Testing FLIR IR PTZ

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Ethan Ace
•Published Feb 17, 2015 05:00 AM

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Comments (15)
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Jon Dillabaugh
•Feb 17, 2015
Pro Focus LLC

If your only goal was license plate capture, you could make adjustments to the shutter speed to achive this goal. But, you would lose the ability to see much else than reflective surfaces or other bright light sources.

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U
Undisclosed #1
•Feb 18, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Similar to the Dahua HD-CVI...

I know it's IP not CVI, but do you think this is this actually a Dahua under the covers?

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Feb 18, 2015
Pro Focus LLC
In reply to Undisclosed #1

It is Dahua.

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U
Undisclosed #1
•Feb 19, 2015
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Jon Dillabaugh

Yes, agreed. Maybe this one? And $300 less than even the FLIR. Though I'm aware there are downsides to buying them online, I'm just not sure what they are?

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Jon Dillabaugh
•Feb 19, 2015
Pro Focus LLC
In reply to Undisclosed #1

If you can work with a max 100M of IR range, this Dahua OEM lists for under $800

http://www.nellyssecurity.com/cameras/hi-def-cameras/ip-cameras/ip-ptz-s/eyesurv-esip-ptzv2-1080pir-2-megapixel-high-definition-infrared-ip-ptz-zoom-security-camera.html

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
•Feb 18, 2015

Hi,

I noticed that you touched a weak spot of a lot of outdoor Full HD PTZ domes : focusing! In that respect I would love to see what happens to similar hi-end camera's from bosch, samsung, axis, panasonic. In my experience the Bosch VG5-7230-EPC4 did a good job (while the Bosch Autodome 7000 20x did NOT). Other interesting models to evaluate Samsung SNP-6320H, Panasonic WV-SW598 AND AXIS Q6045 Mk II.

Thanks in advance,

Filip

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KL
Keefe Lovgren
•Feb 19, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Ethan,

What VMS did you use in testing this and what others have you tried with this ptz?

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Ethan Ace
•Feb 19, 2015
In reply to Keefe Lovgren

In this test, we used Exacq 6.4. It worked without issue (PTZ control, presets, tours, etc.). We also added it to Avigilon without issue. We didn't try any others for this test.

JH
John Honovich
•Feb 19, 2015
IPVM
In reply to Ethan Ace

How smooth or jerky was PTZ control?

KL
Keefe Lovgren
•Feb 20, 2015
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Ethan Ace

Ethan,

Perfect, thank you for the quick reply...

km
kenneth macphee
•Feb 20, 2015

The focusing issue kills it for me, at least in applications where one needs to track movement. I will stick with analog unless other ip cameras can handle this better.

KL
Keefe Lovgren
•Feb 20, 2015
IPVMU Certified

Ethan,

In regards to the blurriness you discuss in the video (and what has been touched on in discussion) was that only an issue at night like in the video or was it blurry in the daytime as well when in motion?

km
kenneth macphee
•Feb 20, 2015

Good question, I thought of that too but didn't ask.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Mar 01, 2015

What kind of support are you getting from Flir? My authorized distributor called for pricing a week ago. Still no response. I cant say I'm excited.

JH
John Honovich
•Mar 01, 2015
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

C, we get support direct from FLIR for testing (like we do with most manufacturers) but that's not representative of the typical integrator.

My understanding is that FLIR is distributed through a number of distributors such as Anixter/Tri-ED, ADI, Scansource and a bunch of others.

Btw, if your distributor is authorized, shouldn't they already have pricing? I am not sure if I understand.

If you contact me offline (john@ipvm.com), I can help facilitate a connection if that helps.