FLIR FX Tested

Author: Derek Ward, Published on Apr 08, 2015

FLIR is going after the home / consumer surveillance market with their FLIR FX. A few of the notable competitive features offered:

  • Video analytics for search (RapidRecap)
  • Built-in Battery
  • Built-In Storage
  • Outdoor housing

Dropcam, now a Google/Nest division, is certainly the big name now in this market. IPVM has also tested Samsung, Simplicam and D-Link's home offering.

How does FLIR FX compare?

We tested Dropcam and FLIR FX head to head to better understand the tradeoffs. Below is a preview from the two side by side:

 

Our report answers:

  • How well does the included SD card storage work?
  • How effective is FLIR's video analytics?
  • Who has better image quality?
  • For the features provided, how does pricing / value compare?

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Comments (11)

I've been anxiously awaiting this review for hours. But, alas, no mention of "FBI-level" tech. Tough crowd.

For those wondering, fluff tech site Mashable, exclaimed, "It’s actually FBI-grade surveillance technology squeezed onto a mobile device thanks to FLIR."

The FBI reference is in a lot of FLIR coverage leading me to believe that was in FLIR's PR packet.

The bigger question is how useful Briefcam is to home users. It's definitely neat but I am not sure how much more useful it is than simply scanning through a Dropcam timeline for motion events especially since you need to request and wait for the Briefcam synopsis (aka RapidRecaps to be generated).

I'm very curious about the time-lag to briefcamify video as well.

They could call it NSA-grade technology, but that would probably freak people out having a camera in your house that is pushing data up to the Internet...

It's a neat camera for the money, but the FBI should also be a little offended at that comment :)

The irony is this is a "FLIR" camera with slightly lesser low-light performance than Dropcamp. Thus my thought it has more of Lorex legacy than FLIR.

Now, if it was a thermal camera maybe the FBI-level moniker would make more sense..

Well, they both probably are using consumer grade (non FBI level) IR LEDs...

This camera is not FLIR but LOREX branding by FLIR. The support is redirected to LOREX.

  • I submit a pre-sale ticket to LOREX, 3 days to answer. The answer was not an answer ...
  • I send a tweet to FLIR no answer
  • I contact the FLIR French sales guy, It tells me he do not handle Flir FX ...

On Amazon.com the "1 star" are very bad. It seems there is many issues with cloud server. The cloud server is AWS (cheap but weak)

Your review seems to say it is better than NestCam. So I don't know what camera should I use for cheap simple cloud upload of motion alert as europeen startup.

Does the FLIR FX support RTSP?

No it only detect motion and store files on the SD then to AWS

No RTSP, no ONVIF. When we tested this there was talk from FLIR of maybe supporting ONVIF in the future but no dice so far.

Jean-Philippe Encausse, thank you for your interest in the FX product.

We have a sales contact in France, Franck Carette who can be reached via email at Franck.Carette@flir.fr. He should be able to assist you.

FLIR FX has telephone tech support and the number is found at: https://fx.flir.com/support/contactUs.jsp, customers who purchase FX are directed to this web link for support, which is in the warranty paper in the FX box and the toll free number in France for FX support is: 0800-907-428.

On a personal note, I have used my FX on several occasions to monitor our pets when away and to record portions of two weddings from a unique point of view.

Enjoy the product.

Greg Cortina
Director - Western US/Canada Distribution Sales

Thanks Greg and John !

I had the right contact at Flir (France). It seems the merging between all entity of Flir is complicated and they try to improve support and communication.

FLIR FX is a camera of FLIR. LOREX has been bought 2 year ago by FLIR (and still merging)

I might be able to try a FLIR FX for my project it seems to be a good bet.

Thanks again !

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