From what you describe in the test results, you really wouldn't want to use this on any gun intended for home defense use, IMO. I wouldn't want to risk setting off my home alarm, or have to deal with first disarming an alarm in Home/Stay/Night mode just to pick up my defense pistol while investigating a "bump in the night".
This might be good for guns that are mostly stored and stationary, but then again most safes, trigger locks, and cable locks would be just as effective with proper protocol.
This seems like a great concept, but it sounds like the sensor itself needs a complete redesign. I wonder what Nortek's testing consisted of.
My wife and I want to buy a gun, but we have young kids at home, and we're worried about them finding a gun when we have our backs turned or whatever. I've been looking at gun safes, but this sensor would be perfect if it was designed better.
A gun safe should be your first purchase. You need to know what type of guns you may purchase to know what size of safe to buy, but I wouldn’t recommend even shopping for a gun until you have a safe at home and ready to go.
I'm pretty sure my kids would eventually figure out how to open a locked cabinet. Getting an alert on my phone if a gun moved would make me feel better. I guess I could alarm the cabinet, but that isn't nearly as cool.
Getting an alert on my phone if a gun moved would make me feel better.
It wouldn't, you can't rely on a sensor for gun safety. Here is what would happen, you'd be driving, or in a big meeting and you'd get an alert that your gun moved, with no other context or information. What do you do? Is it a false alarm? Is your wife just dusting? Did your kid get ahold of the gun?
This sensor is the LAST step in your gun safety plan, not the first.
My plan is to keep it in a safe, which would then be in a locked cabinet. But I still feel uncomfortable about it, because when I was a kid I found my dad's gun, in a locked safe, in his sock drawer. And I found the key in his dresser drawer, inside a jar, buried in a big pile of change.
What can I say, we didn't have cable when I was growing up and had to make our own entertainment.
I wouldn't use this as my only precaution, but I would like another layer of protection.
A problem though is that this sensor allows some guns to still fire, while at the same time preventing you from using other trigger locks (you could still do a cable lock). I like the concept, but I don't think this is executed well enough to be used with enough peace of mind to really make your gun security overall better. A sensor on the door of the gun safe would probably be more reliable, give you earlier warning, and not interfere with your overall gun safety strategy as much.
Agree on the speaker, I have the one for a nighstand/table. About the size of a wireless router, does not look out of place next to TV/sat receiver. Kinda blends in. I have it on fingerprint only (it did come with RFID tags, wristband) as I did not want a tag to open it. Works well, has never failed to open for me or my wife. Takes about 2 seconds to spring open. Mine is the original one with GPS/cellular, so it notifies without my Wifi/internet or during power outage due to built-in lithium battery. It does exactly what I wanted: secure location for loaded guns but with fast access to me or wife only along with notification if someone moves it or tries to open.
I agree this is a step in the right direction. Although not sure how you could release a product that still allows a firearm to fire. Sure the sensor will sound an alarm but that doesn't stop a child from firing the weapon. Hopefully they will see this review and work on correcting with version 2.0 and as well others like Honeywell will follow suit and make something as well. I know they already have movement sensors for painting and TV's and such. Of course they may see that there is too much liability as well. We have all put sensors on safes but that is completely different than on the actual weapon. Good work IPVM.
I’m mostly worried about the fact that you can fire it while having the sensor/lock installed. I’m wondering what V2 of this lock will look like - as IPVM just did a great job of collecting feedback for them!
This product is a stand-alone system that pushes alerts to your cellphone via SMS.
However, as others have mentioned, installing door contacts or accelerometer sensors to a safe, and then configuring it to an existing intrusion/burg system is common too, and rarely costs more than ~$75: