Flock Warns Custom Hot Lists Are Not Probable Cause

Published Jan 10, 2024 14:01 PM

Highlighting the risk of misusing custom LPR hot lists, Flock Safety has cautioned law enforcement against making arrests exclusively based on appearing on one of those lists.

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The disclaimer, advising that custom hot lists "alone" should not be used as "probable cause," appeared in an August 2023 Flock user guide obtained by IPVM.

Background

In this report, we examine the language in the user guide, Flock's new feedback to IPVM, and how it relates to Flock's past stance against giving law enforcement agencies legal guidance.

Executive *******

*** *******'* ********** ***** ****** *** lists *** ******** ***** ** *******, given **** *** ******* *** ********** stated **** ** **** "*** ******* any ***** ******** ** *** *********." Flock *************** **** **** *** ******* does *** ******* "***** ******," ***** it ******* ** "***** ******* ******* to * ******," *** **** ** does ******* "***** ***********."

****** *** *****, ****** ******** **** the******** ***** *********** ****** (****)*** ***** ********** *********, *** ** compiled ************* ** ***** *** ****** widely **** *** ***********. *** ******* has ***** ******** **** ***** ********* advocates,**** ** *** ****, **** *** ******** ** ** leading ** ****** *** ******** *******.

*** ******* ** **** ** *** center *** ******* ******* *** ********* ** **** *** *** ****** he *** ****** **** *** ******** by ****** ***** ***** ****** ** a ****** *** **** ** *******. The ******* **** ******** ** ******** 25, ****, ***** *** ****** ****** the **** ***** *** ********.

*** ***** ********** ******** *** *********** that ****** *** ***** ****** *** be **** ***** ** ******** ***** is *******, ***** **** *** ******* has ******** **** ** ***** ** legal ************** *** *** *** ******** are ****. ** *** **** ***'* case, *** ********,***** *** ********** *** **** ******** ** *** plaintiff "** *** ************ ** *****."

*******,* ********* *** ***** ********** **** IPVM**** ***** ************** **** *** ** employ *** ******** *** **** ** to *** *********** ****** *********. "*** law *********** ******** ********* ***** *** is ******* ***** ******** *** ***** city ********," *** ************ ********** ****.

*** ********** ***** **** ***** ******** more ***** *********** ** ********* ***** using *** ******** **** ** ********** indicated. ** ********* **** ** ***** as * ******** *** ***** ***********, that ***** ****** *** ******* ** liability ** *** *************, ** ***** rather *****, **** ** *** *** of *** ******** ******* ********** ** women **** ****-******** ****** *** **** lawful ********* ** ***** ******.

Language ** **** *****

*** ********** ******* ** * ******* of *** ***** ****** "**** **** Practices *** *** ***********," ***** ******** topics **** ** ****** *********, ****** tools, ********* ******** *** *****, *** receiving ****** **** *** *****. *** guide ***** **** "********* ** *** way **** ************* *** *** ** your *******, *** ***** *** ************* from *** ********* *******."

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*** ***** **** ******** * ******* section ** ****** *** ***** ************, explaining **** *** ******* *** ******* to "**********" **** ****** ******* **** because ******* ** ******* ***** **** to **** ****** *** *******.

*** ***** ******:

Create * ****** *** **** to add these stolen vehicles and stolen license plates to *** ****** you **** ******* ***********. You can set the expiration date for the same day you are listing the vehicle so that when it expires, it will already be listed on NCIC. [Emphasis Added.]

***** **** ************ ***** *** ***** reasons *** ***** *** **** ** create *** ***** ****** *** *****, such ** **** ***** ** * "suspect ******* ******** ** ** *************." It **** ******** *** ** ***** the ****** *** *****, ********** **** users **** ******* **** **** ******** the **** *** *** ** ** shared ****.

Share *** ****** *** **** by clicking on the ellipsis on the far right of your custom hot list, selecting share, and selecting *** ****** **** ***** *** ***** **** ** *****. [Emphasis Added.]

*** **** ****** ***** ******* ** the ***** ** *** ****** *** list **********, ***** ******* ** * screenshot ** *** **** *********. ** states "**********: ****** *** ***** ***** should ***** ** **** ** ******** cause."

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Flock's ******** ** **********

**** ***** ***** *** ********** *** why ** *** ******** ** *** guide, ******* **************** ********** ****: "***** ******** **** ********** to *** ** ******* ******** ****** hot ***** *** *** **** *** be **** *** ************* ********."

***** ******* ** ********** * "*****" in *** *******'* ******** ** ********* customers **** "***** ******," ****** **** IPVM:

*****has *** ******* *** ****** ** ********* *** ********* **** ***** ******. Flock customers should always consult with their own counsel on matters including determining how they want to handle data sharing, interpreting local laws, etc.The disclaimer on Flock's platform does *** ******* ** ***** ******; we are merely *********** *** *********:Custom Hotlists are subjective given that they are created based on investigative leads. Further, due the subjective ****** ** ****** ********, they must be coupled with other evidence and investigative tools in order to qualify as probable cause, as we understand it; however, we alwaysadvise *** *********, **** ******* ** *** ***** ******, **** **** **** ** ******* ***** *** *******. Lastly, Flock has no insight or control into Custom Hotlists. [Emphasis Added]

Past ********* ** ***** ********

**** ******* *********** **** *** *** of ***, ***** ******* ******* *** ability ** *** *********** ** ***** people's ******** ********** *** ****** ******, the ******* *** ********** ********** ** IPVM **** *** *********, *** **, are ******* *********** *** *** *** products *** ****.

** * ******** **** ********* ********* *************** ** * ********** law *********** ***-**-***** ******* ** *** data,***** ********* **** ********** **:

*** **** ** **** ***** *** enforcement ****** ****** ****** **** *** laws **** **** *** ******* ** socially ******** ** ** **. *******, Flock ****** ********** ** ******** *** agencies, *** *** ****** **** ***** laws.How *** *********** ******** ********* ***** *** ** ******* ***** ******** *** ***** **** ********.

***** ****** *** ***** ***** ** help ******** *** ***** ********** **** civil ********* ********, ********* ******* **** retention; ********* ****** ************ ******* *** providing * ********* ***** *** ** those ********; *** ***** ****** *********** technology; *** ***** *****.We ** *** ******* *** ***** ******** ** *** *********. [Emphasis Added.]

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Guidance **. *********** **. ******

**** ******* ***** *** *********** ******* the ******* ** *** ********** *** "legal ******," *** ***** *************** **** IPVM:

***** ** * ********** *******legal ****** *** ***** ***********. Our disclaimer falls under *** ******. According to the ******** ******** ******: “***** *********** ******* *********** **** pertains ** *** ******* *********** ** the ***. *******, ***** ****** ** legal ******* ******* ** * ******. It ** ** **** **** * specific **** *** ******* *** ***** liberties *** *********** ** *** ****** it *********.” ******** ******** *********** **** *** ******* ******the ********** ******* ***** *********** ** “*********,” ***** ************** ***** ****** ** “**********.”

** ********** ******, *****’* ********** **making ** ************* ********* regarding the use of Custom Hotlists. There is no attorney-client relationship and Flock is not providing legal advice. [Emphasis Added.]

*** ******* *************** *** *** ***** when ***** ******* *** ****** "***** guidance" *** *********** ** ***** ** either "***** ******" ** "***** ***********." Thomas **** ****: "** ***** ********** mentioned, *****'* ****** ******* ********** **** what ** ****** ** ******."

Custom *** **** ***********

****** *** ***** *** ** ******* by "*** *********** ******** *** ******** teams" *** *** ********** ************ *** neighborhood ****** **** *** *****, *** company *************** **** ****. ******** ***** include "********-******* ******** *********, **** ** security ********* ** * ******** ** school, *** ********, *** *** *********** ***, * law *********** ******," ****** ****.

** *** **** ******* **** ** alleged ****** *** **** *****, ********* Michael ***** ******* **** ** *** not **** **** **** ** ***** user ***** *** ** * ****, such ** ******* ** *** * police *******, * ******* **********, ** any **** ** ***. ***** *** pulled **** ** ****** ** ******* Township, ****, ** ******** ****. ** alert *** ****** ** *** ***** system ******* ****** *** ** * "suspect" ** *** **** ** * missing ********,********* ** *** *********.

***** ******* *** ***** ******, ***** read *** *****, "*********** *** ************ false *** ********** *********** ***** *** plaintiff ******* *****," *** ** *** "never ** *** *** **** **** Cleveland *** *** ***, *** **** two ******* ****** ** *** ***** as ******** *********** *** ***** **** put *** ********* ** *** ********* hot **** ** ** *******."

***** *** ****** *********, ********* "'*** and *** ********* **********, *********, ** relating ** *** ****** *** ***** of *** ***** ********;' '*** *** all ****** ****' ******** ** ***** hot *****; ******** **** *** ***** hosted ** ******* ** ***** ***** 2020; *** *****'* ******* ******** ****," the******* **** ** * ****** ******.***** *** **** *** ******** ****** as ******** *** **** ** ** not ****** *** *** **** ****** to ***** ** *** ******* ****. It *** ***** * ***** ** dismiss *** *******.

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*** *******'* ******** ** *** ***** lawsuit ** *** ************ *** ********** to ******** *** ******* ** **** it ******* *********** *** ********* ***** or ******** *** ********.

****** ************ ***** *********** ** ********* about ****** *** ***** *** ******** cause *** ******** *** ********; *******, it *** **** ** ****** *** aggrieved ******* ** ***** *** ******* is ****** *** ****** ** ******** that ******** ** ***** ******.

Comments (10)
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Undisclosed #1
Jan 10, 2024

***** ***** ****** *** ***** *** Not ******** *****

**'* *********** **** ***** ***** **** 'disclaimer' ****** ***** *** ***** ******* was *****.

*******, * ***** **'* * ******* to ******* **** *** *******-******** ********** can ** ********* ** ***** ********. instead, * ***** *** ********** ** simple ********* *******-******** ** ***** *********** liability ** *** ***** *******.

***..... ****'* * ******* **** ****'* addressed ** **** *******:

******** ***** ******** ***** ***** *** *********** ** traffic *****.

********** ***********.

*** ***** ***'* ***** * ********** that **** ******* ***** **** *** not **** ********** ********* - ******* their **** ******* ***** *********** ** based ** ** ************ ****.

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JH
John Honovich
Jan 10, 2024
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******** ***** ******** ***** ***** *** *********** ** traffic *****.

********** ***********.

*** ******, *** *******,********** ********* - *********

Reasonable *********** ****** ******** ** ************* ****** ******* ** **** ************ *****, *** ***** ******** *********************, *** **** **** ** "******** and **************** ********* ** '*****'";[*]** **** ** ***** ** "******** and *********** *****", "***** ******** **** rational ********** **** ***** *****",[*]*** *** ********* **** ** ********** with *** ******** **********.

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Brian Karas
Jan 11, 2024
Pelican Zero

**'* *********** **** ***** ***** **** 'disclaimer' ****** ***** *** ***** ******* was *****.

* ***'* ***** **'* *********** ** all. ********* *********** ****** ********* *** product ***** ******** ***** ** ****-***** feedback. **** *****, ** **, **** a ******** ******* ** "*** *****, a ***** **** **** ******* ** be ** * ****** ******* ***'* a **** ****** *** * ****".

**** *** **** ******** ** ****, I ***'* ***** ****** ****** ** surprised **** ***** **** **** ***** to ****** ****** *** ** **** utilize ***** ********. * ***** **** their ************** ** **** ** *** being ***** ******, ************ ** **** are ******** ** *** **** ** the ****** *** ***** *******/**** ** a **** ****** *** * ******** cause ****.

** ***** *** **** ********* **** "ensure *** **** ** ***** * other ***** ******** ***** ********* ****** using ****** *** **** **** *** a ****" **** ***** ** **** like ***** ******, ***.

U
Undisclosed #1
Jan 12, 2024

* ***'* ***** **'* *********** ** all. ********* *********** ****** ********* *** product ***** ******** ***** ** ****-***** feedback.

'****** *********' ****** **** **** ******* had * ******* ** ***** **** they've ***** ******* - ***** ** not *** **** ** ***************** *******.

**** ** *********** (** **) ** that **** ***** **** *** ********** months ***** *** *******.... ***** (** me) *** *** ********** ** *********** admitting ** ***** ******* ********* ** the **** *******.

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Brian Karas
Jan 12, 2024
Pelican Zero

** ******** *** ********* * **** meant *** ********* ******* **** ********* go ******* ** ***** ** ****** feedback. *** *********** (***** *** ********* from ***** ******) *** **** ** this *******, ***. ** *** *** people ***** **** ******* **** *****, or ******* *** ***********, *** **** to *** ** ***** **** ******** in *** ***** *********. "********* ***** driver ** ****** ******" "** *** drive **** *** **********", ***.

***** (** **) *** *** ********** of *********** ********* ** ***** ******* liability ** *** **** *******

***** * ********** **** **************, ** interpretation ** **** **** **** ** a "****** ***'* *** ****" **** of *******.

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Undisclosed #1
Jan 12, 2024

**** ******. *** * ***** **** "please ***'* *** ****" ******** *** generally ****** ***** ******* ************ ******* to ******** *** *** ****. *.*. the ********** ****** ****'* ********* **** the **** ***** ******** ***** ******, but ******** ***.

*** *** ***** ********** ***'* ***** the **** ****** - ***.

******** *** ********* ******** ****** ********** suspicion - ***** ** **** * think *** ** ******** ** **** lawsuit **** *** **** *** ******* plate *** ***** ****.

**** ***** ***** ****** ** ** eyewitness **** *** **** * *********** of * ******* ******* *** **** they *** ******* *** ********* *** description *** ******* **** ***** ** that.

*** ** ******, ** ***** ******** cause - ***** ** **** * think ***** ****** **** ********** ***... to ****** ********** ** *** ******* lawsuit.

**'* ***** **** *** **** *****, but ****** **** (** **) **** a '** ****'* **' *****.

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Brian Karas
Jan 12, 2024
Pelican Zero

******** *** ********* ******** ****** ********** suspicion - ***** ** **** * think *** ** ******** ** **** lawsuit **** *** **** *** ******* plate *** ***** ****.

*****, *** *** ****** *** ***** are ********** ******-******* ****. **'* * reciprocal ********. *** ***** *** ** the *** ****, ** ** ****** stop ****. *** *** *** ***** on *** *** ****? *** **** entity **** ** ***** ** *** reasonable *****.

**** ** "***'* *** ****" ******* the ******* ** "***'* **** * vehicle ** * ******* **** *** yourself ******* ******* ********** *****".

* ********* **** ** **** ** the ***** ***** *** ***** ***** the ****** ** ****** ****, *** it ** ***** *********** *********** ****, or ********** ****, *** ** ****** not ** *** **** ************* *** reasonable ***** (** * ** ************* the ***** *****).

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Donald Maye
Jan 12, 2024

*****, *** *** ****** *** ***** are ********** ******-******* ****. **'* * reciprocal ********. *** ***** *** ** the *** ****, ** ** ****** stop ****.

** ** ***** ****** *** ******* can **** ****** *****.

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Undisclosed #1
Jan 12, 2024

****** ****** - *** *** *******

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Brad Silvernail
Jan 15, 2024

** *** * ***** ******** ******** Integrator. ***** *** * ****** ****** installed-base **** *** **** ***** *********. We ***** ** *** ******** * pretty **** ******** ****** ******* **** LPR. ***, ** ***** ***** **** the ***** *** ***** *** ***.

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