Genetec CEO Declares "We Don't Negotiate Payment With Patent Trolls"

By Joey Walter, Published Aug 11, 2020, 11:38am EDT (Info+)

Are patent trolls like terrorists? Genetec's CEO is coming out strongly against 'patent trolls' celebrating a legal win.

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Will the latest result and public statement deter patent claims against Genetec going forward? Will it have any impact on the prevalence of these lawsuits within the industry?

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Comments (17)

While fighting it is awesome and the right thing to do it’s not without peril. Several years ago, 3VR had a patent troll go so far as to send notices to some of their end users. The troll found out who the end users were by way of white papers and press releases. I know because my company was named and our legal department contacted. It’s awkward as an end user to get called into a meeting by your legal department and asked why the hardware your using is at issue. 3VR was quick to step in and get the troll off our back.

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Yup! That was the lovely outfit.

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Genetec is a competitor that I have great respect for. I wish them much success against patent trolls and their refusal to work with products under the NDAA ban.

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I think the statements in this release were a very clear and very public shot across JCI's bow.

I could be wrong, but my sense is that Pierre has just enough piss and vinegar in him to use this to send a message.

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I respect Genetec for showing dedication to a principled conviction.

This inspires confidence that Genetec leadership is invested in the long term success of the company. Genetec could've written a check 23 months ago to make it go away quickly. My expectation is it will take a long time to successfully defend enough cases to effectively deter unwarranted patent trolling against Genetec.

I've worked for companies that capitulated high probability wins just to "get it off the books this year", all while openly admitting that doing so will encourage more of the same lawsuits.

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So the patent troll paid to make the case go away? That is the exact opposite of how this is supposed to work. What is the next step for a "manufacturer" after patent trolling fails?

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Color me impressed. If more followed in Genetec’s shoes the patent troll problem would shrivel up.

Just ransomware in another form.

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And that is called paying the Dane-geld;But we've proved it again and again,That if once you have paid him the Dane-geldYou never get rid of the Dane.

I know he's not very popular anymore, but Rudyard Kipling was a pretty sharp observer of the human condition.

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This is true.

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I'm sure UD#5 meant no offense about getting rid of Danes...

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paying the Dane-geld

I had to look up what Dane-geld was, for others, per Wikipedia:

The Danegeld (/ˈdeɪnɡɛld/;[1] "Danish tax", literally "Dane yield" or tribute) was a tax raised to pay tribute to the Viking raiders to save a land from being ravaged. It was called the geld or gafol in eleventh-century sources. It was characteristic of royal policy in both England and Francia during the ninth through eleventh centuries, collected both as tributary, to buy off the attackers, and as stipendiary, to pay the defensive forces. The term Danegeld did not appear until the late eleventh century. In Anglo-Saxon England tribute payments to the Danes was known as gafol and the levy raised to support the standing army, for the defense of the realm, was known as heregeld (army-tax).

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Tom Cruise also does not negotiate with terrorists, NSFW:

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A patent is only as good as the patent writer. Hopefully Genetec has a good one.

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I guess the hope is that Kiwi had a good writer right?

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I had dealings with Axcess about 16 years ago when we installed some of their equipment at a customer site and I was in their offices numerous times. Everything at that time seemed to be about getting sales figures up so that they could have an IPO. I received calls from the sales guy at the end of every month and quarter frantic for orders. They actually had a pretty decent rfid product. I still have one of their camera ip convertor units in my drawer that is probably 18 to 20 years old. They were one of the first companies that I am aware of that that had an ip video type of offering.

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I've dealt with trolls and am a multiple-patent holder myself. Often, the trolls see a TLA that is similar and then try to make a claim. Genetec is making a global statement that "won't pay" to make it go away--- nuisance. If it was a merited infringement case it wouldn't have gone to court...just a licensing deal or something.

Just keep in mind, that nuisance claims and legal filings can hose up funding and M&A activity...

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