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IT Directors Who Fought Hard To Take Over Physical Security, Only To Quickly Give It Back Once The Reality Of A Physical Security Manager Becomes Known

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Michael Silva
•Feb 14, 2020
Silva Consultants

I agree with you Ross. I have had clients whose IT Directors fought hard to take over the physical security function, only to quickly give it back once the reality of a Physical Security Manager becomes known. Often all it takes is a few calls from employees complaining about their lunch being stolen from the refrigerator, their car being keyed in the parking lot, or an exterior door that repeatedly fails to latch. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

NOTICE: This comment was moved from an existing discussion: Blub0x Alleges Lenel, S2, Software House Are Dinosaurs

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John Honovich
•Feb 14, 2020
IPVM

*******, ******! * **** **** *** own ****.

**** *******, * ***** ******, ** manager ** ***, *** ******* * 'physical ******** *******', **** *** ** adapt * *** ** *** ************ expectations *** ******* ** **.

*** *******, ** *** *** ** IT *******, *** ***** *** **** about ***** ******* *** *** *** really **** ***** *********. *** **** over ******** ******** *** * ***** and *** **** ******* **** **** the ***** ******* ** ****, ** creates ******* ******** **** ***** *** serious *********.

******* ** **** ******' ******** ** this.

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Undisclosed #1
•Feb 14, 2020
In reply to John Honovich

**** *****...

*******, * **** **** **** **** large *** **** ********* - *** if *** ** ******* ***'* ** the **** **** ** *** ****** tasked **** ******** ******** - ***************** *******.

* ***** *** '** **** *** doesn't ********** *** ***** ** *** physical ******** ****' ** ******* ********* by ***.

**** ***** **** **** ******* ******* this ********* ****** ** *** **** my **********.

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John Honovich
•Feb 14, 2020
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #1

**** ***** **** **** ******* ******* this ********* ****** ** *** **** my **********.

* *** ******* ****. ** ***** was **** **** ** ********* **** going ** ****** ****** ********. ****** the ****** ****** ******* ******* *** ignore***** **** ***** *******, ****-**, **** ** *******, ************, point ** **** ** ********* *** learning ***** *******.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Feb 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #1

* ********** ***** **** ****. *******, there ** * **** ********** ******* working **** **** ** ** *******/******** and ***** *** ** ** ** manager/director. * ****** ******** ********** *** not ******** ******* ** **** *** vice-versa.

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Dwayne Cooney
•Feb 14, 2020

***. *'** ****** **** ** ********** that **** ** **'* ** *** network, **** *** ****** **. **'* likely **** **** *** * ***** of *** *** *****, ****** *******, video *** ********* ****'** **** * deer ** **********.

**** ******* ** ** *** **** someone ****** ** ****** * ****** request ******* *** ****** ************** ****** to * ******, ******** *** ***** own ***********. ***** ******** *** "*** hard ***** ** **?"

* ********* **** ***** ** *** equivalent ** ******* ********** *** ********* access ** *** ****** **** ******** automation ****** ** ****** *** *********** in ** ******** **** *****, **** for ** *** ***********. * ***** "How **** ***** ** **?". ** course, ********* **** ** ********* ****** was *** ** *** ********.

**** *** **************, ************* *** *** "policy ** ***** *********" ** ** important ** ********* **** ** ***** to **** ** *** ******** ******** systems. *** **** ** *** **********. These ***** ****** **** **** **** as ****.

*** ****** **** **, ******** ******** is *** ** *** ** ** not ******** ********. **** **** **** their *** ****** ** ******** **** must ** ******* ** ***** *** subject ****** *******, *** ** *** same ****, ***** *********** ****** ** working ******** ******* *** **** **** to ******* ******, ********, ******** *** intellectual ********.

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Undisclosed End User #2
•Feb 14, 2020
In reply to Dwayne Cooney

**** **** ******* ******* ****** ********* but **** *****'* ******* **** *** can't **** ** *** ***** *** there ** ********* **** ****** ** growing *******. ***'* *** ****** *** live ** ** *** **** *****. I **** ***** *** **** ** broad *************** ***** ****** ****** ** here **** ** ****** ***** **** to *** ************, *** ******* ** people, *** *** **'* *******. **** well ** *** **** *****. **** poorly, *** *** **** ***'* ****** to *** **** ******** **** **** poorly. * *** **** ** ****** call *** **** ********** ***'* ******** Management *** ******** **********. ** ********** access ******* ***'* ***** ************ *** video ************ ***'* ********** ****** *******. Of ****** **** ****'*.

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Undisclosed End User #3
•Feb 14, 2020
In reply to Undisclosed End User #2

********* *** *** **** ****** *** other. * ***'* *** ******** ** here **** ****** **** **** **** isn't **** *** ****. ** ** also ******* **** ** *** ***** down ** *** ************, ****** *** management ** ** ********** ********** ** company.

*** ** ** ********** *** *** control * ********** ******** ******** **********? Of ****** ** ***. ** **** isn't ** ******, ***** ** **** as ** *** *** ** ******* by *** ********* *** ***************.

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Undisclosed End User #2
•Feb 14, 2020

* ********** *** ************/********/********** *** ****** systems ("**-***** **********" *** **** ** better ****) ** ***** * *** different ***** **** *** *****/********* ("**-***** police") ** **** *******. **** *** be * **** ****** ** ****** such ** *********** **** ** ***. Division ** ************** *** *** **** goes **** ** ****** ** ***** and ****** ** ********** **** **** would ****** **** *** ** ************.

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Michael Silva
•Feb 14, 2020
Silva Consultants

** ** ********* ** ********** **** the ******** ******** ******** *********** **** more **** **** ******** ********** (*******, access ******* *******, ***** *******, ***.). The ******** ******** ******** ******** ****** such ** ***** ***** **********, ******** investigation, ********* ******** **********, *** * myriad ** ***** ****** **** ***'* involve **********.

***** ** ** *** * *** stretch *** ** ** ************ ** take ** *** ******** ********** ********, dealing **** *** ***-********** ******* ** security ** ***** ******* ** *** skill *** *** ********* ** **** IT *************. **** ** *** ** say **** * ****** ****** ******'* do **** ****, *** **** ***** be ********* ****.

**** ****** ******** ******** *********** *** now ***** ********* ** **** ***** is * *********** ******** ******* **** deals **** *** ***-********* ******* ** security *** * ********* ******** ******* that ***** **** ******** **********. *** Operational ******** ******* ********* ******** * staff **** ******** ******** *********** *** investigators, ***** *** ********* ******** ******* typically ******** * ***** ** **-***** technicians *** ****** **************.

*************, *** ******* ******** ********* *** been ******* ** * ******** ********, to **** *** *********** ******** ******* and ********* ******** ******* ******. ** recent *****, ***** *** **** * shift ******* ***** *** ***** ***** Security ******* (***) ******* ** *** title ******** ********. ***** **** **** shift, **** ********* **** ***** **/******** security ** *** ***'* **************** *** have ** *********** ******** ******* **** also ******* ** *** ***.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Feb 14, 2020
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Michael Silva

*** **** ********* *** ***** *** up ** ** **********! ***** *** you **** *** ******* *** *********** Michael!?!? ;-)

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Michael Silva
•Feb 14, 2020
Silva Consultants
In reply to Ross Vander Klok

**** *** ** *** **** ** the ***** **** ***** **** ** your **** ***. :)

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Dwayne Cooney
•Feb 14, 2020
In reply to Michael Silva

** ***** ******** ***** ***** **** differently ***** ** ***** *** *********.

* ***** **** *******. ** ** considering *** ******* **** ** *** physical ******** *****, ****** **** *******.

** *** ****, ** **** * team ** ******** ********** *********** **** decades ** ********** ** ************, ******* and ****** ***** **** ******** ** professional ************** *** ******* ********'*. *** team ******** **************, *********** *** ************* for **** ***** ********** *******. **** consult ** ******** *** **** *** globe *** ******* ************* *** ******* repair *** ***** *****.

* ** * ****** ********** ********** and * ****** ******** ** **** team **** *** **** **********. * am ****** **** *** **** ************** as *** ******** *********** **** *** addition ** ******* *********, ******* **********, system *********** **********, ** **** ** researching *** ******* *** **********.

***** *** ****** ****** **** **** assessments *** ******** ******** *************** **** are ******* *** ********* (*****, ***.). There *** **** ******** ******** *** a *** **** ****** ** ***. All ** ***** ********* **** **** type ** ***-*********** ********** ** ****.

***** ** ** ** ********* **** can ******* *** ** *** ***** experience, ********* *** **** ** *** technical *******, **** ** ****** ** our ******** ******** **** ****** ******* any ***'* ****** ** ** **********.

** ****** *** ********* **** ***** closely **** ** ******** *** **** servers **** *** *** ******** ** our *******, *** ** ******* *** video ********* ********** ****** *** *****... and *** ********* **** ********** ****** on ** *** ******** *** ******* infrastructure. **** **** *** **'* ***'* and **** **** **** ********.

** *** ***** ****, ********, *************, intelligence ***** **** ******* **** ***** Security *** ******* ****** ******* *** others ********* ******* ********** *** ******* training.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
•Feb 14, 2020

***** ******** ** *** * ******** director..."Do *** ************ **** * **** with *** ** ********, ** ** you ********** *** *******?"

**** ****** ********** *** * ****** is ******** ** ******* ******* ***...****** or ********.

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