Gun Detecting Smartcam Startup

Author: Brian Rhodes, Published on Jul 27, 2015

Wild claims are nothing new for security products, but one startup is claiming its home camera can detect guns.

GunDetect claims it can stop gun crime and accidents in your house cold by sensing guns it can see. The new company is so confident in its claims, potential customers can try it out for free. So we did.

 

In this note, we look at the product and see if they can deliver.

**** ****** *** ******* *** *** ******** ********, *** *** startup ** ******** *** **** ****** *** ****** ****.

*************** ** *** **** *** ***** *** ********* ** **** house **** ** ******* **** ** *** ***. *** *** company ** ** ********* ** *** ******, ********* ********* ****** ** *** *** ****. ** ** ***.

 

** **** ****, ** **** ** *** ******* *** *** if **** *** *******.

[***************]

Concept ********

*** ***** ***** **** *** ************ **** ******** *** *******

Key ******

***** ******* *** *** ** ** ********* ********** ** * successful ********, ******* ******* *** ****:

  • ****** *** *********:*** ****** ****** *** ******** ** **** ******* ****** ***********. The ******* ****** *** ******* ********** * ***** ****** ** firearms,"******* **** ********** ** ******* ****. ********* ** ********* ** detect **** ** *******’* *****, ******* ** ********** ********** ** a **** ****** * *** ** * ***** ** *** it *********."
  • *** ********:  *** ******* **** ** ******** ** *** ********, ** either '*****' ** '*******' *******. *** $*** ***** ******* ***** video ** ********* ******* ******* **** ***** ***** *** **** and ***** ****** ** **** ***********. *** **** ********* ******* option **** ******* ****** ** *** ******** ********* ******* *** send *** **** ******. *******, *** $*** ******** ***** ****** compared ** *** ***** *******, ********** ******** ** ******** ******.
  • ****** ******: **** * ******* ** ********, ****** ****** **** *** same ****** ** ****** *****. * *****-***** *** ****** ** alerted ** *** ***** ****** *** ********, *** *** ****** then ****** * **** ******* ** ****** *****.  ** *** is ******.

Product ********

** **** *********** ******* ** ***** ** *** ****** **** been ********, *** *** ***** ******* **** ** *** ******:

*** ******* ******* ***** *** ****** ********* ** * ******** appliance ****, ********* ** *******, ** *** ***** ********* ********* or *** ******* **** ********* **** ***** ********* *******.

***** **** ******* *** ********* ** *********'* ***** ********* ** SMS ******* ******* * *** ****'* **** ****.

*******

*** *********** *******, *** **** ********* '*****' ******* ***** $***, *** *** faster-detecting '*******' ******* ***** $***.  **** ****** ** ************* ******** and *******, *** * **** **** ******** ***** **** **** to ******* **** **********, *** *** ********** ******* ** ***** to *** ********* **** *********.

Visual ********* ****

****** ***** ******** ********* **** *** ***********, ********* **** * machine ****** ****** ** *** ********. *** ******* ****** **** is *** ** ******* *** *** *********** ******, ** ******* using ****-********* ******** ** ********** *** ************* **** *********, **** even ***** ******* ****** ******* ******* $*,*** *** **** *** ******

*******, ********* *** ****** '***' *** *** ***** **** ** will ** ****** ** ****** ********* ** ********* ******** ********, even ** *** ****** ** ******* *** *** *** ********* to **** ** *** ******'* ***** ** ****.

Free **** **** 

** * **** ****, ********* ******* *** ***** ****** *** ****** ********** ***** ** ****** ***** *** ******** ** *** if ***** ******** *** **** **** ** ******.

** ********* * ********* ****** ** **** *** ******, ** varying ****** **** ******** **** ********.  ** *** * ** submitted, ********* **** ********** **'* *** *** ***** *** ****** ** these ******* ******:

*) ** ***** **** ****** ******** * *******:

 *) * ******* *********** * **** ******* ****** *** ******:

** **** *****, ******* * ********** ***** *** ******** ******* being ** *** ***** ** ****, *** ******** *** *** detect * ***.

** ******** ******* ***** **** * ******, *** ********** ****, revolver ****** ******* ***** *** ****. *** ******** ****** **** ****:


***** **** ** ****** ******* **** *** **** **** ** a ******* ******** ** *** ********, **** *** ******* ****** "**’** *** ***** ******* ******** ** ** ****** ***** **** and *** ******** **** **** *******. *** ********* *** ****, such ** *** ******* ****** ** **** **** *** ***** actors ** *** ******** *****, ** ** ******** ****** ** err ** *** **** ** ******." *** ***** ******* **** **** ********* ** ******* ** 'erring ** *** **** ** ******', ** *** *** ***** at ***.

*******, *** ******** *** *** ****** ****.  *** *******, *** toy *** ***** *** *** **** *** ******:

*** *** ****** *** ******** ***** ***** ** *** ******* in **** *****:

*******, *** ********** **** ********* ******** ** **** *** **** than *** '**** **%' ******** *******.

Our ***************

******: **** **** **** *********.  **** ** *** ****** ** able ** ******** * ******* ** **** ****, ***** ** a **** ****** *** *** **** ****** ** *** ***** or *** *** **** ** ********* ******** ** **** ****** for *** ***** ** ****.

** ********* *** ****** ** *** ********** *******,****** * ****** *** **** ** ********** ******* ****** ***** **** ******, *** * ***** ***** of **** **** *** ******* **** **** **** *** ****** price *** *********.

Comments (13)

I agree with your recommendation. Although $500 for a gun safe is a little on the low side. We install alarm contacts on safes all the time and have them send push notifications to the users phone when the safe detects vibration or its opened. User can then check their cameras using video verification during the alarm. Much better solution.

"$500 for a gun safe is a little on the low side."

Big, big volume discounts in Oklahoma...

Good point, worth clarifying. 'Gun safe' is a fairly broad category.

I think you're talking about the vault type, with the formal spinning combo lock, fire rated heavy steel construction, and 15 or 20 gun capacity. Indeed, I'll agree $500 does not fairly describe those. Maybe not even $5000 for some of the 'deluxe' models that have more options than a new Cadillac. Really nice! (Although I've never seen a 'living room' install):

I am referreing to a handgun safe, which is generally small enough to cram under a bed. A small box like that is easily stolen and even pried open with tools, but it does keep small children from handling the contents.

I figured you were referring to the small lockers. I've got the same Liberty. No ones picking it up and moving it. Even with those small safes you can throw a wireless transmitter on, that will give you better detection than one of those gun cams.

I actually have seen a living room install. A paramour of mine from my younger days had one in her living room, filled with what must have been over a hundred grand worth of antique firmarms and handguns. She was a champion trapshooter, in spite of being of very petite stature.

Every time I went to her apartment, that Tommy Shaw song, "...I thought I could handle a girl with guns..." would go through my head.

The relationship probably lasted a few months longer than it should have. Good times.

Surely you got to see her BedBunker? ;)

If I roll my eyes any more I will be blind.

C'mon, is this a real product?

Nothing on Kickstarter is a real product :)

I think they would be better licensing the software out; I see more benefits using the analytics in many different other ways rather than in a single product. About the testing, sure, the analytics could use some work; the 40+ images that I used, 36 of them accurately detected the gun, even at a distance of 15 feet away.

Not sure what's worse, this idea or Tom Smykowski's Jump-to-Conclusions mat.

Not a bad idea, but you're going to need a false-negative rate at least below 10% for this to be a viable commercial analytic.

No storeowner will buy this if 60% of the time it fails to detect a gun

You are being more than fair in granting that the toy gun did not 'fool the system'. Based on the other results, I doubt it even considered the toy gun as a candidate weapon.

But I'm wondering why the thing is using still photos to detect firearms and not several frames of video? Object recognition is greatly aided by even just a few extra frames.

Also, maybe there is a glimmer of hope in the fact that it asks you if it guessed right or not, does that mean that it is learning and will do better in the future?

If it learns from its mistakes, and since criminals often return to the scene of the crime, you may have better luck with repeat offenders. ;)

Also, maybe there is a glimmer of hope in the fact that it asks you if it guessed right or not, does that mean that it is learning and will do better in the future?

Yes, the company cites adaptive/ feedback 'learning' as example of the 'deep learning' analytic, but the process is unclear how they will implement this feature in production.

Presumably, if the device sends you a false alarm, you just tag it as such in the app and over time it refines detection. But man, that seems like a major showstopper for the consumer market that just want it to work after they plug it in.

Login to read this IPVM report.
Why do I need to log in?
IPVM conducts unique testing and research funded by member's payments enabling us to offer the most independent, accurate and in-depth information.

Related Reports on Startup

UK VSaaS Startup Ocucon on Jul 03, 2018
Decreasing exposure to fraudulent slip-and-fall insurance claims and lawsuits is one of the oldest selling points of video surveillance for retail....
Camio Wins 24,000 Camera AI VSaaS Customer on Jun 29, 2018
Silicon Valley Artificial Intelligent VSaaS startup Camio has announced it has won a 24,000 camera deal, a sizeable system for a small...
IFSEC 2018 Final Show Report on Jun 20, 2018
IPVM attended the IFSEC show for the first time this year. The Chinese took over the show, centered on Hikvision, flanked by Dahua, Huawei and a...
Cybersecurity Startup VDOO Disclosing 10 Manufacturer Vulnerabilities Starting With Axis And Foscam on Jun 20, 2018
Cybersecurity startup VDOO has uncovered significant vulnerabilities in Axis cameras along with many others not yet disclosed. In this report, we...
China Public Video Surveillance Guide: From Skynet to Sharp Eyes on Jun 14, 2018
China is expanding its video surveillance network to achieve “100%” nationwide coverage by 2020, including facial recognition capabilities and a...
Ambitious Mobile Access Startup: Openpath on May 24, 2018
This team sold their last startup for hundreds of millions of dollars, now they have started Openpath to become a rare access control small...
N3N "Truly Open Visualization Platform For Physical Security" Profile on May 09, 2018
A Cisco-backed startup, N3N, claims to deliver "the world’s first and only truly open visualization platform for physical security." The company...
Chinese Manufacturer Kickstarter Campaign Huge Success (EverCam) on Apr 23, 2018
In a week, a Chinese manufacturer's expertly done Kickstarter campaign has received $1.4 million in pledges, an incredible amount for a video...
Rare Video Surveillance Fundraising - Verkada $15 Million on Apr 19, 2018
Fundraising in video surveillance (and the broader physical security market) has been poor recently. Highlights are few and far in between...
Best and Worst ISC West 2018 on Apr 16, 2018
ISC West 2018 had strong attendance, modest overall new products, and a surge in Artificial Intelligence marketing. First, here are 20+...

Most Recent Industry Reports

Amazon Ring Alarm System Tested on Jul 16, 2018
Amazon Ring is going to hurt traditional dealers, and especially ADT, new IPVM test results of Ring's Alarm system underscore. IPVM found that...
Hikvision Wins Chinese Government Forced Facial Recognition Project Across 967 Mosques on Jul 16, 2018
Hikvision has won a Chinese government tender which requires that facial recognition cameras be set up at the entrance of every single mosque...
Installing Dome Cameras Indoors Guide on Jul 16, 2018
IPVM is producing the definitive series on installing surveillance cameras. This entry covers one of the most common scenarios - installing dome...
Security Sales Course Summer 2018 on Jul 13, 2018
Based on member's interest, IPVM is offering a security sales course this summer. Register Now - IPVM Security Sales Course Summer 2018 This...
US Tariffs Hit China Video Surveillance on Jul 13, 2018
Chinese video surveillance products avoided tariffs for the first two rounds. Now, in the third round, many video surveillance products will be...
Last Chance - July 2018 IP Networking Course on Jul 12, 2018
Registration ends today, Thursday. Register now. This is the only networking course designed specifically for video surveillance...
4 Most Difficult Camera Installs (Statistics) on Jul 12, 2018
Heavy housings, cumbersome brackets, heavy ladders required, and tricky field of view requirements will cause difficulties no matter the camera...
Axis Perimeter Defender Video Analytics Tested on Jul 12, 2018
Axis 'high security' video analytics offering is Perimeter Defender, OEMed / developed with Digital Barriers. But how good is Perimeter Defender?...
Hikvision Fights Ban - Claims 'Red Scare', Hires 14 Term Ex-Congressman on Jul 11, 2018
Hikvision is fighting back against the House Bill Ban of their products. Hikvision has hired one of the biggest lobbying firms, led by a 14 term...
Arecont Acquisition By Costar on Jul 11, 2018
Arecont Vision acquisition by Costar Technologies has been approved by the court, concluding the bankruptcy process triggered by Arecont's...

The world's leading video surveillance information source, IPVM provides the best reporting, testing and training for 10,000+ members globally. Dedicated to independent and objective information, we uniquely refuse any and all advertisements, sponsorship and consulting from manufacturers.

About | FAQ | Contact