UK CCTV User Group Warns of Ethical, Financial, Reputational, and Technical Risks of Using Dahua and Hikvision

By Charles Rollet, Published Jul 06, 2021, 08:39am EDT (Info+)

Until now, the UK CCTV industry has been silent about Dahua and Hikvision's ethical, financial, reputational, or technical risks. This week, however, the UK's CCTV User Group issued a statement warning on all counts.

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Inside this note, we examine the UK CCTV User Group's statement and rising concern in both the US and UK about PRC surveillance manufacturers.

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CCTV **** ***** **********

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*** ***** **** **** ** ** "primarily" (**%) **** ** ** ***** government **** ****** ******** (**** ********, police, ***) *** **% "******* *******".

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*** ***** ******** ******* ********* *** they ********* ** **** **** *********, Dahua, *** ****** *** *** *******. The ***** ******** ** ******* * list ** *** *** ******* ******* this *** "************ *********".

Risks *** *********/*****/****** **** **** ********

** ********** ********* *********, *** ***** ******** ********* ***** of *********, *****, *** ****** *** all ***** ****, ****** **** ***** four ***** - *********, *******, ************/*********, and *********:

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**** **** ***** ***** **** *** companies **** **** ***** ** ************, however, *** **** ******* **** ******** "****** ** ****** ** ****** a ************ ****".

Technical ****: ** ********** "******** *********" *** ******** *******

**** ***** ****** **** * "********* risk" ** *** ******* ***** "**** to **********" ****** *** ** *******, even **** *** ****, ****** **** "some ** ********** *********** *** ******** stripping **** ******** ******* **** ***** premises ***** ** *** ************* ****":

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******, ** *********/***** ********** ***** *** attracted ******** *.*. *********** ****************** ***********' ********* ***** ************ ***** *** ************ *** **'* ************ ******** *** pushing *** "*****" ******* *** ************ tech

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*** **** ***** ***** **** *** companies "**** * ***** **** ** share **** **** *** ******* ***** on ******" (******* * ** *********** ************ ***), ***** **** ****** *** ** FCC's********* ******** ******** ****** ***.

Reputational & ******* ****: ********** ******* *******

*** *********' "****-**********" *********** ** "********** of *** *******" ***** "******* * challenge ** ** *************' ****** *** supply ***** ********", *** ***** ****:

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**** ******* ****** **** ** ************/********* risk, **** ** "******** ** ********* outside ** **** *****" ***** *** equipment "** ********** ********** ** ****** minorities":

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*** ***** ********* ******** **** *** other *******'*********** ****** ********* *** ******** **** issue, ******* **** ***** **** **** is "*** **** ** *** **", such ******* ***** "******* ****** ***** risks ** **** ** ************ *****."

Financial **** ** ****** ** ***

*******, *** ***** ****** **** "***** on *** ******* **********" *********/***** ******* "may ** ****** ** **** ***** in *** ******" ***** ***** "*********** removal", ********* *****:

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****** ***** *** ** ******* ********** *** ** ****** ** *** FCC.

CCTV **** ***** ***************

******* ************ ******** ******** ******** ****, the ***** ****** *** "**** ** using ***** ******** ****** ** ********** alongside ********* *** ********* **********".

*** ***** ***** **** ******* ****** do "* **** **** **********" ****** using *** ********* ********* ******* "********* from *** ********* ******'* ****** ****** a ***** *********" ** **** ****** officials "** ****** **** *** ********* risks **** **** **********".

Future ********* **** ** ********** ******** ********

*** ***** **** ** ** ** "close *******" "*** * ********* ** this" **** *** ** **********'*********** *** ************ ****** ************(***** "******* *********** ***** *** ** surveillance ****** *******" ** *********** ** England *** *****) *** ************** ************’* ******, *** **'* **** ********** ********* which ******** ****. ** ***** *** government ******** **** * ******* ********* on *********/***** *****, **** **** ***** well ** *** ***** **** ******* a ****** ** ********** ***/************.

** ******* ***** ************

*********'* ****** ************** *** ** ************ **** *************** ** ******* *** ***** *** not ******* ** ****'* ******* *** comment.

** ******* ******* ******** ******** ***********

*** **** (******* ******** ******** ***********) did *** ******* ** * ******* for *******. ******: **** **** "** are ********* ******* **** **** *** are *** ***** ** ******* * statement", *** *** ***** *** ************ ********* *** ****** ***********.

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**** **** ****** *** ** ********* as **** ********* ********.

UPDATE: ***** ********

***** ********* **** *** ********* *********, posted ******** *****:

** ******* *** *****’* ***** ** offer ****** ** *** **********. *******, CCTV **** ***** ******* ****** **** that *** ***** ***** ******** ********* Dahua *** ******* ** ** ******* clarifying *********** ****** ******** **** ******. Had **** **** **, **** ***** have ***** **** ***** *** ****** flatly ****** *********** ** **** ********* products ** ********* **** ****** *** specific ****** *****. **** ***** **** note **** *** ******* ** *** owned ** ********** ** *** ******* government *** ****, ** ****, ** are * ******* ******, ******** ****** global *********** *********** ** *** ************, employees *** *********. *******, *** ** been ***** ** *********** ** ***** have ****** ** *** ****** **** security ******** ** **** ** ***** to ******* *** ********* ** **** data ** *** ** *** ********** else ** *******. ***** ********** *** concerns **** ** *** ************ **** in *** **** ** **********, *** fundamentally ********** ***********. ** ****** ** address ***** ******** ******* *** *********** and *******, *** ******* ******* ** efforts ** ******* *** ******, ********* through * ****** ******** ** *** FCC ********* *** ******** **** ******. We ************ *** *** ********* *** business ******** ** *** ** *** elsewhere ** ***** ** ** **** substantive *****, ****** **** ** *** basis ** ********, ***** ** *********** driven **** ** *********** **** *** concrete *******, ************ ** ******** *************.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 07/06/21 12:44pm

*** *** ******, ************ *** *** most ********* ** ********* ** ********* and ***** ***** *** ***** *** comment ** *** **** **** *****'* Statement.

***** ******, *** ***, *********:

** **** ******** ** **** ******* not ** **** * ******* ** this ********* ** * ********

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*** ******, ***** *** ********* ***** ******** at ****** *** *** *******. **** year ****** *** ******* ** *****'* human ****** ******* ********,******:

* **** ******* ** **** ******* anyway. *** ********* *** ** *** UK ******** (*** ** **** ***** Coding) *** *** ********* *** ********* we ******* ** *******. ** **** control **** **’* ** ** ***** regions

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 07/06/21 12:55pm

***, ****** ************ ** *** **** ** **** on ********:

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**** ******** ******** ****** ******* *** Oprema's ********** ** ***** **** ******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 07/07/21 02:51am

"**** ******** ******** ****** ******* *** Oprema's ********** ** ***** **** ******."

*** **** ** * ***** ************ attitude. * ******* **. ** **** for *** ***** ****** ** ** china. ** ***** *** ***** ***** rights ****** ** **** **. ****, stop ********** ******* ****, ****, *******, shoes, *** *****, **********, **********, *** computer ***'** ***** ** ******** **** blog, *** **** ***** *** *** to *********. **** ** *** ******* you ***. ****, ** ***'* **** from *** *** ******......

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 07/07/21 12:17pm

** ****** '** ***** *** ***** human ****** ******', ******* *** *** being ********* ** ***.

**** ** **** ** ****** *** is:

- ***** *** ***** ***** ****** abuses ************? *** **** ** ****** assume ********** **** ** *** *** is * ***** ****** *****.

- **** *** ***** **** ** correct ***** ***** ****** ******? **** American ********* **** *** ****** ***** to ******* **** ** ***** *** Hikvision *** ****** ** ******** ******* their ******** *** **** *** ***** of *******.

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In reply to John Honovich | 07/07/21 12:51pm

** *** ******, *******, ** *******, specifically ****** *** ************, ********** ********** an *****? ** ** , *******, if ***, ***** *** *****. **** goes *** ***** ********* ***** ***** hunted. ** * ******* **** ******* to **** ******* **** **** ********* abuses, ** ****. ** **** *******, themselves *** ********** *** ******, **** them ****.

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In reply to John Honovich | 07/08/21 06:56pm

"** ****** '** ***** *** ***** human ****** ******', ******* *** *** being ********* ** ***."

** *** ***. * ***** **** less ***** *** *** *** ***** human ****** ****** ** *** ****** and **** *** *** ****** *** be ********* ** ** **. * could **** **** **** ***** *** social ********** ** ********* ********* *** PRC **** ********** **** *** *** is ** *** ** ***** ** more *********** ** **** *********** ******* their **********. **** ***** ******** ** any **** **** *** *** ** any **** *** *** ***** **** less ***. *** * ** ******* the **** **** *** *** ***** ethics ** ******** *** ***** ******** the ******** *****. *** **** **** credibility **** ** ** *** ** I'm ********* ********* ****** ************ ******** to *** ***.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to John Honovich | 07/08/21 01:57pm

*** ******, ***** *** ********* ***** director

****** *** ******* *** ******** ******* as ***** ** ******, ***** ** published **** * **** ***.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 07/08/21 06:40pm

"****** *** ******* *** ******** ******* as ***** ** ******, ***** ** published **** * **** ***."

**** *** ****. **** ***** ** construed ** ********** **********.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 07/08/21 06:41pm

** ****** ******* ** “*****” ** Oprema ** ********, * ********** ******** what ** ******* ** **, **** is **********?

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 07/08/21 06:43pm

"** ****** ******* ** “*****” ** Oprema ** ********, * ********** ******** what ** ******* ** **, **** is **********?"

* *** ***.

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Donald Maye

07/06/21 07:28pm

******: ***** ********

***** ********* **** *** ********* ********* to ****, ****** ******** *****:

** ******* *** *****’* ***** ** offer ****** ** *** **********. *******, CCTV **** ***** ******* ****** **** that *** ***** ***** ******** ********* Dahua *** ******* ** ** ******* clarifying *********** ****** ******** **** ******. Had **** **** **, **** ***** have ***** **** ***** *** ****** flatly ****** *********** ** **** ********* products ** ********* **** ****** *** specific ****** *****. **** ***** **** note **** *** ******* ** *** owned ** ********** ** *** ******* government *** ****, ** ****, ** are * ******* ******, ******** ****** global *********** *********** ** *** ************, employees *** *********. *******, *** ** been ***** ** *********** ** ***** have ****** ** *** ****** **** security ******** ** **** ** ***** to ******* *** ********* ** **** data ** *** ** *** ********** else ** *******. ***** ********** *** concerns **** ** *** ************ **** in *** **** ** **********, *** fundamentally ********** ***********. ** ****** ** address ***** ******** ******* *** *********** and *******, *** ******* ******* ** efforts ** ******* *** ******, ********* through * ****** ******** ** *** FCC ********* *** ******** **** ******. We ************ *** *** ********* *** business ******** ** *** ** *** elsewhere ** ***** ** ** **** substantive *****, ****** **** ** *** basis ** ********, ***** ** *********** driven **** ** *********** **** *** concrete *******, ************ ** ******** *************.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

In reply to Donald Maye | 07/07/21 06:28am

***** *** ****** ****** ****** *********** of **** ********* ******** ** ********* that ****** *** ******** ****** *****

**** *** ***** ****** *** *** absence ** *********. *** **** *** that.

*** ******* ** *** ***** ** controlled ** *** ******* **********

*** ******* ********** *****'* ***** **.

****** **** ******** ******** ** **** in ***** ** ******* *** ********* of **** ****

**** **** ****** ** *** ******** security ******** ******* *** ********* (*********** or *************) *******...

* **** ***** ******** *******, ***** you *****.

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Undisclosed Distributor #1

07/06/21 07:49pm

*** ** **** ******* ******* **** in ********* ** **** * *****. ASIAL - *** *** ********? ** are *** *** **** ****** **** own *******

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #1 | 07/07/21 02:55am

"** *** *** *** **** ****** your *** *******"

*** **** ****** ******. ***#* ***'** ethical *****? ****...

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Undisclosed Distributor #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 07/08/21 08:59pm

*** ******* **** *** **** ** 'ethical', *** * ** **** ** own ******** ********* ***** * ***** by. * ****** ** ********

** **** ** **** ** ** selling **** *******, ******* * ********** refuse ** ***** **, **** ** is *** **** ******* *** ****** I ******. ******* * ** ********** I *** ** ******** *** ** use ****** *** ***** *******

* ******** ******** * *** ***** from * ******* *** **** * would ********** **** ** ****, *** it *** ** **** *****, **% more **** **** * ** ** now. ******* ** *** ********* **** they **** ***** ** ***** ***** one ** ***** * ********. ***** what, * ******** *** ***** ******* of ****. * **** **** *** time ** ******* ** **** ***, as * ***** *** ******* ** personal *********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Distributor #1 | 07/08/21 09:27pm

"*** ******* **** *** **** ** 'ethical', *** * ** **** ** own ******** ********* ***** * ***** by. * ****** ** ********"

***'* *****, *** ** **** ****** weren't ***** ******** **********. ***'** ******** a **** ****** ****** ** ** a *** *****(**** *** *** ** being ********* ******) ********* ** ** offended. **** ***** *** ****** *** on *** ************ ********.

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Undisclosed Distributor #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 07/08/21 09:32pm

** ******* ****. * ** ****** hard ** ******. ******* * *** feel ** *********** ** ******* ** position ** ** **** ****** *** one *****, *** ** *******.

************* * *** ** *** ** & ** *** ** *** ******* to ** ********* ********** ***** *** risks ***** ** ***** *********, ** all * *** ** ** ******* to ******* ****** ** ** *** little ***, *** *** ** **** by ******* ******** * ***.

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John Honovich

IPVM | 07/06/21 09:07pm

*************, * *** ***** ****** ** **** **** ***** **** shared**** *** ** *** ******** *****:

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In reply to John Honovich | 07/07/21 02:53am

******* *** ** ** **** ****** ethical, *****?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 07/07/21 12:18pm

*** ******* ******* *** ********* **** ethics, **'* **** **** ********** **** they ******** *****. ** *** **** or ***** ****** ***** ********** ***** it ***** ** ******** *** ** SIA ** *****, ** ***** *** obvious *** ****** ** **** **.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 07/07/21 12:53pm

"*** ******* ******* *** ********* **** ethics, **'* **** **** ********** **** they ******** *****. "

**** ** * ************ ******. **** are *********** ******** ********* ********* ** doing **. **** *****'* **** **** any ******.

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07/07/21 09:03am

*** ******* ***** ******* *** ***** that ** * *** * ***** camera ***** ** *** ** **** back **** *** ************ **** ****** China? ** **** ** ****** *** case ****** ****** ** ** ***** I *** **** **** ** ** doing. * ********** **** ***** ******** had ******** **** ******* *** *********** etc *** * **** ** *** where ** ** ***** ** ***** the *** **** **.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 07/07/21 12:21pm

#*, ***** *** ******** *********, *******, vulnerabilities ** ***** ********. ** ****** a ********** ****** ** ** ***** last *****. ********** **** ** ***** this ****.

**** ****** ****, ******, ** *** issue ** ***** **** ** ***** suppliers. ****, ***** ** ***** ** fix ***** ****** ***** ** ******** researcher ****** **** ** ** (*** Dahua ***** ** **** ******* **** disclosed) *** *** ******** ** ** you ***** *** ***** ** *** going ** **** **** ** ***** going *******?

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Undisclosed Integrator #4

In reply to John Honovich | 07/07/21 03:09pm

***** * ***’* ***** **** *********, Chinese ** ***. *** *** ********** spies ** **, ********* *** ***** do ** ****. * **** **** to **** **** **** ********* **** a *** *** ** *** *** device **** ***** ** ************* ***** to ***** *** *** ** ********** it. * ** ***** ******* **** if **** ****** *** ** *********** by *** *** **** *** *** government ***** ** *** ******* *** same ******** ** *** ** ******* China ** ** ****** **. *********** today ********* **** ********. * **** want ** **** **** ******* *************** are **** ***** **** ****?

** ***** *** ******* ******** ** any *** *** ** *** *** devices **** *** *** ****** ** to ** * *** *** *** facts ** *** **** ***** **** are ***** ***** *********?

* ***’* ***** ************ ***** ** why * ** *** * *** to ***** *** ************ ***** ******* have. * ** ***** ****** ******* can ******* *** * *** ****** camera ** * ***** ******** ******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4 | 07/08/21 09:10pm

"* ** ***** ****** ******* *** explain *** * *** ****** ****** is * ***** ******** ******. "

*** *** ****** ****** ** *** the ******; *** ***/*** **** *** operational ** *****/****** ******* ****** * flawed/compromised ********* ******, **** *** *** camera ******** **, ** *** ******. The *******-**** *** ** ********** * trusted ******* ****** *** ** ***********, may *** ** * ***** *** secure ****** ** * ******** ******* and ******* *********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2

In reply to John Honovich | 07/08/21 09:18pm

"#*, ***** *** ******** *********, *******, vulnerabilities ** ***** ********. ** ****** a ********** ****** ** ** ***** last *****. ********** **** ** ***** this ****."

***'* ****, ******** **** **** *** wild ***. **** *** ******* ****** via **** *** **** ** ** via ***. *** ******** **** **** you ******. **** **** *** ***. There's ******* ** "***" **** *****'* broken ** ***** ****. **** **** purposefully ********** **** *** ********* *** call ***************. **** *** **** *********** to *** ****. *** ***** *** certainly *** ***** **** *** ****** alterations **** **** **** **** ****** are. ***, *** ***** ********** ** not *** **** ********** **** ** making *** ** ***** ********* **** you **** *************** *** ****'** *** the **** **** **** *** ********** from **** ***** *******.

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Undisclosed Distributor #1

In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2 | 07/08/21 09:25pm

***'* ****, ******** **** **** *** wild ***.

****** * ********** ****** *** ******** and ***** ****** ***** ********** ******** I **** **** **** ** ***** the '*****' ***** ** ********* **** practice *** ******** ******* *****.

**** ********, **** *** ***** ** the ***** ***** ** *** ***** party *** *** **** *** **** closer ** ***** ****.

**, ** *** ** ******* ***

***** ****** ** **************, ****************** **. **** ** ******* **** he *****, ******* *** *** ** his **** ******.

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