Bosch Starlight 8000i Cameras Tested

By Rob Kilpatrick, Published Jul 23, 2019, 10:30am EDT

Bosch has released their new Flexidome IP Starlight 8000i cameras, claiming "exceptional detail even in extreme low-light situations."

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To see how these models perform, we bought and tested the 1080p NDE-8502-R and the 4K UHD NDE8504-R examining:

  • How well does the PTRZ work? How does it impact setup?
  • How does the camera perform in full light, low light (1-2 lux), and dark (<0.1 lux) conditions?
  • What is bandwidth consumption in these scenarios?
  • Does motion in low light have any tradeoffs or issues?
  • How well do Bosch's included IVA analytics work?

This is the first in a series of high-end 4K camera testing, with Avigilon, Axis, Dahua, Hanwha, Hikvision and more coming soon. Let us know what other 4K cameras we should test.

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** *** *******, *** Bosch ********* ** ********* 8000i ** ******* *** several *** *********:

  • ******** **** ***** *** low ***** ***** *******:*** ******* ************ ***** Bosch ** *** ***** models ** *** *******, offering **** ******* ** longer ********* ** *** full ***** (~*****) *** low ***** (~***) *****.
  • ****** ****** ***** ****** PTRZ:*** *******' ****** ***/****/****/**** feature **** ****** *** cameras ****, ** *** cameras *** ** ******** aimed **** *** *** interface ** ***** ******* Assistant ***, ******* ******* to ********** ** ** the ****** ** ******** adjust.
  • ****** ********* ***** *** Similar ***********:********* ***** ** **** complex **** **** **********, as ****** ****** *** automatically **** ***** ***** PTRZ ** ****** *** camera's **** *** **** screen **** ************* *******, with ****** ****** *** only ***** ******** **** users.
  • ***** *** ***********:*** *********** ** *** 4K ***** ****** *** similar ** *****'* **** generation, ***** *** ***** model ******** ****** ******* of ******** **** ******* strong ********* *** ** darker ***** ** *** scene.

*******, ***** **** *** key *********:

  • ******** ** *** ***** conditions:** *** ***** (~* lux) ******* *** ********** digital ***** ******** *** subject, ****** **** ***** pattern *** *** **** the *******'* **** ** other ******* **** ******** issues ******** ** (*.*.,***** ***** ***********). ***** ** **** not ******* ******* ***** quality, ** ** ****** to ***** ********** ******** about *** **********.
  • **** **** ***** *******:** **** **** ****** (~0.02lx), ***** ******* *** poor, **** ** ******* of *** *******, **** at cameras *** **** **** there *** ******* ********, for ***** **** ** ambient ********, *** ******* will ******** ** ******* details. *** ******* ** not ******* ** ****** Bosch ************ **** *** planned *** ****** ********.

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*** ***** ********* ***** 1080p ***** (***-****-*) *** be ***** ****** *** ~$1,000 ***. **** ******* is ******** ***** **** Axis' *********** ***** **** model, *** *****-** (~$*,*** online), *** ************* **** than ****** ***** ** not ******* **** **** as ****' *****-*** (~$***) or ********* **-*********-**** (~$*** online).

*** ** ***-****-* *** be ***** *** ~$*,***, similar ** *******. ***** are ***, ** ***, 4K **** *********** ******, but **** ******* ** similar ** ****' ***-**** Axis *****-*** (~$*,*** ******) and ************* ********* **-*********-**** (~$800).

Size **********

*** ***** ****** ** similar ** **** *** form ****** ** ***** vandal *****, **** ** the **** *** *** Hikvision * ******, ***** below. **** **** *** Bosch ******* ******* * short (~*') ***** **** preattached, *** ** *** be ******* *** ****** directly *********.

Size Compared To Competitive Outdoor Domes

Physical ********

****** ******* *****, ***** do *** **** ** remove *** ***** ******' cover ** ***** ** aim/focus *** ******, ***** all ******** *** ** performed ******** ***** ***/****/****/**** controls. ******* ** ****, the *******' **** ** held ** **** **** screws ***** *** *** intended ** ** *******, as ***** *** ** user ******** ******. ***** user-accessible ******** **** ** SD *****, */*, *** PoE *** ******** *** the **** ** *** camera.

** **** ** ***** features ** **** *****:

PTRZ *********** / ********* ********

*** ***** ****** ** Bosch's ***** ***** ** include ****** *********** **** control (***/****/****/****). ***** *** adjust *** *********** ** the ****** ****** ** clicking *** ******'* *** in *** *** *********. After ******, *** ****** automatically **-****** ******.

** *********** **** ******* in *** ***** *****.

** ********, ***** ******, camera ******** **** ** automatically **** *** **** to ********* *********, ******** manual *****, ***** ** discuss *****.

Bosch ******* ********* ***

** ******** ** ***** the *** ********* ** the ******, ***** **** offers * ****** *** (Bosch ******* *********) ***** allows ***** ************* ** imaging ********, ** **** as ******* ** **** and *****. ***** *** re-aim *** ****** ****** by ******* ** *** screen ** *** ** use *** ****** ******* for ***** *******.

************, *** ***** ****** contains *****-** ******** ******** and ****** * ******* which *** ** **** for ***** ** **** camera. ***** *** **** a ** **** ** the ****** ** *** box ** ***** *** Project ********* *** ** connect ** **** ******* for ***** ** ******* manually (***** *****).

Low ***** *********** (~*-* ***)

** *** *** ***** scene (~*-***) **** ********* 8000i ******* ************ **** generation ***** *******, ***** at ~**' ******** *****. Both ***** ******* **** clear ****** ******* *** clearer ****** ** *** test ***** **** **** 4K *** ***** ********* models.

8000i Better Low Light Performance Than Past Bosch Models 20

******** *** ******** ** ~40' (**/~** ***, *****/~** PPF) **** ***** ****** cameras ***** ******* ****** chart ******* **** **** models, ****** **** ***** facial ******* *** *********, with *** ***** ****** moderately ******** **** **.

8000i Better Low Light Performance Than Past Bosch Models 40

Low ***** ******** ****** *******

** *** *****, **** cameras ******** **** ******* artifact ****** ** *** light, ****** ** **** levels ** ******* ***** reduction, ***** *****.

***** **** **** ***** trails *** **** ** their *********** ********* ********, which *********** ******* ***** reduction ** ****** ******* while ********** ** ** static ********** *****, *** they ***** *** **** details ** ****** ******* should ****** *****.*** *******, in *** **** *****, the *******'* **** ******** clearly ******* *** *** obscured ** ***** ****** (shown *****), ****** ***** models ***** ** **** tested, **** *******'* ***** ***********, ***** **** ********' faces, ** ****.

Motion Artifact Comparison Bosch Starlight 8000i Vs  Speco Ultra Intensifier3

*******, **** ***** *** simply *** ***** ****** as * **** ** "poor" ***** *******, ** similar ******* **** **** associated **** ******** *** slower *******.

***** ****** ***** ** reduced ** ********** ** reducing ******** ***** ********* manually. *** *******, ******** it ** *** ******* (-15), ** ****** **** visible ****** *** *******, but *** ****** ***** suffered **** ********* ******* noise, ******** *******:

Poor **** ***********

** * **** ***** (~0.02lx, **/*** ***, *****/~** PPF) *** ** ***-****-* provides **** ********* ** the ******* *** **** lines ** *** ***** are *******. *** ***** NDE-8502-R ****** ****** ****** details *** **** ***** of *** ***** *** legible.

Images Weak Below 1 Lux

Full ***** ***********

** **** ***** (~*****) at ~**'(**/~** ***, *****/~** ***)**** ** ******* ******* similarly, ******** *** **** facial/chart *******, ****** *** 8000i ***** ** ********** better *******. *** ***** 8000i ******, *** ***-****-* outperforms *** ***-*****-***, **** better ******* *** ********.

Full Light Detail Comparison 40

****, ** ~**' (**/~** PPF, *****/~** ***), *********** is ******* ** ******* distances.

Full Light Detail Comparison 60

WDR ***********

** ****** *** ******'* WDR *********** ** ******* of ~*,*** *** **** indoor *** ~**, * variance ** ~***, ***** here:

WDR Test Scene

*** *********** ** *** 4K ***** *** ******* to *** ***** ********** Bosch ** *****, ******** darker ******* ****** *********, but **** ****** ***. The ***** ***** ***** provided ****** ******* **** the **** ******** **** *** ******* and ***-******* ***** ** the *****.

*** ***** ******* ******* two *** *****, **** and *******. ** *** test ***** ***** *** little ********** ******* *** two, **** ******* *********** against ********* ** **** interior ***** ** *** scene. ** **** ******* testing ** ***** ***** in ******* ****** ** part ** ***** ******** ****.

IVA ***********

** *** *** ***** models, ** ******** ** the **** ***, * dedicated **** ********* *** memory *** ******** *** IVA *********. ** ****** the ********* ** ********** to ******* **** ** ***** IVA *********.

***** *** *********** ************ ****** ** *** past *******, ******** ****** ***** alerts **** ** ******* trees, ******, *** *******, while ********** ********* ****** and ******** ** *** scene.

**** **** ***** ***** recommends **** *** ****** is ********** ******** ** get *** **** ******** 3D ******** *********. **** plan ** *** ********* camera *********** *** *** 8000i ****** ***** ********** line *** ******** ** only ******** ****** ** required ** ** ****.

Smart ***** ********* ***********

*** ***** ****** ******** H.265 ********* ** **** as *****'* "*********** *********", which *********** ******* ******* noise ********* *** ********* in *** ***** ** reduce *******. ** *** tests, **** ** *** 1080p ******** **** ***** than ******* ******** ** competitive ******.

**** **** ***** ************ were ***** **** ******** motion ** *** *****, with ******** ******* **** the ******.

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Comments (6)

Being new to the site...........is there a location one can go to see the native video/Pic resolutions of the 4K and 1080P 8000i camera?  

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Great test/report!  There are some good features on this camera, but I have to wonder why Bosch chose not to include integrated IR, especially given other competitors' similar models that do.  Did Bosch provide any information on when the IR models would be released? 

I'm definitely looking forward to IPVMs upcoming 4K shootout!

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Bosch said they had plans to introduce IR models in this series (currently there are integrated IR models in 4000/5000/6000 series), but did not give a date. To be fair to Bosch, no other manufacturer I'm aware of with PTRZ functionality also include IR. The Axis Q36 and Hanwha Wisenet X Plus models with PTRZ are all non-IR.

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We added a note to the report on the 8000i series' built in Wireless SSID functions. Several manufacturers offer add-on USB adapters for aiming similar to this, but few build this capability in as Bosch as:

The 8000i series contains built-in wireless adapters and create a network which may be used for setup at each camera. Users may scan a QR code on the camera or its box to using the Project Assistant app to connect to this network for setup or connect manually (shown below).

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What SoC does this camera use? Do y'all have a list of cameras that are NDAA compliant with no Hisilicon chips? That information is hard to find.

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It's Ambarella S3L I believe. That is what CPP (Common Product Platform) 7.3 stands for.

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