No 'Fever Detector', FLIR Says 'EST'

By Ethan Ace and John Honovich, Published Apr 27, 2020, 09:56am EDT

While 'fever detectors' or 'fever cameras' are now hotly marketed, FLIR has gone the other way. While FLIR never called these devices by those terms, they have become even more conservative, rejecting even 'EBT', now calling them 'EST'.

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In this note, we examine:

  • The various marketing terms for this thermal technology
  • Why FLIR switched from EBT to EST
  • What the difference between body temperature and skin temperature is
  • What the difference between forehand and inner canthus measurements are
  • The relationship between EST, EBT, fever, and coronavirus
  • The risks of using EST to determine EBT

Marketing *****

******* ********* ****** ***** cameras ** ********* '*****', such **:

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***:

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***:

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** *****, * ****** buster:

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FLIR ******

*******, **** *** ****** even **** ************, ********** to **** **** *** made **** ******, ******:

** **** ******** *** language ** ** ******* ‘skin’ **** ************ ********* what *** ********** ** measuring.

Body ** **** *********** **********

**** *********** ******** ****** 98.6°F / **°*, **** individuals ******* ******** ***** or ******, *** *********** changing ********** *** ***. However, **** *********** ****** widely *** *** ***** from **** ******* ***** to * *** ******* higher, ******** ****** *******.

**** *********** ** ******** by **** *******, *********:

  • *** ** **** ******* temperatures
  • ********* **** ** ********
  • ********* ******** ** ***
  • ******* ***********
  • ******** ** *** **** (humidity ** ************)
  • *** / ******

******* ** ***** *******, using **** *********** ** estimate **** *********** *** risks.

Forehead ** ***** ******* *********** **********

*** ******** ** ****** to ******* **** *** more ****** ** ******** errors, **** *** ***** canthus ** *** ***, which ** ****** ** capture. ***** **** '***** detector' ************* ** ******** based ** *** ******** or ***** ***** ** the ****, * ******* number ** *********, **** as ****, ** ******** of *** ***** *******.

*** ***** ******* ******** a **** ******** ******** of **** **** *********** than ***** ***** ** skin ******* ** ** less ******* ** ************* factors, **** ******* (***** decreases *** ****'* ********** effects), *** **** ***** arteries ***** ********* ***** flow *** **** ********.

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********* *** ******** *** 80601-2-59:2017*** "********* ************ *** human ******* *********** *********" calls *** ***** ******* measurements ****** ****** *** unreliable:

****** ************ ** ******* areasother **** *** ****** ******** ******** ** *** ***** ****** ** **********, and may be complicated by perspiration, facial skin flushed from exertion, etc. The current evidence indicates that the region medially adjacent to the inner canthi is the preferred site for fever screening due to the stability of that measurement site. This is because this region is directly over the internal carotid artery. [emphasis added]

Relationship ******* ***, ***, *****, *** ***********

**** ****** *** **** elevated **** *********** (***) may **** ******** **** temperature (***). **** ** those ****** **** *** may **** * *****. Some ** ***** ****** with * ***** *** have ***********.

***** ***** ** **** path ******* ******* *** two, ***** ** * significant **** ** *****.

Risks ** ***** *** ** ********* ***

****** ******** ********** ***** screening ** ****** ***** are, ** ******, ****** from ************ ************ *** could **** **** ******** in *** ****** ** activities ******** ** ********* their **** ***********, ****** EST * ***** ********** of ***.

********** **** *********** *** low ***** ** **** temperature **** ****** ** missed ********** ** ***** with ****** ******. *******, estimating *** **** **** cause ******** ***** ******, leading ** ********* **** on ********** *****, ******* throughput, *** ********** ******** in *** ********* ****** in *****.

EST **** ******** ***********

***** ***** ******** ** far **** ******** ** a **** *** *** has *** ********* ** help ****** ******, ******** skin *********** ********* ** clearly * *** **** accurate *********** ** **** this ********** ****.

*******, ******* ** *** instead ** '***** *********' may ****** *** ****** for ***** ********, ***** sellers *** *** ****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

04/27/20 02:38pm

* ***** **** ** a **** *********** ** make ******* **** ********. I ******* ******** *** over *** ***** ********* potential ********* *** ** mention **** ******* ******* what ** ***** ********. Props ** **** *** that.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

04/27/20 04:13pm

** ** ********* ** note *** ********** ** capabilities *** **** **** of ******. ***** *** Flir ******** **** *** have * ********* ** partner **** *** ******* camera, **** *** ** more ***********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 04/27/20 04:19pm

**** *** **** * blackbody

**** **** ** *** think ****** ** **** if **** ** *** a *********?

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 04/27/20 06:18pm

******* ** ** **** question ****** ******** *** how **** ********* **** it **** *********** ** call ** *** ****** EST? *** **** *** both ********* *** ******* temperature ** * ****?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 04/29/20 12:00am

***** *** **** ******** does *** **** * blackbody ** ******* **** the ******* ******

****** *** ******* **** point. **** ******** * response ****** **** **** do ******* * ********* but ********* ** *** recommend **, ***** ******** below:

***, *** *** *** FLIR ******* ******* **** black ****** (**) ** part ** ** ******** skin *********** ****** *****. In ****, **** ** our *********** *** ******** are ***** **** ****, taking *** ********** *** then ********** ***** *** software ******** **** **** a ** ** *** reference. *** ******* ** Viper ******* (******** **** *********** *********).

*** ******** ******* **** include *** ********* **** do *** ******* * BB. *** *** ****/**** Smart ******* **** *** configuration **** **** ** camera ********* ****, *** in **** *************, ** not ******* * ** either. *** *** ****/**** Smart ******* ** ******* the *** ** * BB ********* ** ***** want ** *** **** method. ** ** **, you ****** **** ** the ** ********* ** the ****** ******* ********* and ***** *** ****** on *** ** *********. Then **** ********* *********** tool **** *** **** reference.

***** *** **** ********* with ****** *** ****** configuration. ** ******* *** screening **** *** **** distinct **********, *** ** which **’** ****** (*****), but *** ***** **** wish ** *** * BB, ** ******* **** configuration ** ****:

  • ******** ** +/-*.**, ***** meets *** *** *** ISO ****
  • *********** *** ********** ** body ************ ********** *** day, ** ***** *** last *** ******* ******** as *** *********
  • **** *** ******* ******* piece ** ******** ** maintain *** ********* ** the ******.
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IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 04/29/20 12:12am
  • *********** *** ********** ** body ************ ********** *** day, ** ***** *** last *** ******* ******** as *** *********

*'* ******** **** ** for ****** **** ** assumption ** * **** high **** ** *********.

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Tamas Menyhart

04/27/20 05:45pm

* ***** *** ***** "+" **** ** *** canthus, *** * ** not * *****.

*** *** ******* *** solution ******** *** ****, but ** ***** ****.

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Shay Fogel

In reply to Tamas Menyhart | 04/27/20 08:44pm

************ **** :)

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Tamas Menyhart | 04/27/20 08:49pm

*****, ***** ****** ** that? ***** * ****** since **** ** **** you ****.

*** ****** **** ******* to *** ***** ** measure *** ***** ******* unless, ** **** **** shows, *** **** *** take **** ******* ***. However, ***** ** *** recommending ******** *** ****** your ******* ***, *******?

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Tamas Menyhart

In reply to John Honovich | 04/27/20 10:05pm

***, ** ** ***** solution. **** *** ********* stop. *** ***** ** the *********** ****** **** to *** *****. *** for ******* **** ********* video.

*** ** ** ***'* find *** ******* ***** (canthus) ******* *** ****** wear *** *****, ** can ** **** *** other ******* ***** ** the ****. *** ***** camera *** **** *** faces! *********, ** ** suitable *** ********* *********** **** ************* ******* ****** ** the **** ****. :)

* *** ******** ** to ***** **** *** camera ** ******* *** the ******* *** ******** the *********** *****. *** hottest ***** ** *** face ** *** ******* and *** ******* ********** the ******* ***** **** can ** **** ** the ****. *** *** video.

***** ** *** *******? ;)

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 04/28/20 04:25pm

*** **** **** ******* any ** ***** ************ or ****** ********* ***** on ********* ************ ****** or ********** **** *******?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 04/28/20 04:40pm

***, ** **** ******** a **** ** **** ago -**** **** ******* *********** Screening ****** ******

*** ** **** **** more **** ******* ****** in *** **** *** weeks.

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Shay Fogel

04/27/20 08:43pm

**** ****** **** ** the *********** ****** ********* raw ****? ** *** they *********** **** **** sort ** "**"?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Shay Fogel | 04/27/20 08:51pm

*********** ****** ********* *** data? ** *** **** manipulated **** **** **** of "**"?

****, **** ********. **** what ** **** ***** so ***, ** ******* on *** ******. **** is ********* ****** *** temperature **** ***** *** be ****** ** ***** good (***-************) ** *** (no **).

**** *** "**" ** in * ***** ****** is * *** ********. How **** ** *** how ******** ** **** AI?

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Tamas Menyhart

In reply to John Honovich | 04/27/20 10:11pm

***** ** ********* ****, the ** ** *** multiple **** ********* ********.

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Brian Karas

In reply to Shay Fogel | 04/27/20 09:11pm

**** ** ************* * straight ******* ***********. **** a ****, ******* *** temperature.

*** **** **** ***** you ***** *** **** AI ***** ** ** do **** **** ** automated *** ******** ** measure *** ***** ****. But *** *** *** going ** ** ******** useful **** ** ** magically **** "***" **** into "****" ****.

* ***** **** **** of *** ********* ********* the ** ********** ** these ******** *** ***** so ** *** *** make ** **** **** more **** ** ** (which ** * ****** useless *** ** *** and **** ******** ****** in * ***-********** *******).

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 04/27/20 09:44pm

*** **** **** ***** you ***** *** **** AI ***** ** ** do **** **** ** automated *** ******** ** measure *** ***** ****.

******** ****** *************, * would ***** ***** ***** be ************ ***** ** A.I., *** *********** ** the ******** **** *********** of ***, *** ****** in *** **** ***** of ***** ********* ******.

******** **** * ******'* overall ************* ***** ******** a ****** ** ***********, possibly **** ************ ************ that ***** ** ******* to ******* ******** *********.

***** ***, ****, *** i ******'* ******* **.

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Brian Karas

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 04/27/20 10:03pm

******** **** * ******'* overall ************* ***** ******** a ****** ** ***********

**** ***** *** ***** this?

** *** ***** ***** the ***** ** *** body **** *** ********* available *** *********** ** a ****** *** ********* have *** ***** *** the ****/****/****.

***** *** ***** ** be ****** ******* *** fever *********, ***. **** are ***********, *** *** of *** ***** ** the **** ***** *********** (and **** *********** **********) can **** *************.

*** ****/****/**** ** *** much ** * ***** indicator ** ******** **** temp ******, ** ******** on **** ***** *****.

*** **** ** *** body ** ***** ** be ******* (********* ;) ), ** *** *** are ***** ** **** is *** ******* *********** of *** ********, ***** would **** ************ ***** on *** ****** *** clothing ** *******. *** in *** *****, *** clothing ***** ******* *** actual ********** *********** ** one *** ** *******.

*** ** *** **** points *** ******* *** only ******* *** * brief ****. ***** ***** be **** *** ***** do ** *** *** the ****** ** ******* skin ************ **** * longer ****** ** **** to *** ****-**-**** ****, or **** ******** ******** over **** ** *** area ******** ** *******. But **** *** *** get ** * ***** snapshot **** ****** ***** reference ****, *** *** only ** ** *** with ****.

*******, *** ***** ******* is ***** *********** ** not ******* *** *********** the ****** *** ** leading ** ** **** coming ** **** ** the ******. **** **** running ** ******** ********* heavy **** ***** ***** a ****** *********** ****? Were **** ** ********? Under ** **** ****? Are **** ***** **** were ***** ** ** walking **** * *********** monitoring ****** *** ********* took **** ****** ** try ** ***** ***** temperature *******? (**********, **** compress, ***).

*** * ******'* ******* it.

* ***** :) ** personal ******** ** **** much ** *** **** and ******** ****** **** topic ** ****** **** people *** ****** ****** understanding ** *** **** and **** ** **** thermal ******* *** **, and ******** ***** ** some *** ** **** the *** ******** ** reveal ** ******** ** data **** ****** **** not *****. **** ****** want ***** ******* ** work, *** ******** ******, that **** ***** ** the "****" **** ******, and ****** *** "***" ones, ******* **** ** a ***** ***** ** trust ** *** *******.

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 04/28/20 12:56am

***** *** ***** ** be ****** ******* *** fever *********, ***. **** are ***********, *** *** of *** ***** ** the **** ***** *********** (and **** *********** **********) can **** *************. *** head/face/neck ** *** **** of * ***** ********* of ******** **** **** either, ** ******** ** this ***** *****.

**** ** *** **** how ** ********* *** relative ******** **** ******, you ***** **** **** code ** **** *** program.

*** ******** **** *** say

*******, *** ***** ******* is ***** *********** ** not ******* *** *********** the ****** *** ** leading ** ** **** coming ** **** ** the ******. **** **** running ** ******** ********* heavy **** ***** ***** a ****** *********** ****? Were **** ** ********? Under ** **** ****?

** ** ****** ** dismiss *.*. ******* ** these *************, *** **** the *****: **'********** ***** ************* **** A.I. ***** **** *****.

** *** ***** **** the *** **** ******* body ************ **** ** multiple ****** ** *** body **** ******* ****** the ***** ** *** same ** * **** temp ******** **** * fever? ***** *** *********** lag? * ***'* ****.

*** ****'* *** **** of ******** *.*. ** good **.

****, *** ** **** you ****** ** **********, "speaking ****** *************", * would ***** **** *** most ****** *********** *** tacking ** *.*. ** these *** ******* ** do **** ******* ********.

***** **** ** * year.

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Brian Karas

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 04/28/20 01:11am

** *** ***** **** the *** **** ******* body ************ **** ** multiple ****** ** *** body **** ******* ****** the ***** ** *** same ** * **** temp ******** **** * fever? ***** *** *********** lag? * ***'* ****.

*** ****'* *** **** of ******** *.*. ** good **.

***, *** *** *** talking ***** ** ************ learning *******, ***** ** going ** ** **** more *******.

** ** ****** ** dismiss *.*. ******* ** these *************,

* ** *** ********** it ****** ******* ** complications, * ** ********** it ******* *** *** suggesting ***** ** ** overcome *** **** **** there **** *** ****** to ** *** *** to ********* **** ************ on * ********** ******* part ** *** **** to * **** ***********, or **** ************ * fever.

** ** **** ** a *** ** ******, but ** *** *** the ***** *** ** be ** ****** ****** to **** ******** ** the **** *** *** trying ** *******. *** cannot **** ***** ** to * ***** ** green ***** *** ****** it ** ******* *** weather.

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 04/28/20 01:49am

***, *** *** *** talking ***** ** ************ learning *******, ***** ** going ** ** **** more *******.

*** ************?

*'* *** ******* ***** the ********** *** ******** the *****, *'* ******* about ** * ******* with **** **** ** TPUs.

**** ****** **** * known *****, *****/** ***** present ** * ****** during *** ***** ******** phase.

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Ola Edman

In reply to Brian Karas | 04/28/20 11:20am

*** ***** ***** **** comes ** ** **** where ** ***** ** applied, ***** ** ** adjust *** ******* ***********.

**** ****, *** ******* temperature ** ****** ** change (****** *** *** conditioning ** **** ********), something **** **** ****** the **** ***********. ** an ** ******** **** the ***** **** ** reference, *** **** **** measures ***** ** *** camera ***** ** ****, it ***** ****** ** the **** (** ** certain ***** ** *** field ** ****, *.*. right ****) ******* ****** or ******.

*** **-******** ***** **** adjust *** ******** *********** values ******** *** *** ambient *********** ****** **** the **** ***********.

** ******, **** ******'* help **** *** ********* temperatures ******* ** *** camera ***** ** ****, but ** ***** ******* a ***** ******** ** reported *********** ******.

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Brian Karas

In reply to Ola Edman | 04/28/20 12:20pm

*****. *'* *** **** you'd ****** **** ** to ** * *********** offset. * ***** ***'* really **** ** ** aware ** *** ******* temperature ** *** **** the ****** *** ** preceding *** ******* ** model *** ** ***** have ******** ***** **** temperature **** *** **** several ******* ******* ** to *** *******. ***'* probably **** **** **** way ** ******** **** fat, ****, *** **********, as *** *** ****** will ******* ** *** same *** ** ** ambient ***********.

**** *** ***** ******* the **** **** ****** are ***** ** ** pretty **** ** *******, and *** *** ***** to **** ** ***** for * ********** **** cutoff ***** ****** **** flagged * *********** ** "elevated", ********* *** *** going ** ** ******** so **** ****** **** you ***** ** **** just **** *** ******** closed ** ** ********* reduced ********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

04/28/20 02:56am

**** ****** ******* **** modules ** * *** of ***** ****** *************, so ** **** *** now ************ ** *** viability ** *** ***********. Shouldn’t ** **** ** other *************, *** *** using **** ****** **********, to **** ***** **** their ****** ????

** ***** **** ** asking ** **** **** them ?

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Arindam Bhadra

04/28/20 05:23am

*** **** ***** ******* imaging ****** *** ** image ********** ** *** x *** ******, ********* in **,*** *********** ******** at * ******. **** good ****** ** ****.

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George Peffer

04/28/20 12:06pm

* ***** ****** ***** detector. **** *** ****** with * ***** ***** recognize *** ****.

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In reply to George Peffer | 04/28/20 02:56pm

**** ******: **********-******* *********** detector!

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Undisclosed Integrator #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #9 | 04/28/20 08:14pm

“***** ****** **********-******* *********** Detector” **** ;)

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to George Peffer | 04/28/20 04:55pm

* ***** ****** ***** detector. **** *** ****** with * ***** ***** recognize *** ****.

***'* ***** ** **.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

04/28/20 01:10pm

*** ***** **********? *** terminology ****** ** ********, but * ***** **** in **** ***** *** sale ****** ******* ***********, the *********** ****** ** snake ***, *** *** accuracy **** ******* ******* numbers ** ****** ** unfounded ********-****** ‘**** *** frisk’ *********** *** ************ responses. **** *** ***’* opinion.

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Undisclosed Integrator #8

04/28/20 01:47pm

**** **** ******* ** help **** ******* **** terminology. ***** ***.

*** ******* **** **** a ***** *** ** reading *** ***** ****** and *** ******** **** had **** **** ******* with **.

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Undisclosed Integrator #10

04/28/20 03:01pm

**** * ******* **** someone *** ** ****** as **** **** ** thermal.

*****'* *** ******** ** the ******* ***** ******* from *** ****** ** relation ** *** ********** of *** ****** ***** used **** * ****** as *** ****** ***** to ** **** ** be **** ** **** a ******* ****** ** "pixels" ** ** **** in ***** ** ****** a ******** *********** *******?

* *** ******* **** of *** ********* ** have **** **** ****** fairly *** **** **** the ******. ***** *** fact *** ******* ** the *** ** ***** 1/4" ******, ***** *** to ** * ***** on ***** *** ****** can ** ****** *** an ******** ******* *** I ** *** **** how **** *** ** algorithm ** ** ** to **** ********* *** sensor ****** ********** *** appear, ** ***** ***** pointed *** *******.

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Undisclosed Distributor #11

04/28/20 03:06pm

**** ** ***** *** rounds ** *** ** at *** ******

* **** *** **** people ** ***** ***** it *** *** ** appears ** ** ******* Dahua *** *** **** Chinese *** ********* ****.

**** *********** ****** *** the ***** ****** **** !

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Undisclosed Integrator #12

04/28/20 04:05pm

***** ***, * ******* FLIR’s ******* ** **** their ******* *** *** can’t ** *** ***** willingness ** **** ***** for *** **** ** integrity. **** *** ********* to **** ******* *****, it ******* *** **** other ************* *** ******* to ** ****.

**** **** ****, **** the **** ***** ******* and * ***** ******* about ********* ******* ‘*****-*********’ cameras, ** ***** ******* was **** ** ******** me ** *** ******* post-911 ******** ***** ***** high-rise ******** ****** ** install **** ****** ******** in ***** ** ***** doors ** ***** ** stop **********. ****** * relatively ***** *********, **** realized **** ***** ***** planters **** ********** *********** in ******** ******** ***** than * ******* ******* to ***** ******* ***** lobby *** *** *** started ** ****.

***, *’* ******* ***** articles *** ******* **** politicians **** ** **********’* Governor *** *** ****** things **** ********* *** business ** ***** ************ of ****** (******** ** patron) ****** **** *****, and *’* ******** ** the ****** **** *** public ***** *** *** Vegas ********* ** *** if **** **** ***** would **** *** ***** detectors ** ***** ****** allowing ***** **** *** elevator **** *** ***** massacre ***** **** **** avoided. *** * ***** time, ***** *** ******** talk ** *********** ****** requiring *** ****** ** have ***** ********* ** place. ****, ** ***** have ******* **** ********, but ** ***** **** have ******* *** ***** usage ** ******** ** nobody ***** ********* ***** their ******* ** ** opened *** ******** *** any ***** ****** **** went ** ***** ****.

* ****** ***** **** the ******** ******* **** showed *** ********** ***** in ******** ** ** followed ** **** ** rapid * **** ** interest, *** * **** the ********* **** *** spending ***** ******** ** R&D *** *** ************ themselves **** ******* ******* forgets ***** *** ******** and ******* ** ***** their *********** ** ** taken ** * ********* to ****** ****. ** one ** ** ********* pointed ***, ***** ****** is **** ** **** purchase *** ** ***** cameras, **** ***** ****** to ****** **** ** other ************* ** *** very **** ******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

04/28/20 04:45pm

**, **** ** **** on **** ****. *** without **** ******* ** the ********** ** * controlled ******.

* ****** ** ****** everyone **** *********, *******, and ******* ********** *** use ************ **** **** on **** *** **********..... Why? ******* **** ******* a ******** ** *********** that ** **** ** determine*****************.

*******. ************** **** ** ****** care ** ******* *** monitor **** ***********. ** an ******, ******** ** other ****** **** ********, it ****** * ********* to ****** * ******** temperature **** * ******* is ********. ******** ************ of *********** *********** ****** ********** **** normal ******.

*thermometer ******** temperature through a glass tube sealed with mercury that expands or contracts as the temperature rises or falls. ... As temperatures rise, the mercury-filled bulb expands into the capillary tube. Its rate of expansion is calibrated on the glass scale.

******** ** ******: ** this *********** ********? ***** adding ** ** **** old ********** *** ******** and ******** ******* *** better ***********? *** ** be ******* ** ***** a ****** ******** ******* their *** **** **** from *** ** *** to ******** * *******?

*** ** *********** ************ work ***? *** ********** infrared ************ ********?

*** *********** *** *********** for ******-contact *********** is 97%. ... The ***-contact ******** *********** is a ********, *********** ***************** *** *********** ** temperature *** ** **** useful *** *** ********* of *****.*** ****** ***** ****** in *** **** ** IR (****). ... ** light********* ******* *****—** *** be *******, ********* ** absorbed. ******** *********************** *** * **** to ***** ***** **** one ****** **** * detector, ****** * **********. The ********** ******* *** IR ********* *** ***** it **** ****.

********************, ***** ********* **** about $** ** $**, use **************** ** ******* *** heat **** *** ********. ... **** ******* **** found **********************************, ***** ****** ***** them *** ** ******** as ******************—********** *** **** ******** by **** **********.

*** ***** ** **** long **** ** **** technology ** ********** ******** and *** **** *** to ********* ** * new ********** ** ********* that *** ** **** for ********* ** ** TEST ** ** * controlled *****.

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Markus Tarin

04/28/20 11:35pm

** **** ** *** a ******** ** **** it ****** ** ******, at ***** ** *** US. * ********** **** would ** *********** **** a ********* ***********. *******, in *** **, *** FDA *** ************ **** these ************. *** ***, I ** ***** **** the *** *** **** released * ********* ********* to ***** *** **** ruling. *******, ** ** a "***-*******" ********* *** it ** *********. ** other *****, *** *** may ****** ** ***** sole ********** **** *** how ** ******* **** as **** ** **** to ****** **** *********. So ******* *** ****** changed, ***** **** *** FDA ******** ********* ** install ******* *********** ******* going ***** *** ******/***********/******** or ********** *** ***, due ** *** **** demand ** **** ******. This *** ** ******* at *** ****.

***** ****** ** ** why **** *** ******* the *** ** ***. If *** **** *** FDA **** ************ *** the **** *******, ***'** see * ******* ****** "Intended ***". **** ** the ******** ***** *** which ***** ******* ******** the **** ** *** first *****. *** ***** being **** **** **** beyond **** ***** ** outside ** *** ***** of *** **** *** would ********* ** * violation ** *** ****. The ******** *** *** the ****** ******: "...******** for ** ** ** adjunct ** ***** ******** diagnostic ********** ** *** diagnosis, ***********, *** ********* ofdifferences ** **** ******* *********** changes. It can visualize, document temperature patterns and changes."

** ****, ** ******* camera *** **** **** cleared ** *** *** for **** *********** ************ of *** ****. **** wouldn't ** ********, ***** a ******* ****** *** only ******* *** ******** radiation ******* ** *** surface ** * ***** object (** ****). ***** are ********** **** *********** skin *********** **** *** inner **** **** ***********, due ** **** ************* effects, **** ** ********, fat *****, **************** ***.

*** ***** ******/**** **** area ** *** **** closely ********** ****** *** body *********** ** *** face. ***** *** ************** to ******* *********** *****.

**, ******* ** ** "Elevated **** ***********" *********** has *** **** **** temperature ** **, ***** could *********** ** ****** at ** * ***** that ** ******* ** the ********intended *** for the 510k.

**** ** *** **** specific *** ** **** for *** ******* ****** or ******* *********** *********** for **** ****** ** the **. ********* **** surface *********** ** *** equal ** ******** ** oral *********** **** ********'* mouth. **** ***** ** a *********** ** **********.

**** ** **** ** rectal ***** *********** ******* from *** ***** **** temperature, ****** **** **** than * ******* ****** does **** ********* **** surface ***********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #13

04/29/20 02:09pm

******* * ****** ********, but ********* **** ********* from *******: "**** ****** who **** ******** **** temperature (***) *** **** elevated **** *********** (***). Some ** ***** ****** with *** *** **** a *****. **** ** those ****** **** * fever *** **** ***********". Can ******* **** ** if ******* **** * fever *********** *** ***, and ** ***, **** they *********** **** ***?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13 | 04/29/20 02:21pm

*** ******* **** ** if ******* **** * fever *********** *** ***, and ** ***, **** they *********** **** ***?

**** *********. ** *** not ******* *** *** understanding ** **** ******** with * ***** (*.*.*******), ** **********, *** elevated **** ***********. *******, people *** **** ** elevated **** *********** *** not **** * ***** (e.g.,*********** / ************).

****, *** *** **** an ******** **** *********** but *** ******** **** temperature. *** *******, ** you **** * ***** but *** ***** **** water ** **** ****, your **** *********** **** temporarily ****. ** **** versa, *** *** **** elevated **** *********** *** not ******** **** *********** (e.g., **** ******** ** the ***, **** **** temperature *** ****** **** body ***********, ******* ******** in **** ***** **** a ***** ****).

**** **** ****?

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Undisclosed Integrator #13

In reply to John Honovich | 04/29/20 02:48pm

***, ******. * ***** this *** **** * was ****** ** **********: "you *** **** ** elevated **** *********** *** not ******** **** ***********". You *** ***** **** convinced ** ** ** cautious ***** "***** *********", but *'* ***** ****** to ********** ** **** is ** *** ***** of ***** *** ** if ***** ** **** usefulness ** **** ***********. Will * ***** **** often ** ********* ** elevated **** ***** (********** when *** ****** ******* circumstances **** ** ******** cold ***** ** **** face)? * ***'* **** if *'* ****** *** the ***** *********, *** am ********* ** **** technology **** ***** ****** enough ** *** **** that ** ***** ***** be ****** ** **** as ****** ************ *** set *** *** ********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13 | 04/29/20 08:59pm

*** ** ********* ** this ********** **** ***** fevers ****** ** *** time **** ** ***** still ** ****** ** long ** ****** ************ are *** *** *** customer.

**** ******* ** ** the **** **** ****** scenario *** *******. ***** does *** **** ** be *** ********** *** to *** ** * distance, ** *** ****, 'fever' ********* ** ********** guarantee ** ***** *** fevers. *** ******** **** becomes *** **** ****** / **** ********** ** people **** ****** ***** pass *** *** **** systems ********** ****** ** minimizing ****?

*** ** *** *** a ***** *** *** say ********* **** "**, still **** ****** **** fevers **** ** ****** but * **** ***** 1 *** [***, ****, month, ***.]" **** **** justify *** ******'* ******** and ***?

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Brian Karas

In reply to John Honovich | 04/29/20 09:25pm

* ***** **** ******* the ******** **** ** false *********. *** **** people *** ***** ** be ******* **** ******** a ***** ******* *** system **** ***** ******** is *** ***?

*** ** ******, ***** might ** ******* ****, people ************* **** ** go ** **** (** have ** ** ** work), *** **'* **** kind ** * ****** you **** ****. *** for ******** ****** **** movies, ** ***** *****, I ***** ***** ******* will ****** * ************** to **********.

*** *** ****** ************, people **** ***** ** beat *** ****** ** short ***** ** ** actually ******* ***********. ***** the */* ** **** car ** **** **** for * *** ******* before ***** **. *** a ****-****, **** **** ibuprofen, ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #13

In reply to Brian Karas | 04/29/20 09:34pm

***** *'* ***************, *** instead ** ******* ******* away *** ** * false ********, ***** ***** a ******** *** **** provide * ********* **** with * *********** ** another ********* **** ******* accuracy? *** ********** ****** thermometer ****, *** ***** must ** ********* **** semi ***** *** ********. :-)

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Brian Karas | 04/30/20 12:27am

* ***** **** ******* the ******** **** ** false *********. *** **** people *** ***** ** be ******* **** ******** a ***** ******* *** system **** ***** ******** is *** ***?

*** ****, * ***** that *** **** ** either *** **** ****** with ****** ****** ** too **** ****** ******* fevers ***** ******* (**** case ** ***** *********).

*******, **** **** ** have **** ** ***, false ********* **** ** be ***. *** ****** behind **** ** **** the ******* **** ** include * ****** *********** margin ** ***** ******* 'normal' *********** *** '****' alerting ***** **** ****** tend ** ** ******** 'low'. *** *********** ***** a ******* **** *** people **** ****** ***** missed, ** *** ***** are ***** ****. **** sense **?

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Brian Karas

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #13 | 04/29/20 02:22pm

***** ** ******* ** "an ********** **** **** temperature". *** **** *********** above *** ****** ******* of **.** ** ********** to ** * *****, but ********* ** ** generally *** ********** ** be ********** ** *** kind ** *********/*****/*** ***** it ** ***** ****.

**** *********** *** ** may *** ******** ********* to **** ***********. **** skin *** *** ** a **** **** *** your ****, ************ ***** with ************. **** **** temperature *** ** ******, or *****, **** **** core **** *********** *** a ******* ** *******.

** ** ********* ** note (***) **** ** definition*************** ****** ** ********** measured ******** ******** (**: skin/surface). **** ***** ** roughly ********** ** ********* the ******* **** *********** of **** ***** *** saying "** ** *** inside **** *****".

****, *****, *** **** of ** ********* ***...

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Undisclosed #3

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Brian Karas | 04/30/20 01:43am

**** ***** ** ******* equivalent ** ********* *** outside **** *********** ** your ***** *** ****** "it ** *** ****** this *****".

******* ***** ****** * cannabis ******* ******** ** helicopter ****** **** ******* imaging ******.

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****, **********, *** **** of ** ********* ***...

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Brian Karas

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 04/30/20 11:28am

**** *****. * *** thinking **** ***** *** lines ** ********* *** outside ******* ** * house **** *** **** exposed ** *** *** comparing **** ** *** interior ***********.

** ******, ** *** measured *** ******* ******* temp ** **** *****, I ***** ***** ** is ***** **** ****** inside.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #14

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 04/30/20 01:27pm

* ****** **** ***** electric **** ***** ****??? Those **** ***** *** hot *** *********!

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Undisclosed Integrator #13

04/29/20 02:50pm

****** *****. **** *****: by ************************* ****** ** ********** measured ******** ******** (**: skin/surface)

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John Honovich

IPVM | 05/24/20 11:41am

**** ****** **************** **** *** ***** clear *** *********** ***** instructions:

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