Do they limit the number of enrolled users / records in database? I will visit them at the show but so far IMO the MorphoWave Tower is better option.
Wave Your Hand Biometrics at ISC West
Published Apr 05, 2016 12:50 PM
Want to simply wave your hand as you walk in?
One of the most different approaches being shown at ISC West is a company that claims to deliver "FBI Quality Fingerprints" while eliminating the need to touch anything or even stop.
Reading Process
In order to capture images of user's fingers, they position their hands with the palm facing the reader. The composite below shows the typical read process in three steps:
The notch in the front plate of the reader stand positions hands, working as a partial shield against interfering glare or backlighting of subject hands. An LED ring surrounding the notch glows green/red to verify accepted or denied reads.
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Comments (17)
KA
Konstantin Avramenko
Apr 05, 2016Brian Rhodes
Apr 05, 2016Hello Konstantin: I'll forward this question to AOS and report back. Thanks!
Brian Rhodes
Apr 05, 2016AOS replied: "5,000 users off the shelf, options to 50,000. Or use your own database and matcher."
KA
Konstantin Avramenko
Apr 05, 2016Thank you Brian. It is a very small number taking into account the device price. If I remember it correctly MorphoWave Tower has 10K records with an option to extend and MSRP something around $10K.
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Konstantin Avramenko
Apr 13, 2016I saw and tried their (AOS) product at ISC West. It looks pretty solid but at the same time I think that the way they capture image has drawbacks. It seems that it is sensitive to the reflection / glare. It could not capture image while I was standing behind the "waving person" with the photo camera that was accidentally pointed in the direction of scanner. The way it is done in the MorphoWave Tower IMO is more reliable.
I has also noticed that AOS product is sensitive to the position of hand. Sometimes it could not capture fingerprints, sometimes the result was two fingers and sometimes four. Thus I doubt that the real through put will be close to the max numbers because if the person was not identified because of no data or in case of higher security requirement to have 3 or 4 captured and verified fingerprints then the person has to return back (because of concept and design people will try to be identified on the move) in order to wave again.
I also experienced the delays / issues in capturing and processing with the MorphoWave Tower. At the same time the concept of their product assumes that the person has to stop and wave. This approach IMO is more robust and less annoying for users in case of issues with identification.
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Warren Tilbrook
Apr 05, 2016Hi Brian
Just a question on the cost over the life cycle of system. If you were able to go over to a credential free access control system where there is a large user database and high card turnover could a case be made for the ROI over a 3-5 year period?
Of course the use of these units will be limited to specific environments but I have recently finished a project where over 100,000 cards per year will be issued or replaced and this credential free proposition seems very attractive.
Brian Rhodes
Apr 05, 2016Hello Warren:
Interesting question! I think taking a step back and framing this as a 'biometrics vs. card credential' question is helpful.
Even given the volumes you're dealing with, I think 3-5 year ROI might be a challenge given that ANDI OTG runs ~$27k for just a single unit associated with one opening.
Most facilities have multiple doors that are access controlled, and so a single card may be used in multiple places.
However, if the situation for less exotic 'traditional' contact fingerprint readers can be made, the ROI case becomes much easier to make.
Even if a door fingerprint or fingervein scanner costs $2k (many are available for less), one could outfit ~13 doors for the cost of one ANDI OTG.
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Konstantin Avramenko
Apr 05, 2016I would say a simple fingerprint sensor can be around $100. In the $2K range there are many options in any modality: fingerprints, vein pattern recognition, iris or multi-modal.
John Bredehoft
Apr 05, 2016It all depends upon the use case. If there is a need for rapid entry of many people past an access point, or if there is a hygiene issue, then a contactless fingerprint reader may provide a positive ROI. If there are only a few people going past the access point and time is not an issue, then the case obviously weakens.
(Disclosure: I work for an AOS competitor.)
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Kamen Kostov
Apr 06, 2016Two years ago I saw this at the Biometric convention in Tampa. The quality of the scan was amazing considering it was done at a distance. If I remember correctly back then they were asking $30K for the system. I was hoping by now the price to drop at least in half.
A much more precise identification with Iris access control camera can be done for around $1,500 so it is hard to believe the ANDI OTG can gain any real traction. The application has to be high volume with high throughput.
Scott Gerrels
Apr 11, 2016Its a turnstile less turnstile.
Rian Schermerhorn
Apr 12, 2016This is definitely a cool technology and has many applications. The problem is that it's not really new. Safron Morpho was at the show and has been doing this for a while already, and I'll just say...it really is impressive. Not saying these guys are bad, but they're late to the game.
JH
John Honovich
Apr 12, 2016SRI was showing the AOS unit in the SRI booth. I saw it and they confirmed it.
Robert Sprecher
Apr 12, 2016Hi John,
Our contactless fingerprint device is the MorphoWAVE. It was 2015 best new product at ISC West and is definitely not AOS technology or form factor. Could you correct?
JH
John Honovich
Apr 12, 2016My apologies. I was at the SRI booth where they were showing AOS. Corrected.
Brian Rhodes
Apr 13, 2016Hello Robert:
Ten months ago, we contacted Morpho about "Finger on the Fly" and MorphoWAVE, but we failed to get any sustained, informative responses.
Members asked about it then, see this discussion: Has Anyone Installed The New MorphoTrak "Finger On The Fly" Reader?
With that in mind, can you weigh in here?
- What is the resolution images are captured at? For example, AOS is 500 ppi. Is MorphoWAVE less/more?
- The position of the hand needs to be much closer/precise with MorphoWAVE than AOS. What throughput rate should be expected?
- Can MorphoWAVE Tower be used outdoors? Are there any environmental limitations?
- How much does MorphoWAVE Tower cost?
Thanks!
John Bredehoft
Apr 13, 2016Brian, I have answered two of the questions in the initial "finger on the fly" thread. I will work with Rob on getting answers to the other questions.