Bosch EOLing Many Models, Citing Undisclosed NDAA Component Risks

By Ethan Ace and Conor Healy, Published Oct 25, 2021, 12:18pm EDT (Info+)

Bosch is discontinuing multiple camera lines "in light of NDAA requirements", even though they do not use banned Huawei SoCs, Bosch confirmed to IPVM, opening a new chapter in risks of NDAA enforcement.

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In this report, we examine Bosch's decision and official statement, models which are/are not impacted, detailed component images from a covered model, questions to Motorola / Avigilon, Axis, and Hanwha, plus potential impact on the industry.

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**** ******** ****** ***** ** **** split ******* ***** ***-**** ***** **** and ******* **** (*****) *** ***-***** PTZs (*****/*****/*****), *********** ******** *** ******** of *****'* ***-**** ***** *** *** models.

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Components *** *********

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Motorola / ******** ********

******** **** **** * ***** ******** stating:

*** ********, ***** *** ********** ******** have ** ******* **********. ************, ** are ********* ********* *** *********** ******** in *** ***** ********* ** ********* possible *** ** ******* **********. ** anticipate ******** ** **** **** ****** the *** ** *** ****.

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Axis ********

**** ******** **** "**** ******** *** compliant **** ****," ********** **** ***** were "** **********" **** *** ******* company ** **** ********.

Hanwha ********

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****** (**/**/**): ****** ********* **** **** Huawei ********* *** ******* ** *** 2 ****** ***** ************, *** ** other ******* ********** *** **** ** any ** ***** ********.

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**** **** ** ***** ****** *** possibility ** * ***** *** ***** of ******** **** ********. ***** *** focus ***** *** *** **** ** equipment **** *****/********* *** **** **** Huawei, ***** ********** *** ********* ** covered ** *** ****.

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What **********?

** ****** ***** ** *** * theory ***** **** ******* ********** (******* of ****** ********* ****) ***** ** used ** ***** ** ***** ***** surveillance ********, ****** ******* ***** ** email ** ************** ******@****.***.

Update (**/**/**): Hanwha confirmed that only Huawei HiSilicon are present in the 2 models being discontinued, and no other covered components are used in any of their products.

Comments (26)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

10/25/21 05:01pm

*** ***** **** ** ********* ** their **** ******* ****** *****, ***** instead ** ********* *** ***** **** will ******* **** ******, **** *** Avigilon (*** ****).

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 10/25/21 05:02pm

** *******, **** *** ******* ** releasing *** ****** *** **** *** have ***** ** ******* ** **** they *** ***** ** ** ********. So, ** ****** **** **** ** the ***** **** *** **** ** not **** ******* *** *****-****** ******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

In reply to John Honovich | 10/25/21 05:18pm

***** *** ****** **** ** ******.

* *** **** ***** *** ** market *** * ********* ****** **** a ****** ********** **** ***** ****** with ***** **** *** **** ***** that ** *** ** ** **** of ***** ******** ****’* ****** ******** with **.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 10/25/21 05:26pm

***:***** ************ ********** ****. ***** ** ********* **** ********* but *** **** ** ****** ********* has ************ **** ** * ***-****** in *** *** ******* ******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

In reply to John Honovich | 10/25/21 05:30pm

** ***** * ****** *********** ******* favorability *** ***** ******?

*** ** ***** ** ***** *** be ******* ** **** **** ****?

** ***** *** **** ******* *** Hikvision ***** ** *** ** ******** right?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 10/25/21 05:35pm

***** *** * ******* *********. ************ is * ******* ***. ***** ***** you **** ****** ****** ** *** immediate **** ***** ** ***** ** historical *************** *** *************. ************ ****** indicates *** ********* **** ***** ** the ******.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #1

In reply to John Honovich | 10/25/21 08:38pm

** **** **** ******* ** *** you ****** ** **** **** ** a ****?

******* *** ************ ** ****—***** * think * *** ****** ****** *** mostly ***** **** *** *** ** 30+—if *** *** * ************ **** on *** *****, ** *** *** Video ** ****** * *** **** people ***** **** ********* ** ***** good **’ *** *****, *** **** doesn’t **** ****’** ******* *** ***** days.

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 10/25/21 09:10pm

* *** **** ****** ***** **** favorably ** ***** **** **’ *** tapes…

*** **. **** **** ** ******** tech **** *** *.

*** ***** *** **** * *****, I ** **** “******* ** *****” from **** ** *** ***.

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******** “***********” :)

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 10/25/21 10:20pm

* ** ******** ***** *** ****-*** of ****** "**** *** *** ** 30" ***** **% ** *** ****** who *** ** **** ***** ******** are **** *** *** ** **. So *** *** ****** **** **** accurately ******** *** ************ ** *** buys *** ***** ***** ********?

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Guilherme Barandas

In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #1 | 10/26/21 12:05am

**** ****** ******* *** *******.

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Undisclosed #2

10/25/21 05:35pm

*** *** ******* *** **** ** the ***** *********?

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #2 | 10/25/21 05:36pm

*********, ** ***** ***** *** * link / ****** *********, *** **** said ** *** *** *********. ** will ***** ***** ** ** ** available *** ** ** / **** it ** *****.

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Conor Healy

IPVMU Certified | 10/25/21 05:55pm

Update (**/**/**): Hanwha confirmed that only Huawei HiSilicon are present in the 2 models being discontinued, and no other covered components are used in any of their products.

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IPVMU Certified | 10/25/21 06:01pm

**** **** ** ***** ****** *** possibility ** * ***** *** ***** of ******** **** ********. ***** *** focus ***** *** *** **** ** equipment **** *****/********* *** **** **** Huawei, ***** ********** *** ********* ** covered ** *** ****.

***, *** * ********* ******** (** such * ***** *******) ****, ***** likely ** *******, ** ** **** seem ******* **** ** ***** **** a ****** ****** *** ** ****.

**’* *** ****-*****************:)

******* ***** ********** ****** *** ‘**’ but **** ******** ******* ***** ***** were **********?

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IPVMU Certified | 10/25/21 06:10pm

**** **’* ***** ******* ** *** SOC ** ********** *********, **** ******* an *********** ****** *** ******** **** is *** ****** ** ************* ******.

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IPVMU Certified | 10/25/21 06:17pm

***** ** ** **** ***** ********* them *** ***** ***’* ** ***** business **** * ******* *******?

***** ******* ***** *** *****'* ********, non-Chinese ***, **********, ******, ***. *** they *** ******** / ********* ** a ***** *******.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 10/25/21 06:22pm

****'* *** *** ***** ****. ** you *****, **** *** ** ***** previously *** ***** ******* *** *** being **** ** ***** *****.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

In reply to John Honovich | 10/28/21 01:14am

* *** ******* ** *** *** photos ** *** ** *** ** the ***** ******* ******* *** *****....

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5 | 10/28/21 12:29pm

**** *** *** **** ***? ****'* why ** ****** *** ***** ****** in **** ******* ******* *********.

**********, ********* **** ******* ********* ** there ***** *****'* *********** ****.

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Chalon Dilber

10/26/21 01:50am

**** ****** **** ** ********* *****-***, end ** **** **** ******** **** with *** **** ** * **********, and ***** ******** *** **********, ******. Not ** ******* * ***** ***** to ****** *** *********** ******* ****...

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IPVMU Certified | In reply to Chalon Dilber | 10/26/21 03:43am

**** ****** **** ** ********* *****-***, end ** **** **** ******** **** with *** **** ** * **********, and ***** ******** *** **********, ******. Not ** ******* * ***** ***** to ****** *** *********** ******* ****...

****, **** **** ******** *************** ****.

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John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 10/26/21 11:40am

******, ** #* ******,*** ***** ***** (******)** ******** ******** *** ********* ***** well, ** *** **** **** *** EOLing **** ** ****** ********.

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Chalon Dilber

In reply to Undisclosed #3 | 10/28/21 04:19pm

*** **, * *************; * *** under *** ********** **** **** **** planning ** ****** * *********** ****.

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In reply to Chalon Dilber | 10/28/21 04:27pm

***** **** **** *** ******** ** releasing * *********** ****. ****** *** not **** ****** ***.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

10/27/21 09:22pm

****'* *** *******. **** **** *** give ********* ** **** *** "******* components". ** ****, **** **** ** not **** ****. "******** & *********" is *** **** ****. ***'* *** housing ******** & *********? **** ***** the ****? *** ***** *** ****** that **** ********** ********?

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Undisclosed #3

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4 | 10/27/21 09:37pm

****'* *** *******. **** **** *** give ********* ** **** *** "******* components".

**’* ******** **** ** *** ****** manufacturers, ******

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**, ****** **, **** **, *** not **.

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