***** ** *** ** *** ******* names ** ********* *** ***** *-****** panels, ******** ** ******* **** ******** and ********* ******* ************, *** ********** new *** ********* *********.
** ****** ****** ***** ******** ***** ******* ******** *** *** ** ****** ******* competitors.
** **** ****, ** ******* *** system ** **** ********:
- ********* & **********
- *********** **********
- ************ ************
- ******** ********
- ****** *******
- ****** *****
- ****** ******** ***
- ********** *******
******, ** ****** *** ******* **** contrast *** *-****** ** ***** ********* panel ***** ********* ***** *******.
****: ** *** **** ****, ** cover *** ***** *-******.
Strengths ********
*** **** ******** ***** *-****** *** some *********** **********, ********** ******** ** other ***** ****** ** *** *********** market:
- ******* ******** & *** *****: *** *-****** ******** **** ********** ******* and *** ***** *** ********* ******** connections ** **-***** **********. ***** **** panels ***** **** ** ****** **** a ******** ******, *** *-****** ******** this ** *******. ** *** ****, the *** ****** ****** * ******, 'configureless' ********** ** *** *****. **** feature ******** ********** *** ******* ****** from ********* ***** ** ********* ** the *****.
- **** ******* *******:**** '*****' ********* ******* ******** ********* and *********** ** *** ****** ** stripping **** ************* *******. ****** ******* like**** *** *********** *** ******, *-****** ****** ******** ******** ** *******, input ***** ** *****, *********** ****, and ********** ********* **** *********** *******, heavily ********** ********* *******.
- '****' ***** ***********:*** **** *******, '******' *********** **** intrusion ******* *** ******* ** * few ***** *** ********** ******* *** use ******* ***-** ***** ******* ** integrate *****. ****-****** ******** **** (***** *** ***** models)******* ** **** ***** *** * Bosch ** ******. ***** *** *********** is ******* ** **** ***** *******, the **** ***** ** ******* *** be **** *** ****** ****** ****** for ***** ****** *********.
Weaknesses ********
*******, *** **** ***** *** *-****** has **** ********* ******** ** ********* competitors:
- ****-********* *******: ******* ******** * *-****** ******, even * ***** ***, ***** **** and ********* ** **** ******** *** install. *** ***** ** *******, ***********, and ************** ****** *** ****** ******* and '**** & ****' ************* **** not ** *******.
- **** ********* ***** ********:** *******, * ****-****** ********* ******* for * '**** *** **' ****** to ******* ******* *** **** ** the **** *** ** ****** ***** to ** *********** ** *** ****** of ************* ******* *** ********* *********** needed ** ***** ********* * *-****** system.
- ***-******** *****:****** **** ***** ********* ***** ***** systems, *** ***** ** ***** ** 16 ***** *** ** *****. ******* of ********* *** ****-********* *******, *** B3512 **** ** ******** **** ******* larger ***** ** ******* ****** **** small ****.
- *** ******** ** *******:**** ***** ********* ******* *** ********** look *** ******** ******* ** ***** and ******* ****** *******. ***** *-****** does ************* ********, ***** *** **** ******* ******** and ************ ********* ******* **** *** both **** *** ****.
- ** **** ********** ** *******: ** **** ********, *** *-****** lacks ******* *********** ** ******* ** Z-Wave ** ****** ******* *******. ************* ******* *** *********, ********** **** **** **** *** complexity ** * ****** ***** *********** often ******* **** ** *******, **: *** ** ****.
Competitive **********
** ***** ** ******** *** ******** design, *-****** ** ** *** ****-*** of ***** ********* ********* **** **** configuration, ***** ***** ***********, *** ***** fire/smoke ********* ******, *** ****** ********* optimized *** *********** ********, * *-****** ****** requires ********** ******** *** ********** *******, and *** ****** ************* ***** **** time ** ****.
***** *-****** ** ****** ******* ***** to ***** ***** ********* *******, **** the panel ******* **** **** *** ******* keypad. *** ***** ***** *** * ****** price ** ~$***, ***** *** **** keypad ****** ** ~$***. *** ***** features ****** ** ***** ** ***** residential ********* *********, *-****** **** ** cost *********** ** ******** *****.
*******, *** ** ***** ** ***** installing ***** ******* ** ** **** automation ** *******, *** *** **** kits, ***** ******* ** ***** *********, will ** **** ********* *** ***** intrusion *******.
B-Series **** ************
********, ***** ********* *****-****** ***** ** ********* **** ************, * ****** **** *** ******** dealer-only *****. ***** ******* ** *** smaller *-****** ****, ***** ** ***** limiting *** ****** *-****** ******** ** sales *** ******* ** ******* *******.
Test ****** *******
*** *-****** ***** **** ****** *** composed ** ******* *****, *** * ***** *********** ************** **** * **** *******, *** an *** ** ********* ******* ********* a ***** **** **** ********* ****** ********.
** ****, **** ********** *** *** sold **** *********** ********* ****, *** the *****, *******, ******(*), *** *********. Users *** ********** **** **** ** specify *** *** *** ****** **********.
Physical ********
*** ***** ** ** **-**** ****** ***** installed ****** * ***** *** *********, with * ********* *** ******* ** 8 ******** ***** *******, *** ** to * ********** *******. ** * standard ***** *********, ***** ** **** for *** ** *** *** ****** batteries.
*** ******* ******** ******* ******* ***** is ******** **** * ****-******** **** ethernet **** *** *** ****, ***** with * ************ ******.
************, *** **** ***** ******** ** ***** with ** ********* ******. ** **** zones ** ***** *** ******, ****** sizes ** ****** **** ** ** used - **** ** *********** ** the ******* ******** *** *** ***** for *** *-******. *** ***** ****** in *** ******, *** *****, *****, and ***** ******* ** ** ** zones *** *** ****** **** ***** upward *** *****-*********:
Keypad *******
** ****** *** ***** ***** * B942 *********** ****** ********* ***** * traditional *-**** ********* ***. ** ***** of ********* *** ***********, *** ****** uses *****-******** *******, *** ****** ********, and ** **** ** ********* ***** features *** ****** *********.
*** ******* ***** ******* **** *** be **** ****** ** ******* *** of ** ******** *****, *** *** ****-******* ***** *** a ****** ****** *** ************* ******** when ***** ********.
*** *** ***** ******** *** ** programmed ** ******, *** ******* ******* the *** ** ** ********* ** and *****'* **** ********* ************* ***.
***** ******* *** ** **** ** program ***** ********,******* ** **** ** ********* '******** Communications' ******** **** ***** ************ *******, output ***** ***** ***********, **** ***** delay *******, *** ********* ***** ******* *********.
Advanced ********
*-****** ****** ******* ***** ******** *** common ** ***** ***** ****** *********. These ******** *******:
- **** **-***: **** *******, ***** ****** ** Banks *** *****, ************* **** ** area **** ***** ** *** **** disarmed, *********** '********* *** **** ****** users'.
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- **** **************: **** ******* ******** *** ***** of *********** ** ***** ** *******/***/****** the ******, ********* ****, *****, ** external '*****' ************.
- ********* ******: **** ****** ****** *** ******* can ** ********** ** ******** ** a ********, ****** **** **** **** on **** **********.
***** ******** ********* ********* **** ********** used ** ***** ***** ********* *******, but ***** ** * ******** ********* for *-****** ****** ** ***** *** high-security ************.
System *******
*** ***** ***** *** * ****** price ** ~$***, ***** *** **** keypad ****** ** ~$***. ********** **** ********* like ***** ** ***, ***** *-****** is ********* **** ***********. * *-****** ***** **** not ******* ***** ******** ******** **** keypads, ****/****** ********, ****, *** ****** sensor *****. *** ***** '***-**' ***** for * ***** * ****, *** device ****** ***** ****** $****, ********** if ***** ******* ** **** ********** is **********.
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Remote ***
***** *-****** ** ********* ** *** Remote ******** ***, * **** ****** ******* to ***, ******, *** ********* ******* the ****** **** ***********.
***** ****** ******** ******* ****** ****** arming *** ********* *** ********** ** connected *******, *** **** **** ***** from ********** *******, *** *** ******** segments.
Central ******* ********** *******
***** ****** *** ** ********* ********* ** the ******** ** ******* ********, ** they *** *****/********* '******' *** ****** ******* ID [**** ** ****** *********] *******. Both ******* *** ****** ********* ** central ******* *********, **** ** ***** coverage **** ** ********** ** *** portion ** ***** ******* *** ** most ** *** *****.
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Comments (13)
Shannon Davis
We have installed several of these. If you are experienced with Bosch the installation is relatively simple. The major draw back to these is the internet experience. You have to use RPS over the internet to change the user codes as compared to Honeywell where through the Total Connect you can do this. They did upgrade the panels late last year to have their Bosch Cloud service available which makes programming remotely somewhat easier.
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Greg Levorchick
These are great, solid & reliable panels. We typically do not install the B3512 but rather the B4512/B5512 and the larger G-Series. We are very pleased with the products that Bosch is producing with quality continuing to be emphasized. As stated though, they can require more steps to get ordered/installed & operational compared to some competitor models and training would be recommended. We have been using Radionics/Bosch products since 1983 and have seen a lot of good, along with some bad(DS years) products - These are definitely on the good end. While the mobile app may not be as robust as some competitor offerings, it is very secure from what we've found with "Certificates" issued to each authorized user for remote access along with encryption. We charge a fee for the initial certificate issuance and then a monthly access fee for certificate maintenance. This allows us to maintain a close relationship with our clients and to make sure things are current & operating as expected, enhancing the overall service experience.
Note that there are other keypad offerings, LCD screen, that are less expensive than the touchscreen shown tested. Though the vast majority of our own clients select the touchscreen when shown/demonstrated. It is fairly intuitive to use with minimal instruction needed.
All together a good review of a good system.
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Steve Beck
Brian-
You should take the scalablity out as a weakness. Any Bosch dealer worth their salt is going to quote a 4512 for an extra $12.00 over the 3512 panel. This panel is only deployed in unique situations.
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Steve Beck
I've quoted this panel twice. Once for a fast food chain and other was for a bus garage when we were deploying B8512 G series panels for a school district at all their buildings. We ended up taking over the existing DSC panel instead of going with the 3512. Basically the panel is quoted for people who already have Bosch or need a bare bones small system apart of a larger project. 8 wireless and 8 hardware zones really limit on what you can do with it.
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
I was looking at this panel for a customer. I was also looking at other panels available through distribution such as Napco Gemini, Honeywell Vista, and DSC PowerSeries. I liked the Bosch the best thus far until I noticed the app has terrible reviews and RSC doesn't seem to support push notifications which makes it rather useless. This customer wants to self monitor. They actually just want a horn, but I feel that is rather useless on its own. I didn't want to use an all in one wireless keypad either.
Cameras will be installed in the spring with a VMS so a network connection will be added in the future. I also want a panel such as the Bosch that supports programming via the software. It's amazing to me how dated these intrusion systems feel in comparison to camera systems. I realize how good DMP is, but that's not available through distribution.
Is there something else I should be looking for that would provide push notifications on mobile devices?
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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Thanks for the reply.
Sorry for not being more clear. It's an external building. It currently doesn't have a network connection, but it will once I install cameras in the spring. I'm anticipating adding notifications at that time since the current requirement is simply a siren. Integration with the VMS isn't required but I may add an I/O box on the VMS to add some extra functionality.
I just still don't understand why all these alarm panels can't be configured like you configure a VMS or any network camera. For instance, instead of a camera UI, you have alarm panel UI, and you select your options.
Aside from Honeywell and Bosch, the websites for these manufacturer's seem as dated as some of their panels. As much as I like what I have seen from DMP, their website isn't even mobile compatible.
I did see after I wrote my post original post that Ring came out with a retrofit panel that can integrate with wired systems, but powered sensors need separate power. The panel runs on batteries. That did seem a viable option, but I still like the idea of a hardwired system with battery backup in the can.
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