Hikvision Salespeople: We Don't Need A Blackbody

By: John Honovich, Published on May 13, 2020

Dahua jumped out on its cross-town rival selling fever cameras but Hikvision salespeople are fighting back, arguing that, unlike Dahua, Hikvision does not need a blackbody.

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Inside this note, we examine these statements, the match up between the two, the negatives and positives of blackbodies and the risk in this sales pitch.

*********** *** ** *** cross-town ************ ***** ******* *** Hikvision *********** *** ******** back, ******* ****, ****** Dahua, ********* **** *** need * *********.

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****** **** ****, ** examine ***** **********, *** match ** ******* *** two, *** ********* *** positives ** *********** *** the **** ** **** sales *****.

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********* ** ************** / *********** ************* *** ******* * blackbody, ** *********** **** ***** ************:

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*** **** ********* ********** is *********** ******** - with * *********, ********* says **** *** ****** ±0.3°C (±*.**°*) *** ******* a ********* ±*.*°* (±*.*°*). For *******, ** *** actual *********** ** * person *** **.*°*, ********* is ****** ***** ***********, without * *********, ***** fall ******* **.*°* ** 99.5°F.

Salespeople ******* ** *********

** **** **** ******** reports **** *** **** few ***** ** ********* salespeople ******** *** ******* of ********* *** ****** a *********.

*** *******, *** **** out ****** ** ******* marketing ********* ********* *********'* claim ****:

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************'* ***** ******** * ******* ***** he ********** ****:

**** ***********, **** **** to **** **** ** call * ***** **** camera, ***** ** *********** a ********* ********* **** Kind ** ********** *** areas ** * ******* basis. ****** **, *** with *** ******* **********. And ***** ** **** technology, *** ***'* **** to ****. ** ***'* need *** ***, *** connection ***** *** ****, too, ** ******* *** higher ******** ***********.

***** ******* **********:

*** ***** **** ** not ****. ***** *** some *********** *** ** I'll ***** **** ** again ****, **** ** need *** ***** ***. But *****, ** ** not ***** ** *** accuracy, ***** * *******.

No ************* **** *********

********* ********** ***** ************** to **** ******:

“*** *** (****** ******** Thermal) ****** ****** ******* up ** +/-*.** ********, and *** ******** *** be **** ****** ** to +/-*.** ** ****** a ********* ***********”.

*******, **** ******** ** comment ** ********* *********** specifically ******* ******* *** use ** ***********.

Negatives ** ***********

***** *** ******* ********* of ***********:

  • **** *** **** (******* are ******* **** *** thousands ** *******)
  • **** *** ** * logistical *********** ** **** need ** ** *** up ** *** *** of *** ****** ***** to ***** ****** *** moving
  • **** *** ** ******* out ** ******** ***** increases *** **** ** wrong *********** ********.

Positives ** ***********

*******, ***** ** * major ******** ** *********** in **** **** **** the ****** * ***** temperature ********* ***** ** it ** ****** ** assess **** *********** ************ (i.e., ******* **.*°* *** 100.4°F, ***.).

*** *** ******* ******* blackbodies, *.*.,**** **** *** ************* **** ************* *** *****, ****** **** ** also ************* *** **** conservative ** ***** ********** recommendations **** ***** ** Hikvision *** **** * different ********* ********.

Testing ** ********

** ****** *** **** Hikvision ******* *********** ******, including ***** ****-*** ****** and *********. ** **** to ****** ******* ** as **** ** ******** and **** ******* *** findings.

Not ******* ** ****** ***** ********

*******, **** ** *** testing ** ***, ** has ****** ***** ***** that ******** ** ****** important *** *** ********* that ** ***** ** being '**** ******.' ***** Hikvision *********** *** **** themselves ** **** ***** deals **** **** '*** black **** ** *** good' ****, ********** * claimed ******** ** ±*.*°* increases ***** ** ****** mistakes ** *** **** between ****** *** ***** is ** ***** ('******' 98.6°F *** * '*****' of ***.*°* ** ********* by ****, **********, ±*.*°*).

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Comments (41)

Undisclosed #1

05/13/20 04:27pm

**** **** ** **** what ** **** * black **** ******

**** **** * ********* like **** **** ***** they **** ** **** about **** * ********* is, *** *** ******** is ******** ** ******* they *** ********?

*** ***** **** **** not **** *** ****** more ********, ** ***** the ****** ****** ********** how *** *********** ** effecting ********** ** ** can **********.

*******, ***** *** ******* cameras *** *********** ******** are ******* ******* ********** to ** *********** *** unreliable, * ***** ** makes ***** ** ********* the **** *** ***** complexity ** * *********.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/13/20 04:54pm

*******:***'* ********** ** ***** Fever *******?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/13/20 08:01pm

* *****, **** *** reservation **** *** ****** be * ***-******* ** my **************** ** *** wording.

***** **** **** **** the ****** **** ******** because ** ******** ** an ******** ********** ********* for *** ***********. “**** is **.* ******* **/** camera. *** ** ** your ********* *** ********** ”

** **** ***, *******, increase *** +/- *********** accuracy ** *** ****** and ********** ***** **********.

*** ***, *’** ******** to ***** **** *** “do *********, **** ** it *****’* **** ****” mentality ** *****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/14/20 02:09pm

**** * ****** *** solution. *** **** *** correct **** ** *** need *** ***** **** :)

******* ***** ** ***** :)

***** * *** ****** , ****** **** ******. Than * **** ***** body *** ***** *** photo ** **. * put *** ***** **** temperature ** ** ******* Celsius ** * ******* fewer. ***** ****** *** OK, ****** * *** 37.9 **** * *** 37.8 *** ****** ** goes ****. ***** ** test * *** *********** on ***** ****** **.* .... **** *** **** the ***** **** *** temperature ** **.

** **** *** ******* they ** *** **** black **** **** *** calibrating *** ****** **** the ****** ***** ******. There ** **** ** feature ***** ** ********* the *********** ***** *** the ********.

** ** ** *****

If *** *** **** ****** ** *** ******** ***** ******** *** *********** *** **** **** ** ***** :)

** *** ** *** believe , **** *** it *** **** **

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 05/14/20 02:11pm

**** *** *********** *** camera **** *** ****** going ******. ***** ** kind ** ******* ***** is ********* *** *********** value *** *** ********.

*** *** *** ****** that *****? * ***'* understand **** ***** ********* mean ****** * ******* you ** **** **** technique *** *** ***.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to John Honovich | 05/14/20 07:26pm

* *** ******* ****.

**** **** ******* *********** of ** ******, **** add "******* ******" ** some *********. ***** ** we ******** *********** ** 35°C ********* ***** ***** 160x120 ****** *** ** showed **.*°*, **** ***** with **** ********.

Ondrej Sokol

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 05/15/20 01:49pm

* *** ******* **** this *****. ** ****** several **** ******* * was ******** ***** **** system *** *** **'* working ******* *********. ***** that ** ***** ** simulate ***** *** ****** stops ** **** ********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #10

In reply to John Honovich | 05/14/20 08:33pm

** ** ****** **** fewer **** ** ****** camera, *** *** ***** temperature ** *** ******** will ** ** ******* (All ** **** **** have **** *********** ).

****** ** *** ****** will **:

***** *** **** **** 38

****** ****** **,*

***** **.*

***** *** **.*

** *** ****** **** adjust ** **** , or *** *** ** adjust *** ****** ****.

*** ****** **** **** correctly ** ** ******* people **** ** ****** it *** **** *** will ** ****

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #10 | 05/15/20 05:11am

*** ** ******** ** the **** **** ****, all ******** **** ** much *****, ** ** will ********* ** ***** lower ******. **% ******** rise ** **** *.*°-*°* difference *** ***** ******.

** *** **** ** recalibrate ** ********* ********/******* temperature *******. **** ******* temperature **** ****** *********** in ********* ** ****** - ** ***** ****** will ********* ** **** elevated/lovered ***********.

Undisclosed Integrator #2

05/13/20 04:32pm

*'* ********** ** **** their ******** *** ** the *** *** ********* and ******* ******** ******* that *** ******** ** and ****** **** * black **** ** ****** to ***** *** ******** levels ********* ** **** cameras **** **** **** support *** *** ** a ***** **** *********.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

05/13/20 04:32pm

*** ********* ****** ** these **** ** *********** is ********** ** *********.

Undisclosed #5

05/13/20 07:13pm

**! *** ***** ****** in ******** ** * room (*** ******* ** many ******, *** ************ etc)? ** ****** ** room ***********?

****, ***** **** ********* posted **** **** ***** it.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 05/13/20 07:19pm

****, ***** **** ********* posted **** **** ***** it.

*** *** *** ********* to ******** ** *** 3rd ******? ;)

* ***'* **** *** problem **** *** ******* this *** *** ****** be ***** *** *** are **** *** *** referring ** ********.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/20 08:26pm

**, *****, *** *** right, ****** ** *******. I **** ** *******. CCTVnerds ** * ***** of ******.

*** ****, "** **** this ****" ;)

***** *** *** **** try ** *** *** confirm ** **/**** *** right ** ***.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 05/14/20 12:01pm

*** *** **** *** it ***

** *** ***** *** blackbody ** ** ********* tests. ** ******* *** one *** *** *** going ** ** ******* run. ** **** * sense ** *** *******, we ** ** ******* run *** **** **** it ** *** ************ (e.g., *****, *********, ***.). We **** **** *** their ******** (***** **** say ****** *** ********, settings, ***********, ***.). **** we *** ** ***** with ***** ******** ** minimize *** ******* ***** the ************** ** *** test.

Undisclosed #4

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 05/14/20 04:11pm

*** ****, "** **** this ****" ;)

** ** ******* **** the ****** ** **** original ****:

”****, ***** **** ** made **** ****.”

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed #4 | 05/14/20 07:27pm

******, * **** **** my ******** **** ;)

****

* ***'* :* ** let's ***** **

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

05/13/20 08:09pm

*** (****** ******** *******) LOL

Undisclosed #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 05/13/20 10:12pm

******** ****** ******** *******.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 05/13/20 08:13pm

****** ******** *******

******** ** ******* *******, it ** ****** ********. Not ********* ****, **** pointing *** **** **'* confusing *** *** ****** to **********.

*******, ******* ** '****** accurate *******' ***** ********* it *** "*********** *********", as ********* ****, ** a *******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

05/13/20 08:13pm

**'* ***** ** ** RMA *********......

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 05/13/20 08:15pm

*** *********

***? ******** **** ********* are ***** ** *** the **% ** ****** who ***'* **** * fever ***** *** ** have * *****, **** will ***** *** ***?

Undisclosed #1

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/20 08:18pm

**** **** ***** *** RMA?

*** ******** * *** see ** ******* ** people ****** ** ** Home ***** ** ****** generators ***** * *********. If *** ****** ** not ******** *** ******, does ** **** *****? You ***** ***** *** feel-good *****, *** *** need * *** ** feels *** $***.

****** *** **** ** return ***** **** **** realize ** ******** ******* calibration, ******* ** ***** it, * ******* *** dealing **** ******* *******, and **** ** *** end ** ***** ******* an ****** ******** ******.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/13/20 08:21pm

******

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/13/20 09:02pm

*** ******** * *** see ** ******* ** people ****** ** ** Home ***** ** ****** generators ***** * *********.

* ***** ****'* ***** to ** ******* ** get ** *** ********.

* ***'* **** *** coronavirus ** ***** ** play *** *** ** strikes ** **** ****** will **** ** *** these ******* *** ** least ******, *****? ****** I ** ******* **** happens ** **** **** people *** ******* ** off ** *** ****** when **'* ** ******* out (*** *** **** will ****** ********).

Undisclosed Integrator #8

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/20 09:31pm

****** * ** ******* what ******* ** **** when ****** *** ******* in *** ** *** street **** **'* ** degrees *** (*** *** that **** ****** ********).

*'* ******** ********* ******* about ****. * **** alopecia *** **** ****. 20 ******* ******* *********** mid-day = ******* *******. I **** ** *****-****** from ******** ***** *** to * *****-****** "*****".

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/20 10:15pm

** *******?!? **** ** Texas ****** ****-******! **’** be *** ******* ****!

Undisclosed #1

In reply to John Honovich | 05/13/20 11:23pm

* ***** ****'* ***** to ** ******* ** get ** *** ********.

*****, *** ** *** cameras *** *** ****** up ** *** ***** proposition ******* ** *** customers * ***** ** could ** * ********* premise *** ** *** demand.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/14/20 12:10am

******* *** *** ****** up ** *** ***** proposition ******* ** *** customers

** *******, * **** not **** **** ******* be ******* *** **** (typically **'* *** ****** that *** ******** ******, not, *.*., *** *** is *** **** ****** for **, ***.). ****, even ** ** ***, they ***** **** * replacement, *** * ******, right?

Undisclosed Manufacturer #11

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/14/20 03:43pm

*** ************ ** ****** unlikely ** ***** ** RMA *** * $*** camera *** * ****** unless ***** ** * massive ************* **** *** threat ** ****** * much ****** ******* ****** or ***** ****** ** they ***'* ** **. Or **** **** **** high ****** **** **** want ** **** ** sell ** ******* ****.

* ******* **** **** business ****** ***'* ****** care *** ******** ***** are. *** **** **** about ** ** ** will ***** **** ********* and ********* *** ******** liability ** **** ********** becomes ****** ***.

Undisclosed #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #11 | 05/14/20 03:55pm

* ******* **** **** business ****** ***'* ****** care *** ******** ***** are.

** ********* **** ******* these *** $***, **** maybe. *** **** ********** would *** ** **** happy ***** ****** * $10,000 ********.

** *** ******* ******* are *** ***** ******** useful, * ***** *** buyers *** ***** ** be *********, ********** ** light ** *** *** over-hyped ********* *** ****** being ****.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #11

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 05/18/20 05:22pm

***** *** ** ** create * ***** ** safety ** ******** ****** into ******** **** *** stop *** ****** ** infectious *******.

*** ***** ***** $** on * ***** ****** that ***** ** **** like * ****** ****** is * ******* ****** and *** ** ** a *** *** ** would **** * ******* effect ** *** ******* public.

*** **** ********** ** the ***** ********* *** the ******** ** * greater **** ** **** don't ***** *** $***.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

05/13/20 08:20pm

**'* **** **** *** entire ***** ** ****** and ******* **** *** almost ***** *********** ***** to ***......*** ** ** really **** ** *** 100% ******** ? ** wont......

***'* ***, ********* ** will *** ******* ** the ****** ***** , brands *** *********

Undisclosed #1

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #7 | 05/13/20 08:22pm

*** ** ** ****** know ** *** ***% accurate ? ** ****.

*** ** *** *** this? ***** ** ******* a *** ** ****** published ** **** ** takes ** *** * reliable *******, *** **** you *** ********* (** not) **** ***** ********.

John Honovich

IPVM | 05/14/20 12:05pm

************'* ***** ******** * *******

******: ***** **** *** now ******* ** ** LinkedIn:

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Marco Sanchez

In reply to John Honovich | 05/14/20 03:34pm

* ****'* **** **** this *** ******** ** LinkedIn. *** ** *** block *******?! ****** *** a ******....

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Marco Sanchez | 05/14/20 11:01am

**** **** ****? ;)

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Marco Sanchez

In reply to John Honovich | 05/14/20 05:25pm

*** * ****** ** brain ****** ** ** it **** ** *** page *** *** * get **. ******* **** sales ***. ** ****** says ******

Srinath Kalluri

05/14/20 05:53pm

* ** ********* ** Manufacterer #** ** ****** that *** ***** ** that **** ****** *** the "***" ****** *** humans *** **** ****** these ************ ** *** normal ***** ************? ** use ****** ** *** blackbody *********.

** **, * *** see *** **** *** be * ******* ** many *************.

**** *********, * ** wondering: ** *** **** to ******** ****** *** have ****** *** ***'* know **? ** ******** people *** **** * fever *** **** ** to **** ******?

Mathieu D'Hondt

06/02/20 08:03am

* ****** ** ***** some ******** ***** *** idea ** *********** "** the ***" **** *** last **/** ****** ********:

*******'* ** *****-** *** calibration ** * ********?

* *** ***** *** to *** *********** ***********

* *** ****** ******* core *********** *** **** temperature.

* ***'* *** *** one ***** "*******" ** adjustment *** *********** ******* without ************ ** ***** environment ******* (******* ****, humidity, ***) *** ******** data ***** *** ******* skin *********** *** **** specific ***********.

**** ** *** * would ***** ** ***** of * ***** **** because ** ********** *** first ******* ***** ***** leaves ** * *********** second ******* ** *****, which ** *** ** get **** **** **** to **** ****. **** is *********** *** **** be ****** ** ** start **** ******* *********** data ****** **** *********** adjusted ****.

**** ** **** **** data, ** ********** ***** there ** * *** of ********** *** ***** argue **** *** ****** could ** ************* ******** based ** *** ******** average ***** ***********. ******* in ********** ***** ***** is *** ****** ********** this ***'* ****.

Undisclosed #4

06/09/20 12:53pm

***** ********* *********** *** help ********** ** **** quick ***** **** **** 'the ***** **** ** not ****' ****...

*****.

***** ****** ******.

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