Manufacturers, Reward Integrators With Guaranteed Registration Payout

Author: Brian Karas, Published on Jun 23, 2016

Project registration is broken.

And it hurts both manufacturers, who could win more deals, and integrators who have great local strengths.

In this note, we explain why this alternative would work better than the traditional model of adding percentage points of discounts only if the integrator wins.

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Comments (35)

Undisclosed Integrator #1

06/23/16 02:51pm

** ******* **** ********** ** *** ************* **** *** ******* information. ** ** **** **** *** ****** ** ****** ** much ** **** ***, *** ** ** * ********, *** 5-10 ***** **** *** **** **** *** *** ********* *********** or ********, **** **** *** ** ** ******* *** ******* directly...just **** ***** ***** ******** ********* *** ******* **** **** dmvs *** ******* *** ** *** ** ******** ******** **** they ********* **** *** ** ** ******* *** *** ** its ******* ********.

**** **** *** *******.

Undisclosed Distributor #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 06/23/16 03:25pm

** *** ************ *** ** ***** ******* * *** ** "protect" *** ******** **** *** *** **** ******* *** *********** I ********** *** **** *** *** ***-**** ****. **** **** can **** ** ******* ******** ******* * ************ *** *** the **** ****** **** **** ** ******* ** ******* *** original ******* ** *** ****** **** *** **** ******** ** no ******** ** *** (******* *** ******* ** ********).

*** ** ** **** **** ** ***** ******** *** *** designed ** ***** *** ********** ** *** ***** * ***** agree ** ** ********** ** *** **** *** **** ***-**** data.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 06/23/16 03:47pm

**** ****** ***********? **'* * **** ****** *** ***** *** to ** **** *******/******* ** *** ****** ************. *********** *** manufacturers *** ********* ********. * ****** ************ ** ******** *** continuity ** *** ***** ******* ** ****** ***.

Undisclosed Integrator #1

06/23/16 04:07pm

***...** ****** *********** ***** * ******* * **** ***** ** my ******* ** **** ** *****.

* ******* *** ** **** * ************ ** **** **** stunt ** * ********** *********...* ************ ****** ** **** ** my *********** *** *** ****** * *** ***. ************ *** skipped *** ****, **** ******** ** ******, ****** **** "** no **, * **** ** ******** **** ***".

**** *** *** ******* ************* *** **** ** ***** ****** for **** ******* ***********...*** ***** *** ******* *** ***** ****** and **** ** ****** ****** ****.

********* ** *** *****- *** **** ********* ****** ** ****...************* dont **** ***** *** ***********, ********** *********...******* ** *** ***** direct, *** ******* ***** *** ******* ****, *** ******* ***** games, ** ****** **** **** ** "*** * **** ******" Hillary, ******* ** ***** **** *** **** * *** *** money **** **** ** ***** **** **** ******** *** ******** around *** ***********.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1 | 06/23/16 04:16pm

* *** ******** ** **** ********* ** ** *** "*******" statement. "***'* ***** *** **** *** **** *** *********."

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3 | 06/23/16 04:18pm

**, ***'* ** ******* ******.

Undisclosed Integrator #4

06/23/16 04:23pm

**** ******* **** ********** ***** ************ *********** *** *** *** user *********** *** ***** ***** ****** * ****** ***** * just ******* ********** ***********. **** *** ** ***** **** ** customer * **** ********* *** ******* ************ ******. ** ****** there *** * *** **** **** ******* *** ****** *** this ** *** *** ** ******** ************/*********** ********.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | 06/23/16 06:56pm

**** *** ***** ** ***, *********** *** ******* * ********** for *** ********** ******, ***** ************* ******** ****** ****** ***.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Brian Karas | 06/23/16 07:06pm

***-*****, **** *** ** *******, * ******* ***** ****** *** guaranteed ***, ** ** ***** *** ****** **** ******* ** invest **** **** *** ********.

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Gert Molkens

IPVMU Certified | 06/23/16 07:34pm

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Matthew Netardus

IPVMU Certified | 06/24/16 01:56am

** **** ********** **** * *** ** *** ******** ****, but **** **** **** * ******** **** ** ************* **** it'd **** * *** ** *** ***** *****'* ****** ** (I'd ***** **** ** ** ****** ********* ** *** *** in **** ****).

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

06/24/16 02:01am

***** **** ** ** *** ************ *********** ** ********** ************ to ************ **** ** ******* ****** ** ** ********* ********.

*** *** ******** ****** ***** ** *** ** ****** ** existing ************ *** ****** **** **** * ***/** ******.

***** **** *** **** ****** ****** ** ****** **** ********* can't ******** ****** **** ******* ******* *** ****** **** ******* information.

Undisclosed #6

06/24/16 07:15am

** * ************ * ***'* ***** ******* ************ ** ****, but * ** ***** *** ***** ** "************" ***** ** be ******. *** ***** **** ** * ************ *****, ** maybe ** ********** *****. * ****** ***'* ****.

**** * ** **** ** * ***** ********* *** *********** over ******. *** ****** **** **** ** * *** *** the ***** ***. ** ***** ***, * **** ***** **** that ** *****. **** ****.

*** ******* *********** ******* ***** ** ** ***********. *** ****** can *** *****. *** *******- * *** **** **** **** one ****** ***** ** *** **** ******* *** ******* *** didn't ***** **** **** **** ** ***** *** ******** ******* product, * ******** ** ** * ******.

*** *** *** ********** ******** ** *** ******* ** ** info *** ** ***** ** *** ******. * **** ** admit * ******* *** ****. ***** ***** ************* *** **** organized **** * **** *** **** *** ***** *** * have ***, ****** *** ** **** ******* **- ** *** are **** **** ********* ** ********** *** * ******** **** together ** ** ***** *** **** ****. ** ******* ** fairly ***** *** **'* *** ** *** ** ** ***** down ******* ********.

Undisclosed Integrator #7

06/26/16 06:19pm

* ***'* **** *** ********** ****** ****** ** **** ***** simply **** "****" **** *********** * *** ** ******** *** project, ******* ****** ******* ** ***** *** ********. * *** some ************ *********** *** "*******" **** ******** *************, ****** *** the ******* ** ******* *** ******* ** ********** *******, ** matter *** **** *** *******.

**** **** "****" **** ******** **** ***'* **** ** **** homes *** ****** *** *** ******, **** ** *** *** listing. **** *** **** *** **** *****, **** *** **** commission, ******* *** *********** ****/******. **** *** ** *** ********* rather **** *** ****, *** ** **** ******.

*** ***** ***** ** ******* ************, ****** **** ************** *** ************ *** *** ***************. ** *** **** **** burned ** ***** **** ** ************* ***/** ***** *** ***** who ******* ** ****** ** ****** ** ***** ******* *********** with ***** *********** *** ** ****, ** ***'* ** ******** with **** *******, ******!

****** ***** ** **** **** ***** *** *** * ** sure ****** ***** ** ***** ****!

********** * ******, *********** *** ******* ************ **** * ************ can ** * **** ******* *** **** *** ********** *** the ************.

********** ******** ** ******* ************ *** ** ** ****** *** additional ********* **** ** *** ******* *********, *** ******** *********, engineering *** ***** ******* ****** *** ***** *** ****.

** *** *** *******, ******* ************* **** ************* **** *********** sales *** ** ****, *********** ******* *** *** **** ****** to ** ** * ******** ** ****** ******* ******** ******, because ********* ******** *** ***********.

** ***** *** ************* **** ****** ************* *** ***** **** they ******* *** ***** ***** ************ **** **!

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 06/26/16 06:37pm

* *** **** ************ *********** *** "*******" **** ******** *************, solely *** *** ******* ** ******* *** ******* ** ********** payouts, ** ****** *** **** *** *******.

*** ***** **** ** ************* **? ** "**********" ***** ******* but *********** ******* ******** ***** *********** ** ***** **** **********, no?

Undisclosed Integrator #7

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 06/26/16 07:31pm

*** ***** **** ** ************* **? ** "**********" ***** ******* but *********** ******* ******** ***** *********** ** ***** **** **********, no?

**!*********** ******** ****** *** *** ******* ********* ********** ******* ***'* lead **********. ** *****, *** **** ********* *************. *****, * emphasize *** ********** ** **-*********** ******* *** ********* ******* *** Manufacturer *** *** **********

** ** ************* ** *** **** ******* ********** *** ** legitimately ****** ** *** *** ******** **** * ********** ************'* technology *** ********.

** ** ************* ** *** ************ *** ** ****** ** give ***** ******** * *********** **** *** *** **** ***** everyone/anyone * ****** *** *********** * *******.

**** ************* * **** **** *********** *** **** **** ***** business, **** ***** *****, ****** *** ****** ******* *************, ********** and ************ ** *** ***********.

********* ******** ** ******* ************, ******* **** *** ********** *********, rebates ** ******* ****** ** * ****** *** * ***, not *** ********** ** **** ************ ****.

**** ******* *** ***, **** **** ** ******** **, ** my ****** *******, ******!

**** ** *** **** ******** ****** ** **** ****, *** let ** ******* **** *** ***** *****-***** *************** *** ** will *** *** ********, **** ** *** ****.

** ***** ** ****** ********** ** **** ***&%$@** *** *** ******** *** **** **** ********** *** * $5000 ********** ************ ******.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 06/26/16 08:45pm

**** ******* *** ***, **** **** ** ******** **, ** my ****** *******, ******!

*** ****** *** ***. *** **** ** **** *** *** customer **, **** *** ***** ** *** ******* **, ***** products *** ** ** ****, *** *** *** ****** ***.

*** **** ** ****** ****** ****.

*****'* **** **** * ***** ** *** ************? *** *** integrators **** ****** ****, ****** **** *********** ***** ** ****.

****** *** ********, ********* ******'* ** ******** *** ********** ********.

**** *****'* ******** *** ************ ************ ** *** ******* ****** come ****** ********** **** ****** *********** ******.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7 | 06/27/16 03:57pm

* ***'* **** *** ********** ****** ****** ** **** ***** simply **** "****" **** *********** * *** ** ******** *** project, ******* ****** ******* ** ***** *** ********. * *** some ************ *********** *** "*******" **** ******** *************, ****** *** the ******* ** ******* *** ******* ** ********** *******, ** matter *** **** *** *******.

* ********** **** *******, ******* **** *********** ******* ************, *** deal ***** **** ** **** **** ***** ******** ****** *** regional ******* ***** ******** *** ******* ** *** ******.

*********, ** ********** ****** (**, ****** *** ** **** **) just ******** * ***** ** ******** ** ********* **** ******* information.

** ******* ************* **** **** **** *********** ***** ******** ********** as * *******, **** ** *** * "****" *-**% ********, but ** **** **** **** *** ******.

** *** **** * **** **** ******** ***** ***** ** integrator ** **** ** ******** * *******, *** ** ***** initial ******* **** *** ********, *** **** ***** *** ** the ***** ***. ** ***** ***** *********** *** *********** ****** away **** ******* *** *************, *** * ** *** ***** that **** ** * "*******" ************ ******.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Brian Karas | 06/27/16 04:08pm

****** ******* ***********.

***** ******** *** *******, ****** *** **** *****, *** ******** Product ** ******?

Undisclosed #8

06/27/16 07:15pm

**** ***** *** * *** * ***** ***** ** *** sales. ** *** * ***** *** **** ***** ** **** to ** *** ***** ** ********* ******* ** ****** ***** customer **** **** ** *** ***. ** *******, ** *** entitled ** **% ** *** ********** ******* ** *** *** structure ****** ****** *** *******. *** * ******, ** *** our ****** *** ***** ******, ******* *** ***** ******** ******** with *** **** ** * ******** *****.

** * ******** ****, ** ********** **** ****** ******* ** the **** *** ***** ** **** * ******* **** **** only ** **** **** *** ** ******* **** ** ** the **** ****. ***** ** *** ***** ** ****** ********* of *** ******* ** *****, ** ***** *** **** ** the ***** ***** *** ********* ** *** *******. ***** * year ** *** ***** **** *** *******, **********...

****** * ****** *** ******* ************ ********** ** *** **** the ******* ******* ** ** ******* ** ** ******* *****.

**** *******: * ***'* ***** ******* ************ ****** *** ****** has * ********** ****, ** ***** **** * **** ** my **** ** ******* ****.

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 06/27/16 07:24pm

** * ******** ****, ** ********** **** ****** ******* ** the **** *** ***** ** **** * ******* **** **** only ** **** **** *** ** ******* **** ** ** the **** ****. ***** ** *** ***** ** ****** ********* of *** ******* ** *****, ** ***** *** **** ** the ***** ***** *** ********* ** *** *******.

***, **** ** ****** ******* *** ******** ********.

****'* ******* ** *** ****** ********* ** *** ***** *** marketing ****** ******* ******** ** *** *** ****** ** **** thru *** **** ** ***** ****.

*** ** *** *** * ********, ** ** *** ******* the ********* ** ** *** *** *******, ********* **** *** never **** ****** **** *** **** *********, *** **** ********* to **** **** ***, ***** ****** **** *** * ******* compensating *** ****?

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 06/27/16 08:01pm

* ***'* ******* * ****** ****** ***** * **** *********, I ****** **** ** ** * ****** ******* ** ******* the ***********. * **** ****** ** ***** ******* **** **** hard ** ******* *** *******, *** ** **** * **** hard *** **** ** ****.

****** ** *** ********, ** ****'* ***** ** *** *******, not ***... *** ** **** **, * ***** ***** ** against *** * ****** **** *** **** ** ***. ** you ***'* **** **** ** ******/***** *** ***********, ****** ***'* ask ** *** ************ ******.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 06/27/16 08:09pm

** *** ***** *** * ********** $*** ** **** **** products **** ***** *** **** *******, ***** ***?

Undisclosed #9

In reply to Brian Karas | 06/27/16 09:14pm

**** ********** ****** ** ********

*****?

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #9 | 06/27/16 09:24pm

***, *** ***** **** ** ** **** ***.

Undisclosed #8

06/27/16 08:32pm

***** ****** ** **, ** $*** ***** ****** *** ****** on **** ***** ********. *'* *** *** **** ******* ************* that ********* *** *************, *** ****** ** ******** ******* *** mentioned ** **** ** * ************ **** ****** ***** * existing *********** ***** **** *** ***.

*********** *** ******* **** ** *** *** **** ** **** up **** * ******** **** **** ***** *** ***** ** the *** ****. ************* ****** *** ********** ** **** ****** like ********** ** **, ** ***** * **** ** **** of.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 06/27/16 08:46pm

* ***** **** "**********" *** "**** ***** *******" ** *** often ** ********, *'* ******** ***** ****** ********, ********* ***** the ******** ** ***** ** ***** * *** ** *****, and **** ****** *** ******** ** * ********** ** ****** them.

*'* *** *** **** ******* ************* **** ********* *** *************, but ****** ** ******** ******* *** ********* ** **** ** a ************ **** ****** ***** * ******** *********** ***** **** the ***.

******, ****** * ** *** ***** ****** **** ** **** implied ****.

** *** ** ****** *** **********, * ** ****** ** ask *** *** ***** ***** * **** *** * ****** project. *** ***** ** *** ****** ***** *** * *********, legitimate, *** **** ***** ********** * "******" ** * "**********" or * "**** ********** *******"? ** **** *** ******** *** a **** *********** **** *** ***** *** **** ********* ***, do *** *** ***** ** ** **** ** ********** ****?

Undisclosed #8

06/27/16 09:00pm

*****, *** ***** ** ***** ** * *** ****, *** as **** * **** ****** ** ** ***** ** ******.

** ******** *** **** ** ****** ** ***** **** *** a *** ***********. ****, **** ****** ****** **** * *******, and *** ******* ***. **** ********. **** **** ***********, ************* network ** ****, *** ************ * **** ******* *** ********* project ************ **** ******** *************.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 06/27/16 09:07pm

*** *** *** ****** ******* ************ ** ******** *************, ****** they *** *** ********** ** * ********?

*** *** ****** **** *** **** **** ******* ****** *** same ******* ** **** *** ******* (*** *******), *** ***** only *** ** ***** *** ******* ***** ******** *** ** getting **** ** *** **********?

Undisclosed #8

In reply to Brian Karas | 06/27/16 09:22pm

***, * **** **** * ********** *** *** ******** *** same ******* **** ******** *************. **** * ********** ****, * severed ** ************ **** ****.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #8 | 06/27/16 09:25pm

**** ***** **** * ******* ** ****** *** ***'** ******** project ************* ****.

Undisclosed #9

In reply to Brian Karas | 06/27/16 09:33pm

***?

********** ****** *** ******** * ******* **** * ********* *************?

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Brian Karas | 06/28/16 12:01am

**** ***** **** **** ***** *** ******/** ******, * **** 'n ***** **. ******, *.*. ***** **** *** ******* *** a ******** ***** **** ******** *******?

** * ******* ***** *** ***** ** ******* **** **** mfrs *** ******* **** *** *** ***** ***** ** **** customer *** *** **** ***** ** ******** *** *** ***********.

** *** **** ***** * ***** **** ******* ****.

Undisclosed #9

In reply to Undisclosed #5 | 06/28/16 12:23am

** * **** *****

* ***** *** **** ******** ****

*** ****** ***** :)

Undisclosed #5

In reply to Undisclosed #9 | 06/28/16 02:22am

*** ***'* **** ** **** **** ******** **** *** "*******" a ****** ****** **** **** ****** ***** *******...

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