US company, Athena Security, faked its coronavirus fever detection marketing, faked a customer, faked comments, and is now using Hikvision, IPVM has determined though Athena denies.
The case of Athena security shows a very troubling pattern of companies taking advantage of the fear and desperation of users looking for any solution to this.
UPDATE: Athena officials spoke to IPVM before publishing and we included that in the original report. Now, Athena's CEO spoke with IPVM, saying the Athena branded camera they showed to KVUE (Hikvision white label) is not the type of camera they sell, that the cameras they do sell are NDAA compliant and that they have pledged "50% of the profits go to the victims from COVID". We have added a new section to cover this.
****** **** *** ** a *********** **** ** this *****, ********** **** a "********** *****" *** said "[******'* ********] **** my ********* **** *****" and "** ******** *** slowing ****, *** *** with ******, **'* ******** to **** **":
**** ********** *** ********** as ****** **** * camera ****** ** *********,** ******-*****,****** *****, **** *****. *** Tacodeli **** **** **** had ***** **** ****** Security ****** *** *** sent *** ******* * cease-and-desist:
***** *** *** ******** out *** ****** ** aware ** **** *********.Tacodeli **** *** *** *** ***** ****** **** ** ******** *** ****** ******** ******** ** ********, ********* ******'* ******* ****** *********** ********* ******. While we do have security cameras, we do not have a security camera where this image is positioned. We **** ******* *** ** ****** ******** **** * ***** *** ****** ******. [emphasis added]
*** *.*. *** ***** was ******* ***** ******’* technology ** ****** **** within *** ***** *** other **********, ******* ****, but **’* *** ***** the ***** ********* ************* as ****.
** ***** ** ** possible. ***** ********* ******* are *** ******* **-****** products ** ***** ************ right ***, *** ****, as ************* *** ****** for ***** ***** *** often ********* *** ******** that ***** ***** ********* and ********* ****.
** *** ***** ****, like ** **** ***** things **** ****** ****, the ***** ***** ***** very **** ** *****.
UPDATE ***** **, ****
******'* *** ****** **** and ******** *****.
***** *********** *** *** Hikvision ****** ** **** they ****** **** ******* cameras **** ********* ******* such ** ******, ********* the *** ***** ** the **** *****. **** one, **** ***, *** unlabelled / ***** *******. They ***** **** ** is * ********* ****** they ******** **** **** to ********** *****. ** we ********, ** ** a *********. * ********** explanation ** **** **** bought **** ********** ****** and *** *** **** it *** * ********* (which **** ******, ******* risk *** ** ******). Related,******'* *** **** ***** today“********* ********** ** ****** [***] ***" ***** is, ** ******, ******. It ** ******* ** sell ********* ** *** US ******* **********, ******* to **** **** ******* US **********, ***. *** it ** ***** ** sell **** ** ***-** government-affiliated ****** **** ** taco *****, ***.
**** *** ******* **** they *** ****** **** and **** ** ****** causing **** ** ***** mistakes.
**** ********** **** **** are * ******** ******* and *** **** **** various ******* *******. *******, they **** *** **** to ******* ** ******** what ***** ** **** of ******* ******* **** are ********* ** *** $8,900 ** $*,*** ******* they *** ******* ****** that **** ***** ** NDAA *********. **** ** still **** *********, *** just *** ***** ******* but *** *********** ******* as **** *** ***** of ******* ******* **** even *** ******* ******** to ******* ** ** fever *********.
*** ********* ** ******** actually ******* * ******** that ***** *** **** to ********* **** *****?
******, ****** *** **** first *******! ***, ***** are * *** ** companies *** ******** ******* for * ******** ***** detection ********. ** ** said ** *** ****, this ** ********** *** hottest ******** ** ***** surveillance ***** *** ** are ******* **** ** suppliers ***** **** *** and ******* ** **** up **** **********.
** ** - **** there ***** ** * demand ** ** **** self **** ** ******** to *** ******?
***** ********, * ****** that ******. ** ******** thermal ***** ********* ***** to ** *** *** norm ** **** ** be ********* ** * month ** * ****, etc. **** ****** ******* and ***** ******* *** available.
* ***** *** ******** is **** ***** ** so **** ***** ***** lost ***** *** **** closures *** ********* **** even ******** $**,*** *** a ****** **** ** used *** * ****** is ***** **.
** ******, *** **** these ****** ******** **** is ***** ** ********* open ********.
******'* *** ****** ** and *** **** *****. I **** ** ******** the **** ******* **** their ********.
***** *********** *** *** Hikvision ****** ** **** they ****** **** ******* cameras **** ********* ******* such ** ******, ********* the *** ***** ** the **** *****. **** one, **** ***, *** unlabelled / ***** *******. They ***** **** ** is * ********* ****** they ******** **** **** to ********** *****. ** we ********, ** ** a *********. * ***** the ********** *********** ** that **** ****** **** unlabelled ****** *** *** not **** ** *** a ********* (***** **** happen, ******* **** *** US ******). *******,******'* *** **** ***** today“********* ********** ** ****** [***] ***" ***** is, ** ******, ******. It ** ******* ** sell ********* ** *** US ******* **********, ******* to **** **** ******* US **********, ***. *** it ** ***** ** sell **** ** ***-** government-affiliated ****** **** ** taco *****, ***.
****, *** *** *** not ***** **** * pointed *** **** ******* and * *** **** communicating **** ***** ***** for * *** **** before *** ******* *** published.
**** *** ******* **** they *** ****** **** and * ******* **** is ******* **** ** these ********.
**** ********** **** **** are * ******** ******* and *** **** **** various ******* *******. *******, they **** *** **** to ******* ** ******** what ***** ** **** of ******* ******* **** are ********* ** *** $8,900 ** $*,*** ******* they *** ******* ****** that **** ***** ** NDAA *********. **** ** still **** *********, *** just *** ***** ******* but *** *********** ******* as **** *** ***** of ******* ******* **** even *** ******* ******** to ******* ** ** fever *********.
**** ****** ** ****, and ********* **** "**'** getting * *** ** inquiries ***** ****, ** we're ****** **** ** you **** ** ** a ***, *** ******** a ******* ** (*) units *** **** ******* (5) ** ***** *** sale."
* *** *********** ********* about ****, ** *'* not ******* ** *** business ** ****** ****** by *** ****** ******* ever ****** ** *****. I **** ****** ** on *** ********, ***** I ******* **** **** level ** ******** ***** with * *** ***** tag.
* **** ** ******* they **** ******* **** they **** **** ** their ******* **** ** to ******* *******, *** my *** **** ** she *** ******* ** a ****** **** ********* pumping *** *******...
**** **. ** **** are ** **** **** their ****** ** *** a *********, **** **** you **** ***** *** is **, *** ****'* they **** **** *** one ** ***** "******* Cameras" *** *** ** test? **** ***** **** been *** ******* *** for **** ** ***** their ****.
******* *****, *** ** it **** ***** ****** allegedly **** *** *** Force **** ** ***** cameras *** **** *** still ******* ******? ** all *** **** ******** to ******** *** ***** the **** *****. * don't ********** *** ** this *** ** *** people *** ***** ***** themselves ** *** ****. SMH....
**** ** **. *** in **** ****, ******** with **** *** ******** business ***** *** ** recorded ** * ******* in **** ********. ** seems ** ** **** this ****** ** *********** as ****** ***********. ** not **?
** ***** *******: "**, I ***... ****, ***** you" ******* ****** **** and ****** ****)
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
***** *** *** ******* this. * **** **** seeing **** *** **** about ****** *** ********* about ****, **** ********* things. * ********** **** it ************* **** ****** will **** ********* ** a ****** ** **** a ***** ****, ********** when ** *** ********** the ****** *** ****** of ******.
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**** ***** ** ***** tragedy ***** ***** **** that *** ****** *****. Great ** *** ****** Security *** ****** ********** out *****.
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*** **** **** ***** here ** *** ********* of ********!
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*** ***** **** *******, in ***** *********** *****, that ******* *** ********* were **** ********* **** ever. *** ****. ***** advertisements, *** *** ********** backing **** **, **** a ******** **** ** both.
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** ****'** ******* ******* cameras ** *** *.*. military, ***'* **** * recipe ********** ****** ** *** DoJ?
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** **** *** * comparison ** * "****-*** salesmen" ** ***** **** off ** ********* ***, but **** **** ***** a ********** ******* **** is ** ********* ******* fraudulent *********** ** ** shocking. **** ** ********** that *** ******* ******** maker ***, *** ***** does, ** ******** ****** purchasing **********, *****?
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Rainald Schulte-Eppendorf
03/24/20 07:00pm
***** ********. ****** ****. Given *** **********, * would **** ** ******* that **** ******* ** published *** *** ****** and *** **** *** members.
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Fabian Muyawa
IPVMU Certified | 03/24/20 07:16pm
********* ******* *** **** researched.
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***** *** *** ****! Our ******* ** **** familiar **** ** *** IR *** ****** ** the ****** ** *** it...the **** ** ********* is **** ******* ** me. ***** ***, ** drives * ****** ***** in *** *********** ******** of ** **** *** have ********* ******* ** cash ** ********** (** any) *** ***** **** profits.
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* ******** **** *** of ***** ********* ******* on ** *****. **'* fun ** **** **** but ** ** ** way ******** ****** *** what ****** ** ********. Mine ***** **** **** theirs, ****** ** *****'* have *** ****** **** on **.
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********** ** ******* *** thing *****, * ***** their ******* ****** ******** extremely ******* ** ******* in ** **** *** right ******* *** ** budget!
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Chris Anderson
@**** ******** * ****** and ****** **** ******* and **** ** **** to *** *** ******* email *** **** *******. My **** ** ** course **** ****** ** retract *** ******* ** help ***** ****** ******* bamboozled ** **** ****.
* ******** ***** * sent * ****** **** asked ** **** *** paste **** ******* *****, so *'* ****** ***'** OK **** **** (** have ******* ********* **** directly).
***** ***,
***** ********
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Rainald Schulte-Eppendorf
03/24/20 07:47pm
***: ***** ** ******** *************** **,*% *********** ******** with **AXIS *****-* *********** ***** ******. The **** **************** ********* * *********** accuracy ** +/- *° Celsius ***** ***° *******.
*** ******* **** **** solution ** *** **** Q2901-E *** *********** ************?
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Joseph Hovsepian
***
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Undisclosed Integrator #10
*** *********** ** *****'* body *********** ******? *'** been ********** ** * distributor **** **** * video ** **. *********, the ******* ***'* ** found ** *****'* *******.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #11
* **** ********* **** The **** ***** ** Las ***** *** ********* thermal *******. ********. ** Las *****. * ****** what *** *****-******** **** will ** ** *** summertime.
***, ** ****, **** if *** **** **** to ****** ******* **** an ******** *********** (** they **** ** **** at *** ******? **** if **** **** ******* up?), **** ****? ***** you **** * ***** of *****-****** ****** **** handheld **** **** ******* the ***-*********? *** ***** you ******** ******** *** target ******* *** *********** that ** *** *****-**** staff ** * ****** enough ******?
******'* ** **** ** easier/safer/faster ** ***** ****** up *** ****-*** ********?
*** ** ****** ** Thermal/IR ** *** ***. Just *******.
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Alex Sinitsky
****, ****'* ** *** cents ** ****, *** I ***** ** *****...
*. *********, ******** ****** is ** ********* *******. Regardless ** *** ***** the ******** ** *** firmware ** * ****** may **, ** ***** must ** ******* ***** an ************, ****** **** a ************* **** ** gets ** *** ***** of "*********" ** *** physical ********** ** *** object **** ** * camera. **** ******* ** ALL ******** ****** **********, this ********** ******* ** the **** **** **'** talking ***** "*********" ** temperatures, ***** **** ************ in **********
*. ** ******* *** NOT **********, **** ****. Yes, **** *** ******* an ***** **** ***** levels ** ******** ********* emitted ** *** ****** in *** ****. *** yes, ** **** ***** to ****** *********, *.*. to ****** *** *** with ****** *********** ** the *****. *******, ** are ******* ***** ************, not ******** ******.
*. ** ***** ** get **** *********** ******* veraciously, *** ****** **** be ********** ** *** etalon *********** ******. **** is ** ** **** to **** ****, ***, 'a ***** **** *** 0 ********** ***** ***, a ***** **** *.* brightness ***** ***, *** so *****. ********, **** calibration ****** ** ********* on * ******** ***** since *** ******* *********** s **** ****** ****** readings. ** ***** *****, camera **** ****** **** an *********** ***** *** ambient ************ **** * thermometer, ** **** ** object (***** **** ******) with * ********, ****** temperature ** *** ****. Without ****, *********** ******** obtained *** ** ***** analysis *** ********** *****, actually, *** ** **** on *** ********* *****.
*. ** ********... *** people **** **** *********** anomalies ** ********? ***. But *** ** ** thermocamera ******* ******* ******* of ****** *********** *******? No ** ******** **% of *****. ****, **** software ******** **** ****** a *********** ***** ***** give ** ********** ** might ** ******** ** distinguish ******* **.** *** 37.5C ****** *** ** trusted, *** ****** ****** be ***** * **** false ********** **** ******* can ******* ************/********** *** be **** *** ****** medical ***********.
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Kyle Folger
**** *******. *'* * little ********. * *** on ***** *******, **** now **** * *******. Was **** ******* ******* initially ** **** ****?
** ** *** ******* images, *** *** ********, and *** **** ***** all **** **** ** undeniably * ********* ******, why **** **** ******* exists. ** *** *** marketing * *******, *** display *** ****** *******. That's **** **** * ordered **** *** ** Amazon, *** **** **** me **** *** *** with * **** *******. The ****** ** ****** worded ** ** **, but *'** ********* ****** and **** ****** ********* cameras, ** ***** **** out ********. *** **** goes *** **** ***** cameras.
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Sonny Tai
*** **** **** ***'** made ** ** * tech ******* **** * taco **** ***** *** a *****-***-******.
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Ken Weiss
***** *** ****!!!
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*** *** ***** ** reach *** ** ****, Breitbart, ******, ***. ** let **** ****?
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Daniel Smith
****, * **** ****** a **** ** **** page *** **** ** my ******** *********** ** read. *** ******* *** not **** ** **** the ***** ************ ***** I ****** ** **** in ** **** ** so * ** ******** this ** **. **** is **** ********* *********** in * **** ** crisis *** *** *********** presented **** **** * direct ****** ** ****** safety. ********* **** ****** be ********* ** ***. We **** *** **** positive ******* ** ****** others ****** **** ******, either ** ****** ***** with ****** ******* ********* or ******** ** *** giving ** ********* ** some *** ** **** the ********* ****** *** more ******** *** ******.
***** *** *** ****** the ******* ** ******* this ******** *****.
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Gregory Keeling
**** ******** *** **** very ******* ** *********** the ********* ** *** industry **** **** ** concern *** *** ***** and ****** ** *** very ****** **** *****.
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Jerome Klapak
** *** ***** ** all *** ********** ****** and ********* ***** *******, which ** *********, ** there ** ****** **** or ****** *** **** technology *****? *** ********* or ******** ******** ******* a ******** **** ***** and **** ** ********* this *****? ** ** - **** ***** ***** be * ****** ** an **** **** **** is ******** ** *** public?
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Thomas Lienhard
**** ******* **** **** confirms ****** *** * am * ****** ** IPVM- ** ******** ******** is ********* *** * well ******** *** ******** responsible ******** ** ******. Rock **!
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Ryan Grealy
********** ******** *** **********!!!
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Undisclosed Integrator #17
* ****** ****** ** roll ********* **** *** title ********** ********* ** a ** ********* ********* and ****. * ****** like *** ******** "****** cam" *****....
* ***** **** *** a ****** **** ** what ****** **** ****** - *** *********** *** company ********* ****** **** up **** *** ***** on *** ****** "*** Now" ****....
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**** ***** ******
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Jimmy Whalen
****,
*** *** ** **** testing ******* ** *** AI ********* ******** ****? Do *** **** ********* like ** ** ****** them ** *** *** testing?
* ** ***** ** is ********* ****** ***** times *** ******* ** fast ***** ******* ** these ** * *** biased ***.
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Jimmy Whalen
*** * **** ******** with *** ***** ** why * ******** **** the **** ** ****** them ** ** ******* to *** **** **** say. ** **** **** about **** ** **** say *** ** **.
*** ***** *** ***** 10k? *** **** ****** if **** **** ***** it ** *** *** not ***** ** *** it? **** * **********.
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John Honovich
******'* *** ****** ** and *** **** *****. I **** ** ******** the **** ******* **** their ********.
***** *********** *** *** Hikvision ****** ** **** they ****** **** ******* cameras **** ********* ******* such ** ******, ********* the *** ***** ** the **** *****. **** one, **** ***, *** unlabelled / ***** *******. They ***** **** ** is * ********* ****** they ******** **** **** to ********** *****. ** we ********, ** ** a *********. * ***** the ********** *********** ** that **** ****** **** unlabelled ****** *** *** not **** ** *** a ********* (***** **** happen, ******* **** *** US ******). *******,******'* *** **** ***** today“********* ********** ** ****** [***] ***" ***** is, ** ******, ******. It ** ******* ** sell ********* ** *** US ******* **********, ******* to **** **** ******* US **********, ***. *** it ** ***** ** sell **** ** ***-** government-affiliated ****** **** ** taco *****, ***.
****, *** *** *** not ***** **** * pointed *** **** ******* and * *** **** communicating **** ***** ***** for * *** **** before *** ******* *** published.
**** *** ******* **** they *** ****** **** and * ******* **** is ******* **** ** these ********.
**** ********** **** **** are * ******** ******* and *** **** **** various ******* *******. *******, they **** *** **** to ******* ** ******** what ***** ** **** of ******* ******* **** are ********* ** *** $8,900 ** $*,*** ******* they *** ******* ****** that **** ***** ** NDAA *********. **** ** still **** *********, *** just *** ***** ******* but *** *********** ******* as **** *** ***** of ******* ******* **** even *** ******* ******** to ******* ** ** fever *********.
*******, **** **** ************** ***** ********* ******* down, *** ***.
********, **** **** ***** that:
** ** *** **** Athena ******** **********. ***** they ****** **** **** and ** **** **, they ****** **** **** a ****** ***, ** more *********** ***** **** they *** ***** *** selling ** **** **** can ****** ****** **** the ******* ******** **** for ***** ********* ****** in **** ******.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
*** ******* ******* ******* designed *** ******** ************ are ******** *** ******** for *****-** ********* ************ - **** ** ***** brochures **** **** ******* in *** **** *** weeks ** ***** **** are.
***** *********** (*****-**) - Thermal ********* *** ******** temperatures » ********** ********** and *******
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Thomas Lienhard
******* ** ***** ** with "***** ********* ******" link...
*/**/**** *:****
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Salvatore D'Agostino
** *** ******* ********* hype, *** **** *** not ***** **** ** comes ** ****** ****** about **/** ** ** that's *** ** **** to **** ********* ************* robust. ************ ********* ***** the ******* *** *** case. **** ****.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
* **** ** ***** ******** ********* *** ****
***** **** ** **** competing **** ******?
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Michael Gonzalez
03/25/20 11:51pm
* *** ***** ******** earlier ** *** **** looking *** **** ** help *** ****** ********** facilities **** ** ********/******** screening. * **** ****** the ****** ******* *** contacted ****.
**** ****** ** ****, and ********* **** "**'** getting * *** ** inquiries ***** ****, ** we're ****** **** ** you **** ** ** a ***, *** ******** a ******* ** (*) units *** **** ******* (5) ** ***** *** sale."
* *** *********** ********* about ****, ** *'* not ******* ** *** business ** ****** ****** by *** ****** ******* ever ****** ** *****. I **** ****** ** on *** ********, ***** I ******* **** **** level ** ******** ***** with * *** ***** tag.
* **** ** ******* they **** ******* **** they **** **** ** their ******* **** ** to ******* *******, *** my *** **** ** she *** ******* ** a ****** **** ********* pumping *** *******...
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Michael Gonzalez
03/26/20 12:25am
** ***** **** *** range ** **** ** be ** ** +/- .4 *******, ** * believe *** ********* ** your ******** ******* ***** fever *********. * ***** a ****** ****** *** that ****:***** ************: ******** *** Comparison | ** ****** | *******, **
*********** ********* ************* ********* when ***** ******* ******* can ** ***** ****:******** ****** ******** *** Uncertainty ** ***** ******** | **** *******
***** **** **** *** uses ********* ********* ** well:****** - *****'* **** gun ********* ******
*** ** **** ***** said *** **********, **** is * ****** ***** on *** ****. * haven't ****** **** *** out *** **********, *** they *** **** *** the ******* ***** *** remedies:**** - *** ***** Blocked **********
*********, **'* **** ********** what ***'** ******* ******. None ** *** ******* stuff ** ******** **** ready *** ***** **** yet, *** **** *** more ********* ********* *** simply *** ******** *********; medical ********** **** *** up ***** ********* ******* built *** ****** ******.
***** ********* ****** | Innotec ********* | ******** Products">*****?***** ********* ****** | Innotec ********* | ******** Products
****** *** ****** ** consciousness-style *****...*'** *** *** too **** ******** *****. Working **** **** ** weird.
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Undisclosed #20
**** **** *** **** this *** *** **** below? **** ***** **** it ***** ** ***, but * ** *** sure. *** ** *** factories **** **** *** primarily *** *** **** good ****** ** *** about **** ******** *******. InVid ** ******* ** some ** ** ****** dealers **** ** *** in ** **** ***********. This **** ***** *** based ** *** **** and **** * **** from ** **** ** FLIR.. ** *** ***** keep ** *** **** fight, **** *** * good ****.
***-************: **** *********** ********* Network ****** — *********
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Hermin Sanchez
03/26/20 05:04am
**** **. ** **** are ** **** **** their ****** ** *** a *********, **** **** you **** ***** *** is **, *** ****'* they **** **** *** one ** ***** "******* Cameras" *** *** ** test? **** ***** **** been *** ******* *** for **** ** ***** their ****.
******* *****, *** ** it **** ***** ****** allegedly **** *** *** Force **** ** ***** cameras *** **** *** still ******* ******? ** all *** **** ******** to ******** *** ***** the **** *****. * don't ********** *** ** this *** ** *** people *** ***** ***** themselves ** *** ****. SMH....
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John Honovich
****** ******** ********* ** delete / ****** *** word '*****' ** *** title. ** **** ******** and * **** ** explain ****.
*** ****** ** *** title "***** *********** ***** Detection" ** * ******* description ** * **** that ********. **** ***** that *** **** ***** on ***** ******* *** sales **** *** *****. That **** ***** * 3rd ***** **** ***** does *** ********* *** company's ************** ** ********* and ********* ******** **** used *** * ***** prior ** **** *********** this.
*** ******* ********** ****:
******* *** ******* ****** / ******** ** **** we ** *** **** nor **** ** *******. We **** **** **** they***(**** *****) ************ ** their ******* *** *****. Hopefully, *** ***** ********* what **** *** *** providing *****.
*** ******* **** *******:
**** ** ** *** request. ** *** ***** to ** * **** or ********** *** *** test ** *** **** but ********* *** ** quid *** *** *** removing ********* ******* *********.
** **** ** ** a ******-** **** *********** what *** ********** ** the **** * **** since ********** **** *******.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13
**** ** *********: ***** they *** ****** ** sell **** ******* ** 9000-10000 *** *** **** (but *** **** * items *** *** ********) to ******** (***** ***) have * ******* ******* in *-* ******?
**** *** **** **** plan ** **** ******* Gonzalez? ******* **** *** promise **** ***** ******* will **** ** **** a ****?
**** *** *** *** mercy *** * ***’* see ***** ******** *** you *** *********** *** calling **** * **** and ******** **** ***.
**** *** *** *** to ****** ****** ********, but * ***'* *** an ******* ** ***** record **** **** ******* on ****** ** ***** resources ***** *** **** forgiveness *** *** ***, "contract **** *.*.*** *****", "1000 *******", *.*.*.
**, **** ** *** sorry, **** ******** ** show *** **** ******* specification ** ***** *** site, **** ***** *** in ***** ******* **********, and **** ******** ****** to **** **** *******.
** **** ***** **** all *** ***** *** only **** *** ******?
**** *** *** * mistake. *** ***** ** was *** * *******, then ***** ** ** mercy.
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Undisclosed Integrator #21
* ******** *********** **** this *** ***** **** me *****. **** * search *** **** ****** it ***** ** ** this ******.
***-************: **** *********** ********* Network ****** — *********
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John Honovich
****** **** ******** ** TechRepublic********** **** ** '********* industry ******' *** ****** that *** *** **** to **** **** *** pricing:
***** ** *** ********, even *** ******. ***** that **** *** ********** positioning ********** ** ******* outside ********** *** ** attempt ** ******** ********* or ******* *** ***** presented.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13
**** ******* *** **...
**** ** *** ****.* *****:
***
** **** *****, *** US *** ***** ** referred ** ** ********* who ******* *** ******'* product, ****** **** ****** agreeing ** *********** ** the ******.
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Undisclosed Manufacturer #13
**, *** ******** ***** opened: *** ****** ***** that ****** ****** ****** advert *** **** ****** by ***** "*********" **** U.S.Government *** *.*.*** *****?
*** *** *** ******* become * ******* ***** you *** **** ****** and *** *** **** with **?
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John Honovich
******:***, ****** ** ******* a ********** ************* ****** ******* ****** plus ******* ***** ** 'look ** ******' *** 'DO *** ****':
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John Honovich
******: ****** *** *** a *** ******* ************** called "*****://***.***********-*********.***/" *** *** ******* raised ****** ****** ** $20,000+
**** ****** ********* ******* ********* faking ******, *********** ***** ********* and ************ ********, *.*.:
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Robert Tabbara
**** *** *** *** built * *** ******** company ****** *** ***** kicked **** ***. **** are *****,******* ************* *** have *****. **** ***** have ****** ****** ** till **** **** ** in * ***** ******* buy *** *** ******* up ******** **** **** to **** *** **** attempted *******.
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Thomas Lienhard
**** *** ****** ** another ****** ***:
* *** ** ****** Sales **** ******* ********* with ******* "***** ********" device **** ********** "**** Recognition"
**, * *** ***** to *** *****: * asked "*** *** *** Approved ** * ******* device?"
*** *****: "*** ******** is *** *** ********"
* **** "** ***** you" *** ********* "**** how *** *** **** this *** *********** ********* or ***** ********* - using **** ** * medical ******? * **** a ****** **** *** interested ** *** *******" (truthfully, **** ***** ** to ***********)
*** *****: ** ** a ****** *********** ****** with *********** ******** ********** as ****" "** *** a *********** ******** ** .5%" ******** **.* * that's .*** *******
* ******* "*** *** trying ** **** (********) positives *** ******** ** very ********..."
*** *****: **** ******* cannot ** *** ******** since *** *********** ******** capability ****** ** ***% accurate"
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**** ********* "*** *********** scanner **** *** ****** recognition ******** *** ** cannot ** ******** ** FDA ******* ** *** limitation ** ******* ** accurate ******* (****, **** is ***** ******* **'* saying *****'* **** ****)
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