance - value express vs performance series 10

** ~**', ****** *** distance, **** ******* **** all ****** ******* *** legibility ** **** **** the ***** **** ** the *****. **** **** using ***** ** ** this ***** ******** ******* darker ******, ****** ******* it *** ****** *** subject ******* *** ******* letters ** *** **** chart.

1 lux performance - value express vs performance series 30

******* ** ~***' ** camera ******** *** ****** details *** ** **** low ***. *******, *** Value ******* *** *********** Series ******* ******* ********* of *** *******

**** *** *** ** Smart **, *** ******* is *** *********** *** only ******* *** ******* off ******** ****** ** power ** ***** *** specified ***' ** ********. At **** ********, **** the ***** ******* *** Value ****** ******* **** provided ********* ** *** subject.

1 lux performance - value express vs performance series 100

Uneven ** ********

***** ******* ****** *** not ********** *** **** field ** ****, **** a *********** ****** *******, regardless ** ***** ************ Light ********.

*** *******, **** ***** Supplemental ***** **, *** subject ****** ** **** at *** ** *** edge ** *** ****:

uneven ir coverage - very dark at edges

*******, **** ** ****** off *** *** ***** brighter, *** ******* ** still *** **** ***********, with **** ***** ******* visible, ** *********** ********.

uneven ir coverage - center overexposed no details at edge

No **** ***

***** ******* ****** ** not ******* **** *** capability, *** ***** ** the **** ** ********'* Value **** *** *********** lines, **** ******* ***. Because ** ****, **** against ********** *** ********* (~1,400 *** ** ** overcast/rainy ***), ******* ******* and ******* ******* ****** washed ***.

wdr testing field of view

******** ** *** **** WDR *********** ****** *****, the ***** ******* ** moderately ****** *** ******* strong *********, **** ******* details ********* ** *** in *** **** **** inside *** ****.

poor wdr performance compared to performance series

Day ***** *******

****** *** ***, ** ~10 **** *** ***** Express ****** *** *********** Series ******* ******* ******* details, ****** **** ** very ******** **** ******* in *** *********** ****** 2325 *****.

daytime images similar to performance series 10

** **', ******* *** again ******* *******, **** PPF ********* ** ~**.

daytime images similar to performance series 30

No *.*** ***********

*** ***** ******* ****** does *** ******* *.***, unlike ***** *********** ****** models **** ** *** 2325 ****** ****.

******** **** ******* ****** than *** *********** ****** turret, ********** ** *****. Note **** ***** ************ were ***** **** ******** motion ** *** *****,*.***+/*.***+**, ** ******* **** realistic ********. ***** ****** may ** ************* *****.

VMS ***********

*** ********* ***** ****** cameras ********* ** ********, Exacq, *********, *** ******* Optix ***** ********* *******, though **** ******* ***** lists *** ******* ** supported.

Versions ****

*** ********* ******** **** used ** **** ****** during *******:

  • ********* ***-*****: **.*.* ***** 180210
  • ********* ***-*****: **.*.* ***** 180627
  • ********* **-**********-*: **.*.** ***** 180718
  • ********* **-**********-*: **.*.** ***** 180622

Comments (16)

Readers should note that Value Express is a North American model line name. We believe, but cannot confirm without examining components, that these are models sold as HiLook or HiWatch elsewhere in the world.

For example, the ECI-T22F turret in North America is very similar in appearance and specs to the IPC-T220 turret, called HiLook in Europe and HiWatch in the UK. And in some other areas, we've seen similar models in the DS-2CD1XXXG0-I series. 

Also, to note for those outside of North America: In North America, Hikvision is not (at least yet) selling HiLook or HiWatch.

What is the thought process on providing even lower costing cameras?  I don't understand the logic.  

This line is designed to compete against LTS. HIK USA were “losing” some deals to LTS. In some cases LTS is 20-40 percent cheaper than HIK USA.

I don`t think that is correct

LTS is Hikvision OEM

LTS is also selling express series with OEM Version with even cheaper price,

I think this line is designed to compete against Uniview, TVT and Dahua

I know LTS is HIK OEM that’s why I said HIK USA. I’ve had conversations with Hikvision about this. They were starting to lose deals so this was a major reason for the line. Along with have something on the shelf for the ADI guy who always runs to the branch.

Steve, so is LTS selling the lower quality equivalent of this? I am trying to understand why dealers would be open to saving money at the expense of such a noticeable decrease in quality.

Related, what we have heard for at least HiLook and HiWatch is that the lower cost offerings are more aimed at the South China companies (e.g., Longse, etc.).

Let me do some digging on this. I will have to find a cutsheet of the HIS USA and then spend some time on the LTS site to find an equivalent.

I was not impressed with the HIK Value line even before these tests. The pricing wasn't lower than LTS which was the higher lines of HIK.  

Yes LTS is selling the HIK Value Express. Look at the specs of these cameras. Should be the same. 

LTS: CMIP7422

HIK USA: ECI-D12F

 

These are what I figured out.

HIK model ==> LTS model

DS-2CD7153F-3 ==> CMIP3122

DS-2CD8253F-EI ==> CMIP5323

DS-2CD8283F-EI ==> CMIP5353

DS-2CD8254FWD-EI ==> CMIP8433

DS-2CD8253FWD-EIZ ==> CMIP8433-Z

 

 

 

Ethan, HiLook ip line supports H.265.

Hikvision and Dahua are looking to utilize the market to its’ fullest with HiLook and EasyIP, mostly targeting local brands that white-label from the smaller Chinese manufacturers. They compete against each other, and against themselves, constantly forcing their distributors to increase volumes by reducing sale price (and margin).

We don’t regularly import anything these days, but we do see our suppliers struggle on a daily basis with unethical, dishonest and manipulative treatment from their Chinese partners, and feel quite sorry for them.

I agree.

I don't this is the HiLook line.

We sell it and we did not get these IR problems that are reported here.

 

What models are you using/selling?

I did a little digging and there are two HiLook/HiWatch turret models shown on some sites internationally. The ECI-T22F we tested looks identical to the HWI-T220, while the updated version with H.265 is HWI-T220H on the European site. Other specs between the two look similar.

We are selling the:

IPC-B120H-M

IPC-D120H-M

I don't think these are the same models that you tested.

 

It is my understanding the North American specific part numbers will combat the sales of imported units flooding the US market. These North American unit cant, or shouldn't be able to be sourced in China, then sold in the US market at ridiculous prices. This should deter white or brown box units that turn to Mandarin when updated and not supported by Hik USA.

I think its a good move but was needed years ago, if indeed this was the strategy for this line. Its disappointing that a 2325 equivalent or better didnt kick off the North American series/naming scheme.  

Jumping in a bit late here but I just spec'ed some Value Express domes for a project and forgot that one of the locations will face an exterior window, requiring some decent WDR performance. I saw this report and thought I might have to substitute some other cameras for that spot, but discovered that Hikvision's 4MP Value Express cameras actually have true "120dB" WDR. The 2MP cameras do not.

4MP dome spec sheet here: Microsoft Word - VE ECI-D14Fx 112119NA

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