Chinese Police Wearing Facial Recognition Are Here

And if the PRC police tell you to remove your glasses and/ or hat, are you going to say no? :)

If you were a Chinese citizen and made the claims above, 14 of your neighbors would've turned you in so their social credit system scores go up.

And then we'd see you in about 7 years after your re-education was completed.

"I'm very surprised that all the comments so far are negative. The big brother fear mentality has definitely spread far and wide. I expect more from intelligent peers in the technology industry."

Nice beginning - calling those that might disagree with you stupid.  This is not a productive style.

It's actually difficult to listen to anything you have to say after that kind of weak and intentionally demeaning opening.

You are clearly espousing the LE position - validating my primary point in this string; that LE will use any technology they can find (to keep everyone 'safe') and never ask anyone if they can legally use it first. 

"If any one wants to pass due to moral issues, please send your customers my way."

spare us the virtue signaling, lieutenant - there is a potential constitutional challenge to how certain data is captured/stored.  Your comment demeans those with differing opinions by insinuating your morals are higher/more important than others.

Stephen, thanks! Very interesting!

If he/she sees a wanted person in public, they have every right to stop, question, confirm ID, etc. 

The problem I see is what is included as 'wanted'. Let's take 'illegal immigrants' as an example. The police officer uses their facial recognition glasses and gets a warning that an illegal immigrant is next to them. Do they take them in and have them deported?

Other issues can be where it is used. If police use it more often in minority areas, is it racist?

Let's leave aside whether it's right or wrong for a second. The reality is that it's going to create an uproar. And anyone who has any reason to fear police will run whenever they see a police officer with camera sunglasses.

In fact, the idea that the officer is wearing the camera should lessen the worry of privacy issues and 4th amendment claims. If the officer is legally present at a location and can see someone then everything that officer sees is usable.

I think the 4th amendment issue will be why is the police officer even searching the person's face in a database to begin with? If a person is just walking down the street eating an ice cream cone with his child, even if he has an arrest warrant, do the police have a right to search his face in a database simply because he is walking down the street? I am genuinely don't know the law on this, but it strikes me, at least, as being highly controversial in America.

good words Randy.... and I agree with them all.

"Our value to the conversation can be to provide information about the technology. I have seen the facial recognition systems at ASIS and ISC and they are not all that. They recognize from a much smaller data base than the Chinese population and they did it with a ton of false positives."

This is exactly the time to be establishing our position as experts and leading the effort to establish guidelines for use of this new technology.

Except this doesn't ever happen.

Generally speaking, manufacturers tout their new things as panaceas rather than being concerned with any of the social repercussions of the use of their new technology - because they want to sell lots of this thing.

Also generally speaking, VAR partners of these manufacturers are incentivized to spout the manufacturers propaganda points in order to get their chunk of the deals - because they want to sell lots of this thing.

I am for adding tools to the tool belt of LE.

I am also for constitutional protections.

When the debate occurs after the technology is in place - I believe - it is too late to rein in practices that have already been put in place without serious push back that promotes 'successes' in able to ignore civil liberties concerns.

My favorite part is this:

US has 30 million police cameras 

China may have 170 million CCTV cameras trained on its 1.3 billion citizens. But there were an estimated 30 million police surveillance cameras installed at US street corners and parks three years ago. Schwartz believes the number of such devices in urban hubs such as New York and small suburban towns has swelled since. Given that the US currently has a population of 326 million, the per capita proportion of surveillance cameras to citizens in the two nations isn’t that different. 

There are roughly 3,000 "cities" with a population above 10,000 in the US. So on average, US cities have 10,000 cameras. Obviously.