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Would This Be The Worst Case VSaaS / Cloud Scenario? Cloudnordic Loses All Data

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Sean Patton
•Aug 25, 2023

Related: Verkada Mass Hack, Why The Cloud Is Net Negative For Integrators, Resideo: Not Hacking, Environmental Issue Caused Mass Outage, Eagle Eye Cloud Outage - How Concerning Are Cloud VMS Outages To You?

Is there a worse scenario than losing all of your recordings and system configuration?

****** ***** ********** ***/** ******* ******* access ** **** ***** *** ******** cited ******** *** ***** *********** ***** with ***** *********, ****** ***** ********* often **** *** ***** ** ******* system ******** **-**-****, *** ********** ****** in ******** **** *******.

********* ************ ***** ******* ****************** (*** ******** ******* ****)********* **** *** ** ***** **** in * ****** ***** ****** *** that *** ******* ** *** ******* exactly *** ** ********:

*********** ** *** *** ******** ******* how *** ********* *********** *** *******, but ********** **** ** *** ** do **** *** ********* ** *** servers **** *** **** ****** ** another. ****** **** *********, * ********** compromised ******** *** ********* ** * separate ******* **** *** ****** ** its ******** *********, ****** ** ********.

**** ** ******** *** *****-**** ******** I ***** ******* *** * ********:

“*** ********* ******* ** ******* *** servers' *****, ** **** ** ** primary *** ********* ****** *******, ******* all ******** ******* *** ** **** access ** *** ****,” *********** ****

********* **** **** **** ****** ******** to ********** ****** ******* *** **** users, *** ****** * *********** ******** to *****-****** *********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
•Aug 25, 2023

* ***** ** ***** **** ********* would ******* ****** ******** *** *******:

  • **** ********* ****** ******** ******* *********, so ** ***** ***** **** ********** is **** ***** ****** ****** *** taking *****
  • ********* ***** ******** ***** ******* ******* the *******
  • ****** ********* ******** *** ********* ******

******* *****. ** *****'* **** **** to ** * ******. ******* ******, fires, ***** **** ******* *********. ******* crashing *** ****** ******* ** * thing ********* *** ** **** **** at **** *****. *** *** *** rebuild ** **** *******.

******* **** **** ****** *** ****** the ****** ** **** ******. *** have ** *** ** ******* *** to *****, ******* ***** *** ******** people **********. ****** *** *** *****.

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James Mifsud
•Aug 26, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1

**** ** **** ****** ** *** I **** ***** ***** ******* ****** something ********* *******.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
•Aug 27, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

**** ** **** ****** ** **** **** ***** ***** ************* ********* ********* *******.

****.

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James Mifsud
•Aug 28, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #4

****** *** *** ***

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•Aug 25, 2023

*'* *** **** ** *** ** the **** ****** *****-****-********* *** *****, but ********* * ****** *** ***-***** to ********** ********* **** **** *** decentralized **** ** *********** ***** *******.

*** **** ****** ***** **** ********* for ***** ***** ************, **** ** losing ******** ********** ** **** *,*,* for * *** ***** *** **** pretty ***, ** ** ***** ** video, *****, *** ********, ****** **** internet ********** ******* ** *** **** outcome ** * ***** ******** ** hacker ******** **** ******* ** ********.

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bashis mcw
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

*** ********* * ****** *** ***-***** to ********** ********* **** **** *** decentralized **** ** *********** ***** *******.

*** ** *** ******** **** **** article? * ** **** *******, ** we *** ********** ******* *** **** article ** ********* ****.

*** ******* ** ***** * ****** cloud ******** ******** ** ****** *******, with *** ****** **** *** ***** cloud ********* *** ********** ********* *** potentially ***-***********.

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U
Undisclosed #3
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to bashis mcw

*** ******* ** ***** * ****** cloud ******** ******** ** ****** *******, with *** ****** **** *** ***** cloud ********* *** ********** ********* *** potentially ***-***********.

*** **** ** ** ****.... ** says *** **** *** ********* (*.*. ransomware) *** *** ******** ***** ******* the ****** ****:

“*** ********* ******* ** ******* *** servers' *****, ** **** ** ** primary *** ********* ****** *******, ******* all ******** ******* *** ** **** access ** *** ****,” *********** ****

'******* *** ******** ******* *** ** lost ****** ** *** ****' - makes ** *****.

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bashis mcw
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #3

“*** ********* ******* ** ******* *** servers' *****, ** **** ** ** primary *** ********* ****** *******, ******* all ******** ******* *** ** **** access ** *** ****,” *********** ****

'******* *** ******** ******* *** ** lost ****** ** *** ****' - makes ** *****.

**** **** ***** **** *** ********* hit *** ****** *** ******* *****, which ***** ******* ***** ** **. The ******* ****** ****** ****** ** resources ***** *** ************** *****.

** *'* **** *** **** ** I **, *** ***** ** *** a ******** ****** *** ***** ********, they ******* ***** *** **** ***-***** environment, *** **** *** *** *** gets ****** ** **** *****, *** can ****** *** **'* ******* **.

U
Undisclosed #3
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to bashis mcw

'******* *** ******** ******* *** ** lost ****** ** *** ****' - makes ** *****.

** ***** ** **** *** ***** being ********* *** *** ***** *** machines *** **** ****** ** *** data - *** *******, **** **** all ***** **** ******* **** ******* to *** *** ****** *********** **** *** ***** ****, **?

*** ***'* ****** ********* **** ***'** already ******.

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bashis mcw
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #3

** *** ******* ** *** *** build **.

*** *******, ** *** **** * Windows ******* **** * ** **** servers ********* *** **** ** ***** in * ******* ********, **** ** make ** ******** ****, ** *********** by *********. *** ******* ********* ******* servers ***** **** ****** *** ********* on *** ******* ********, ***** **** means ** ** *** ******* *****.

***, ** *** ****** **** *** storage ********, ** **** *********** ******* everything ** *** ******* ******** *** then *** ******* ******** **** **** stop *******.

**, ** ***** ** **** ******** case, ** **** * ******* **** kind ** ******** ** *** *** from *******, ******** * ** *** 100% ****, ** ***** ** ********* no ******** *********** *********.

U
Undisclosed #3
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to bashis mcw

***, ** *** ****** **** *** storage ********, ** **** *********** ******* everything ** *** ******* ******** *** then *** ******* ******** **** **** stop *******.

**'* **** **** ******* ******* *** storage **** ** ********* ***'* *** same ***** ** '****** *** **** because ******* *******'

***** *** ***** **** *** **** ransomware ********* **** ***** ** * chance ** *** **** ***-********* **** unencrypted - ** *** *** *** ransom?

* ** ******* **** '**********' *** one *******: ** *** **** ** unencrypt *** **** **** ***** ********** has *********.

********* ******** **** ******** **** ** malware - *** **********.

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bashis mcw
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #3

***** *** ***** **** *** **** ransomware ********* **** ***** ** * chance ** *** **** ***-********* **** unencrypted - ** *** *** *** ransom?

***, * *****.

U
Undisclosed #3
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to bashis mcw

***, * *****.

* **** ****** *** ********** ***** and * ***** * **** ** initially ** ** **** **** ****** data *** **** '****'.

'******* *** ******** ******* *** ** lost ****** ** *** ****'

** * **** ** *****, **** aren't ****** ****... *** *******, **** that **** **** ************ **** **** - ***** ** what ***** ** ******** ** * ransomware ****** ****** * ****** *** paid.

* *********** *** ******* ********** ***** incorrectly.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•Aug 26, 2023
In reply to bashis mcw

****, * *** ********** ** ***** post, *** ******** ** *** *******.

** *** ******* ** ***** ************, cloud ***** ***** ********* **** ** verkada *** ** *** ****, *** so **** ******* ***-***** *** ********* away **** **** *** ********* ** the *****.

* *** ********** **** ** *** another ****** **** ****** ******** ******* on-prem, ** ***** * ****** ******** vs ****** ********** ** *** *****.

**** ***** *********, * *** ***** only ***** ** ******** *** ***** into *** ***** ***** *****, **** dont **** ** **** *** ****** machine, ** *******, ** ***** *** of *** ******* *******/********* ****.

*** ******* **** **** ****** ******, as ********* ** **** *******, *** actors **** ***** * ***** **** itself, ** * ***** *** ********** that ***** *******, *** *** ***** solution, ** **** **** **** *** rest ** *** *****.

** ******* ** ****** ** ***** scale ** **** *********, * *** actor ***** **** ** ********, *** attack **** **** ****** **** *** vulnerability **** **** *****.

** *** *** ** ** *******, i *** ****** * ***** **** cloud ***** ***** ************ ********* **** data *** ****** ********, ***** *****, due ** ****** *** ** ***** control, **** ** ******** ******* *******.

**'* ****, **** **** ***** ********* have * **** ********, *** **'* limited, *** ***** *** ****** *** a **** ****** ** **** **, and ********* ** *** ********, ** you **** ********** ** **** ********, you'd **** **** ****** ** **** user *********, *** ***** ********* ********, making *** ****** *********** ********** *** that ********, ***** *** ******** *** restored.

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