Dump Axis and Hikvision, Arecont Will Pay You

By Brian Karas, Published Nov 30, 2016, 09:46am EST

Do you want to get rid of your Avigilon, Axis, Bosch, Hanwha Samsung, Hikvision, Pelco or Sony cameras?

Now, Arecont will pay you to dump them for new Arecont cameras. 

Arecont is offering to buy back competitor's cameras, in what they say may be an industry-first program, and will pay up to $300, depending on the model.

Inside this report we have full details of Arecont's offer, what qualifies, and what does not.

The *****

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Poll - ****

Comments (31)

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 11/30/16 03:46pm

Do the old cameras need to be in working order?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/30/16 04:03pm

Do the old cameras need to be in working order?

U1, Do you really want new Arecont cameras?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to John Honovich | 11/30/16 04:41pm

U1, Do you really want new Arecont cameras?

Yes, If they work ;)

For instance, a customer has a OOW, non-Arecont unit fail in the field, and is considering their options for replacement...

Would Arecont not accept this unit for trade, assuming it met the other qualifications?

Looking at the t&c, I see nothing explicitly prohibiting it.

Undisclosed Integrator #8

In reply to John Honovich | 12/05/16 01:28pm

To replace IndigoVision cameras to ONVIF cameras to move away from the IV platform then YES.

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Brian Karas

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 11/30/16 07:41pm

I asked Arecont about taking back non-working cameras, or testing returned cameras for operation, as part of this offer. They responded:

Yes, Arecont Vision will accept non-working products that qualify for the program.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to Brian Karas | 12/01/16 10:36pm

I see this as the only use case? Who would spend $1,000 to take down a working camera?

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #5 | 12/02/16 12:23am

#5, you might have a 7 year old Axis / Panasonic / Sony camera etc. that is SD analog or 1.3MP etc.

Consider the PTZ use case. There are lots of SD IP PTZs out there. If you have an SD PTZ covering a small area you might be better off with a 12MP multi-imager and Arecont will give you an extra $300 for turning in your 2008 era Axis SD PTZ.

Undisclosed Integrator #5

In reply to John Honovich | 12/02/16 01:02pm

I have not seen the full list, My assumption was that it would not include analog or old models that would naturally be replaced anyway. The small sampling that I saw was for newer models and like replacement, not obvious upgrades.

Undisclosed #2

11/30/16 03:51pm

I suddenly hear free arecont marketing buzz in my ears.

Undisclosed Integrator #3

11/30/16 05:41pm

No thanks, arecont is pure overpriced JUNK. I have a client who had a bunch of arecont quad cameras that all failed and I replaced them with Hikvision and have had no problems since.

Marty Calhoun

IPVMU Certified | 11/30/16 06:49pm

Its a last ditch effort to try and get anyone to buy their overpriced, horrible quality cameras.

Hikvision cameras are way better quality

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | In reply to Marty Calhoun | 11/30/16 09:11pm

Hikvision cameras are way better quality

For us, this is very welcome.

We specialize in Embassy/Consulate on Genetec retrofits, so now every camera we take out, is money we take right to the bank ;)

Undisclosed Manufacturer #7

In reply to Undisclosed #1 | 12/05/16 04:15am

Along with sending the video back to China!

Undisclosed Integrator #4

11/30/16 07:58pm

This thread was sponsored by the letter H I K and the word vision 😂

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Paul Grefenstette

12/01/16 02:50am

Do they take non-working Arecont cameras in the trade as well ;)

John Honovich

IPVM | 12/01/16 12:32pm

Not too long ago, Arecont was regularly the least expensive MP camera. Now, look at how much more Arecont is in the newest ADI flyer:

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Jim Kirk

12/01/16 12:57pm

John,

Are any camera makers doing a lease program for their professional cameras. Something like lease for 2 years, upgrade to the latest or a better model, and repeat.

Seems like a great way to stay current with the changing technology and, from a vendor viewpoint, locking in the brand for their customer.

With all the wiring already run to the camera swapping out to the latest model should be a straightforward job.

NOTICE: This comment has been moved to its own discussion: Any Camera Manufacturers Doing Lease Programs?

Michael Kearns

12/01/16 01:11pm

For the life of me I can't figure out how Arecont stays in business! We tried unsuccessfully for a few years to use Arecont only to have them fail every time. And if you read the reviews from end users and integrator's its painfully clear our experience with them is the norm.

I highly recommend the Axis 3707 and Axis 3709 for multi sensor cameras. We have been buying them now for awhile with much success!

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Michael Kearns | 12/01/16 01:16pm

For the life of me I can't figure out how Arecont stays in business!

It seems like a lot of Western manufacturers, including Arecont, now primarily focus on their own internal sales people (and for Arecont) reps driving business with larger end users.

Undisclosed Manufacturer #9

In reply to Michael Kearns | 12/05/16 04:14pm

Stick with the 3707. It uses the ARTPEC chipset. Although it has 1/2 the resolution of the 3709, it does a much better job in terms of lighting. It is also much more reliable

Former Axis employee.

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Ross Vander Klok

IPVMU Certified | 12/01/16 01:30pm

We always cascade our cameras to other locations when we replace them with a newer model. There is always a place we can use one that doesn't need the newest/latest/best model. AXIS cameras last forever and as long as it is "new" enough to run h.264 we are happy to keep it.

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Christopher Freeman

12/01/16 03:55pm

Again , its comparing old to newer technologies

Have had many successful jobs with arecont in past , but the major problem was and is that they did not update software and current technology soon enough and this did not meet the expectations of the client or customer. Causing them to try other brands.

It used to be High end vs Low end , now its survival of the lowest bid with compatibility to existing systems ( legacy vs state of the art Integration with issues )

Do you keep throwing out the old or do you just retrofit as it gets out of date?

Right out the gate they were informed of issues , but because of time , the fix for issues were delayed , this caused a lot of industry company's(other's) to race ahead in the race. The current technology race is fast paced and leaves no room for slackers or your left behind.

Face it, the Foreign company's have unlimited budgets and low cost workforce witch gives them the advantage.

Hope they survive the race to Quantity Sales, Not Quality

We still put in a variety so as to see for ourselves the difference.

Still A Great Company , I will still support them. in spite of opposition

John Honovich

IPVM | 12/01/16 05:45pm

Poll update: 55% of integrators think this is a good idea but 72% of manufacturers think it is a bad one.

Undisclosed #6

12/02/16 03:27am

I am a little shocked at the general hatred for Arecont, but my primary experiences with them are in the last 2 years so maybe that is why. I have installed a few hundred of them and have had a grand total of one that was bad, and it was an out-of-the-box issue that was replaced immediately and had no issues afterwards. Otherwise, I use Arecont in highly competitive situations where I can register the project and get heavy discounts going against Axis.

I am sure their reputation among some was earned with the issues I know they had, but I have legitimately had good experiences overall.

John Honovich

IPVM | In reply to Undisclosed #6 | 12/02/16 10:01am

#6, very helpful feedback! How significant are the project registration discounts? Typically other manufacturer's project registration are generally fairly modest (like in the 5 point range). Is Arecont's much higher?

Undisclosed #6

In reply to John Honovich | 12/03/16 05:00am

Hi John -

Very significant -- much more than 5%. Depending on the size and competitiveness of the project, I've received upwards of 40% discounts before. I have developed a good relationship with my local rep firm and the Arecont RSM, and they understand that I'm not asking for big discounts unless I'm trying to win business that we may not otherwise win. So, I don't always ask for a large discount because that's not a good partnership.

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Christopher Freeman

12/02/16 02:22pm

I agree , But overall they have been very supportive, returned calls, given support over the phone, taken back products with out problems.

Willing to certify on thier products and keep you in the loop as to changes , not get them after you install the product and fix on site like some .

Any company who is in business for any length of time will have its share of problems that tend to haunt them . no exceptions anywhere.

When you cannot get return calls, phone just rings with no ability to get support, and no one can answer question s on their own product line with out reading a Q card , then you should dis that company as they have already did themselves in .

Arecont is not with out problems , but they still are very supportive and strive to stay in the running for cutting edge technologies .

John Honovich

IPVM | 01/07/18 07:27pm

Arecont continues to continue the trade up program, now through Q1 2018:

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Paul Grefenstette

01/07/18 08:22pm

Replace Avigilon/Axis cameras with Arecont and call me 6mo down the line and let me know how that worked out for you.

Undisclosed #10

In reply to Paul Grefenstette | 01/07/18 11:51pm

The initial post was from a year ago.  Anyone buy into the program?  How are the results?

Undisclosed #1

IPVMU Certified | 01/08/18 12:02am

Will they swap an Arecont for one of their Axis trade-ins?

1 for 1, no money, no guarantee.

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