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Who Has The Best Video Analytics Tech Today? Who Will In 5 Years?

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Undisclosed #1
Apr 06, 2018

Today there are a handul of players all claiming to to have the best video analytics technology. I am curious who everyone thinks is ahead today, and also who everyone thinks will emergy the leader five years from now. 

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JH
John Honovich
Apr 06, 2018
IPVM

Great question for a first comment! Welcome!

See: Favorite Video Analytic Manufacturers 2018. Today, the answer is Avigilon.

5 years from now, it's hard to tell because of the ongoing developments in AI. In terms of pure dollars spent, the Chinese (specifically Hikvision and Dahua) are spending the most now. Will that translate into them being the best 5 years now? The bull side is yes, the most investment will translate into being the best. The bear side is their software development (regular camera and VMS) lags significantly so hard to believe they can execute given their track record.

But I would not bet who would be the best in 5 years. It is certainly an important question as the leader there could be a critical factor in who the biggest, most powerful player is in 2023.

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U
Undisclosed #1
Apr 06, 2018

Thanks John! Two follow up questions.

1) Do you think Avigilon is better off going forward in video analytics being apart of Motorola Solutions (deeper pockets to match the investments in China)?

2) This is a vague question, but what makes one company's analtyics better/different than the others? It seems from that article above that Avigilon analytics are easy to deploy, but are they more effective at identifying events and such than competitors as this point? Do they have a higher hit rate on identifying events or something?

JH
John Honovich
Apr 06, 2018
IPVM

#1, that's a good question about Motorola. I don't know enough yet about how Motorola is going to impact Avigilon's R&D but I agree with your implicit point that it is a key question.

Q2 is a good one as well. Right now, it is still an issue of accuracy. We're not at the point where all systems are accurate and the only thing matter is branding or UX, etc. Look at Hikvision DeepInMind for a good example of such problems.

So Avigilon has accuracy plus they have the tight integration with their system so it's quite a 1, 2 combination. Related to that, even if an AI startup has great analytics, they still face a big problem with adoption and integration (e.g., Umbo, you literally have to buy their cameras and use the interface, which is dealbreaker for most). Another example, Milestone realizes this problem and they are aiming to build a framework to make that happen but it's early days for them.

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MM
Michael Miller
Apr 06, 2018

I would put Avigilon at the top of the list as their analytics are very easy to deploy, they are reliable, and the integration is flawless. I see them only getting better with more features.

Briefcam is very impressive and now adding business intelligence to the mix they offer a very impressive solution though it does come with a hefty price tag. 

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JE
Jim Elder
Apr 07, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Take a view of Vice (the one on HBO) next Friday. Its going to be about surveillance science in China. Previews are pretty creepy. 

MM
Michael Miller
Apr 07, 2018

Did you see the one on Russian hackers where they practice hacking model city's? They setup a model city use the same controls that are used to run real systems and shut down power plants and crashed trains. 

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Apr 08, 2018

The trouble comes when you try to define "best".  The value to the customer may involve more than just accuracy and ease of use.  As analytics move towards camera versus server hosting, can problems arise when trying to deploy across new and existing VMS platforms?  The AI phenomenon will result in a major rate-of-change issue challenging many platforms to keep up.  Perhaps advanced analytics will require using a separate service dedicated to specific camera/sensors, and be  independent of the VMS in use. 

JH
John Honovich
Apr 08, 2018
IPVM

As analytics move towards camera versus server hosting

One other trend to note is analytics moving to the cloud. For example, both Dahua and Hikvision are marketing this now, e.g., Hikvision AI Cloud World Summit.

There are technical benefits, e.g., 'unlimited' processing power in the 'cloud'. There are obviously security concerns, do you really want to send your security video to a cloud provider that will not only have access to that but also the results (facial recognition matches, etc.). In the PRC, this will not be an issue but in the USA and EU, it likely will.

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