IPVM Barred From Visiting Motorola / Avigilon USA Manufacturing Facility

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2023
IPVM

Related / background 2019: Avigilon USA Factory Visit Report

******** ** ******** *********** "**** *** Motorola ********* ************* ********"** *********** **** **** *** **** being **** ** ****** **** *****.

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******** **** ****** **** **** **** us *********** ** ** ***** ** on ****.

*******, ******** *** **** ****** ** from ******** *** ******** ****** **** "** ***** ***** ********** **** **** event. ** ** *** ********* *** channel ******** ****."

** ******** ** ********** ***** ******** on * ********* *** ** ******** session, ******** ***** *** *******.

** ** *** **** *** ******** has **** ******** ****** ** ** a *** *** ** **** *** when, ******* ** ****** *****, ******** can *******. ** *** ***** ****, our ******** ***** ** ** **** critical *** ** **** ******** ** send * *** ** ********** *********** to *** ****** ********* *** ******* greater ********.

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Undisclosed #1
•Sep 04, 2023

"** ***** ***** ********** **** **** event. ** ** *** ********* *** channel ******** ****."

**** ***'* ************ ******.

**** ****, * ** *** * customer ** ******** - *** ** I * ******* *******.

** * ** ****** **** *** tour ** ****.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #1

** **** *******, ** *** * customer ** ******** ********. ** *** Avigilon ******** *********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #2
•Sep 04, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

*** *** ** ******** ********* ******* with ********?

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #2

***** *********** **** "********* *** ******* ******** ****". ** are * ********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 04, 2023

*** ***** **** **** *** ************ to ****** * ******* **** ***** as **** **** **** ***** **** it.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

* ****** *** **** **** ** a **** *** ****'* **** *** I **** ** ******* **** ****** think **** ** * ******* *****.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 04, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

***, ** *** ******** * *** of *****.

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 05, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #3

** *** ***-**-***** **** ***** ****, recall *** ********* **** ***** ******** editor **** ** **** -********* **** *** ***** *** ******* China ****

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***** **** ********* **** ***** ***** editor ********* ** **** ******** *** I **** ***** ** *** ****** or ***** ** **** ***** - the ******* ***** *** * ***'* who ** *** ***** ********* ** the ****.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
•Sep 04, 2023

**** ******'** *** ****** ******* ** a ****** ****** ** ***** ******* as * *** ** ****** ********* to ***** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Sep 04, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #4

****’* * ***** ****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
•Sep 04, 2023

* *** ********** ********** ********* ******* "no *****" ****** **** ********* *** partners. **'* **** ** ****** **** Motorola ****'* ***** ****, **** **** for ******** ** *** ***** ****. Both *** ******* *******. * ***** understand ******** ********* **** ****** **** asking ******* *** ******* *********** ********* would ****** *** ****** ** *** event.

***, * **** ***** ****************** * ******** ***** ***** ** IPVM-specific ***** **** * ******* **** where **** *** *** *********. **** good ******** ****.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

******** ****** **** * ******** ***** event ** ****-******** ***** **** * similar **** ***** **** *** *** questions

* ***** **** ****. * ******** proactively ***** ******** ***** ***** **** that ** ** ***** *** ********* with *** ******* ***. * *** understand ****. **** * *** ********* about ** **** **'* ****** ***** that **'* * ******* ******* ** IPVM ** * ******** ** ********** about *** ****-******** *** (****** *** * ***** ***) ***** *** *******.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 04, 2023
IPVM

**** * ******* *** ***** ** clarify **** ** *** ****** *** just **** *** ******** **** *** generally **** ******** *** ********.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia

**’* * ************* ********, ******* ***** could ****** **** **** **; *’* surprised **** ****’* ***** ********** ** you ** ** * ****.

* ***’* ******* *** **** **** IPVM ***** **** ***** **** **** a ******** **** * ******* ****’* got * ****** ***** ******.

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RS
Robert Shih
•Sep 05, 2023
Independent
In reply to James Mifsud

*** ***** **** ** **** *** the ******** *** ****.

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U
Undisclosed #8
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

* ***’* ******* *** **** **** IPVM ***** **** ***** **** **** a ********

* *** **** ** **** ***** time ** ****, *******!!

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RS
Robert Shih
•Sep 05, 2023
Independent
In reply to Undisclosed #8

**** ** *** **** ** "*****".

****'* ***** ** **** *** ** edit ** ** ***** ******** **** a *** ***** ****** ******* ******! Wait... ***** *** **** **********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #10
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

* **** - *** ********* *****'* a *** ***** ** ****. ******** was *** ********* **** *** ****** all *** ********* ******.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #10

*** ******* *** ******** *** * lot ********* **** *****.

******** *** ******* ******

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James Mifsud
•Sep 06, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to John Honovich

******* ******* ***** ******** *** ******** section *** **** *********** *** **** entertaining.

RS
Robert Shih
•Sep 06, 2023
Independent
In reply to John Honovich

*** **** **** **** **** ****** Dynacolor?

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U
Undisclosed #8
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Robert Shih

**** *** *** ******* *****? **** were ***** ****** ********* *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #8

** ****** ** *** **** ********* info ****** **** ** **** ***** Avigilon.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #12
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

"* ***’* ******* *** **** **** IPVM ***** **** ***** **** **** a ******** ..."

*** *** ***** *******? ******** ****** barred *** ***** *** **** ****** an ******* **** * ******** ****.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

*** ***** ***** ** ******* ******** that *** **** ******** ** ****. Given *** ********** ** ****, **'* clear **** **** ******* **** **** interesting.

**'* *** ** *******, ***. **'* a **********. ** *** ********** *** smaller ***** **** **** ** ***** them *** *** ** *** **** level ** *******.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 06, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #12

***!

** *** ******* ***** * ************ tour, *** **** ******** ******** ***** was ******* ***** - ***** ** a ********.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Sep 05, 2023

******* *****: **’* ** ********* ***** and ****** ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

*** *****?

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

*** *** ** ** *** *** in ** *******

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

***... **** ** *** ****.

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RL
Randy Lines
•Sep 05, 2023

** ** **** ***. * ****** to **** ***** ********* *** ******** answers ** ***** ****** ... **** when **** *** *** ** *********. I ***** ****** **** ** *** actual ************* ********, **** ****** **** the ***** ** ****** *** ******** of ********* *** *** ********* ?

** ******, ** ** ********* ** media ** ** *********** *** *** "hikack" *** ***** *** ** ****.

***

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
•Sep 05, 2023

***** *** * ****** * ***** US ***** ************ *** ******** **** in *** *** ** *** ****** closely ****** *** ******* ** ******** flags ***’* **** ***** **** *****. They **** *** ***** ***** **** of *** ********. *** ********** ******** is ***** ****, *** ***** *** precedent ******** ** **** ********. ***** competitors *** ******* **** ** ***** and *******, * ***** **’* ***** they’re *** *********** ******* *** ***** when ****’** *** ** **** *** the **** ** **** **** * week.

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RS
Robert Shih
•Sep 05, 2023
Independent

* *** **** ****'* **** **** reporting **** **** *** ***** ******* off *** ***** **** ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to Robert Shih

* ***'* ***** **** ** * secret.

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RS
Robert Shih
•Sep 05, 2023
Independent
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

**'* ***, *** ******** *** **** more ***********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to Robert Shih

* ** ******* ** *** **** is ***********... *** *** * ****** that ******** ** ****** *** ************* for ******* **-*****.

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 05, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

******** ** ****** *** ************* *** cameras **-*****.

******** *** **** ***** ************* "**-*****" for ********* *** ***** ******** *** many, **** *****, ** ****'* *** really ****. * ******* **** ** a *** ******** *** ****** **** Pelco *** *** **** ***** **** but **'* *** * *********** ****** given ***** **** ** ********.

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RS
Robert Shih
•Sep 05, 2023
Independent
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

*'* **** ****** ** **** ** a *********** ***-******* *****. ** ***** be *** *** *****'* ****** ** seeming **** * ****** ***** *** not **** ********* ******* ** ****** defunct.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to Robert Shih

*** ***** **** ** *** *** Pelco? ******** ** ******* * *** of ***** **** ***** *** ******** to *********** **** **-*****. **** **** are ******* **** ******** ******** ** the *******. ***** ******* ** *** how **** ** * *** ***** for *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

***** *** ******** *** ****** *** the **** ****. **** *******. **** Ava’s **** ** ** ****.

MS
Mark Schweitzer
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

*** ****, **** ********* *** *** version ** *** **** *****.*** & ****** ** ******** *******: Indoor / ******* ****

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 06, 2023
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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Robert Shih

****** **** **’* **** ********* **** the *** *****’* *** ******* ******** technology ****** ** ****; ****** * more ******* ****** *’** ***** ** that ******** ******* **** ** ********* to ***** *** *** ******** **** for ******** ******* *** **** ********** for *** ******** ********.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 05, 2023
IPVM
In reply to James Mifsud

****'* *** ********** **** ******** ******** has **** *** **** ** **** sense ***** ***** ****** ********** *.*.********: *** *** ******** ****** ******** "Alta", ******** ******* "*****",******** "**********" *** *** ******** ******, Avigilon *** ***** ****** "*******"

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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to John Honovich

**** **,

*** ******** ************* ***** *** ******** brand ** ******* ******** ********* ****.

********, ** ***** *** * ** putting * *** ** ********* **** the ***** *****; *’* ******** **’* got ***** *********** **** ******** *****’*.

****** *** ****** ***** * ****** younger, *** **** ***** ***** **** to ** **** ********. *****’* **** that ********** ** ******, *** ******** of ******* *’** ******** **** **** Pelco’s.

**** **** ****, ******** *** **** that *********** **** ** ********** **** the ******** ***** ************.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 05, 2023
IPVM
In reply to James Mifsud

********, ** ***** *** * ** putting * *** ** ********* **** the ***** *****; *’* ******** **’* got ***** *********** **** ******** *****’*.

* ***'* ***** ****'* ******* *** how ******** ** ***********. ** ***** with ********'* **** ** ****** ** detail ********** ***** **** *** **** are ******* ** ***** * ***** linked *****.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to John Honovich

********** *** ************* ****, **’* **** what *’** **** **** ******** ** the ***** ******** **** ** ** account ******* ** *** ******** *****.

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 05, 2023
IPVM
In reply to James Mifsud

* ** ********* ***** **** ** because **** ** **** ** ****** people ** *** ******** ****** *** world, ** ****** *** ***** ********** rep *** **** ****** *********** ** he's ***** / ** *** *************. I ** ****** **** **'* *** latter *** * **** ** ***** creating * **** ***** *** ******* people ** ******** *** **** ** reading ****.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to John Honovich

***** ****,

* ********** **** ********, *’* ****** happy ** ** ***** *** *********. In **** ********** ******** *’** **** misinformed *** ********** *** *************. **** has ****** **** * ***** ****** of *********, *** **** ***** *********** is ***** ***** ** ******** *** learn.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #10
•Sep 07, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

****** ******** ** ***** ********* *** your ***** ******* ***** :)

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #11
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

******** *** ******* *** ********** ** a ******** ** **** * **** on ********* ****** ******** **** **** in ******* / *** ******** ************. In *** **** ** *** **** common *** ****** ************* ** **** exception ** *** *********** ** *** loophole **** ** *** *** ******* made ******* ** ***** *** *** 3 ************* ** *******. ******** **** all ***** ****** *********** ******* **** exception. ***** **** ***'* **** **** to ** *** *** ** **** that ************.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

*** **** *** ****** ** *********.

***** ** *** ************ ****.

******** ** *** ****** ****.

**'* ****** ******.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

**** **** ****** *** *********** **** mean, *** *** *** **** ****** distributor.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 05, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

*** ** *** **.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 05, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

** *********, ** *** **, ******** / ********'* **** ******, ******** ** only ********* *** *** ************ ** dealers. ** ********, ***** ** **** through ************ *** *** ** ****** by ****** *** *** ** *** account, *.*.

******** ****** **** **** ** *** to *** *** ******** *** **** for *****. *** **** **** *** Pelco **** **** ** ***** **** through ************ ***** **'* ***** ** work *** ** **** **** *** system. ******** ** *** * ****** system *** **'* ********* ******** ** be **** ***-**-***.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 05, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to John Honovich

**** *** ********* * *** ******* of, * ****** **** ******** *** direct **** ** ******* *** *** smaller *********** **** **** ******* ************.

**’* *********** ****** *** ****** ******* in ***** *********, ********* *** ********* is **** ** ********* *** *** in *** **.

****** *** ********** ****** *** ****** to ******* ******** *** ****** **** too.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #13
•Sep 06, 2023

******** ** ******** ******* ******* ** be ********/ ********'* *** ** ******* people **** ** ***** ************* ******** in ******. ******** **** ***** ****** go ** ********. ****** ****** ** DC *** **** *****, * **** seen **** ****** **** *** * company **** ******* ********, ** ******* changes *** ******** ** ****** *** tours.

** **** ***'* **** *********, ** what, **** ** ***** ***** ***** every ******* *** ****** ** ** business ** **** ****** ** **** as ** ** *** ********* ******' rights. ** *** *** ** ******* to ****. **** *** *****, ******, or ******** **** **** ** **.

**** ****** **** *** * ********; the ******** ******* ***** ** * customer. **, ****! ** **** ****** to ** ***** ** ****** * because **** **** ** ******** *. (DUH, ***** ** * *** **********)

**** *** ** ****** ** **** 2 ***** **** *** *****, *** maybe ** **** ** ****** ** travel, ******* ***** **** ****** **** not **** ****. **** *** ****** than * ** *, **** ***'*.

* ***'* *** **** ********* **** from ******** ***** ******** ** * different ****. **** *** ***** **** brought ** ******, **** **** **** been ******** * *****. **** ***** haven't **** ******** * ***** **** the ***** **** *** ********* **** has **** ******* *** ***** ******* or *********.

**** ***** ** ** *** ****** thinking, **, ***** ***** ** ********* wrong ***** ** * ****** ****** in ******* ****** ** **** **** has **** *******.

**** ***, ** ******, * **** the ***** *** ** ******! *** sympathy.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #14
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #13

** *** *** **** *** *******, Motorola *** ******* **** **** ******* at * ********* ***/**** ** ****.

* ***** **** **** ****** **** a ******** ***** **** ***** ***** but **** ****'* **** ******* ** well.

******** ** ****** ***** ****** ** bar **** **** ***** ******** *** IPVM ** **** ****** ***** ****** to ****** ** ** *** *** why.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM

** *** ***** ** *** ***** being ******, ******* *** ****:******'* ****: **** **** *** *** at ***? (*****) | ******** **** Watch

**** * **** **** ********. *****'* going ** ** ******** ** ****** (or ****) ** **** **** ** what **** ******** ***** **?

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U
Undisclosed #1
•Sep 06, 2023

******* @ ***: "** *** *** me ** *** **** *****...*** ** know ********* *********** **** *** *** to ***."

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #15
•Sep 06, 2023

* ***** *** ** ***** *** some ********* ** ******* ***** ***** and **** ** *** **** ** one ** *** **** *****-****'* ****** and ********** ********** ** *** *********. You *** *** ****** **** ******** the ********, *** *** **** *** allowed ** **** ** **** *****. Now, ** **** **** **** *** say, "** *** *** ******** ***** and/or ************ **** ** **** ****.", then ***, * ***** ***** **** you. ** ** *** ***** *** many ***** ********** *** **** *** they **** *** *** *** ***** get **** ** *** **** *** could *** *** **** *********** ******, but * ********** ******** **** **** premise *** **** ********** ***********.

***, * ********** *** *** * "customer", **** *** ********** **** *** purchase *******, *** *** ******* ****** for **** ** ** ******** ** and *** ****** ** **, ** you *** *** * *********** ******** and ***'* ****** ** *** ****** that **** ***** ** ****** *******.

* ****** ****** ** **** **** reporting **** ***** **** ***.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #15

*** *** *** ****** **** ******** the ********, *** *** **** *** allowed ** **** ** **** *****.

*** *** ***** ***** ****. *'** asked ******** ********** ***** ** ********* separately ** * ********* **** *** they **** *** *********. * ****** force **** ** ******* *** ***** lack ** ******** *** * **** later ***** ***** ******** *****. *** Motorola ******** ** ** *** *** time ** ****** **** **** ** respond **.

***** **** ****** ***** ******** *****.

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U
Undisclosed #1
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

***** **** ****** ***** ******** *****.

**** ** *** ****** *** ******** in ****** ***** ***** ** ***** 4+ ** *** ************* ********?

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #1

**** **** **** **** ** **** is * *****, ****** ***.

U
Undisclosed #1
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

...*** ***'** **** ************ *** ****** story ** *** ********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #15
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #1

* ********. ***** ** * *** of ***** ** ******* ** **** and *** * ************'* ********, ********** in **** *** ** *********** *** verifying ****** ***** *** *****-********.

* ***** **** ** *** ** article ** **** ** **** **** find, ********** ** **** *** ***** to *** * *** ** ******** technical/engineering *********. ***** ** *** *'* be **** **** ********** ** **** that ******** ** ******* ***** *** organizations **** **** ** ******** **** and **** **** ** ** * technical *****. ** ** *** **** way ** *** **** **** ******. I **** ***'* ***** ** *** there ***.

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U
Undisclosed #1
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #15

* ***** **** ** *** ** article ** **** ** **** **** find, ********** ** **** *** ***** to *** * *** ** ******** technical/engineering *********.

******* ********: *** ******************** **** ******* ********** ** **** a *****?

***** ******* ** ********** *** **** ** ** **.

** *** ********? ** **, **** one.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #15
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

****, *'* *****, *** *'* ***. It ***** **** **** **** ** have *****, ** *** ******* *****, before ********** **** *** ***** ******* times, ** ***** * ***** ***, you *** ******* ******, *******, * week ** *******. ***, ** *** title *** "****** **** * ******** Event" *** ***** **** * ***** but * ***** ****** ** * bit ******. "*** ******* ** **** to * ******** *****" ** * much **** ******** *****. **** ** a ***** ** **** **** ******* you *** ****** ****** ****** ***** you *** ***** ******* ** **** to *** ********, ******* **** ** what **** ***** **.

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JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #15

**** ** * ***** ** **** just ******* *** ***

** **** **** ***** ****** ********* on * ******* *****. **** ***** promptly ** ********* ********** ****** **** dont **** ** *******.

**** **** *** **** ** * days *** ****'** **** ** ** well.

**** ****'* ******* **** **** ***** repeated ********. **** *** *** ****** up **** ****.

***** ******** ** *****. * ***** it's *********** ** ***** *** * don't **** ** ** * **** thing.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

*** **** *** *** *** ******* access ** *** *****?

JH
John Honovich
•Sep 06, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

** ***** ***** ** **** ***, Motorola ********* * ***** ** ** discussed **** *** **** ******* ********** 6 **** *** ***** ** ********** asked *** * ******** ***** / date.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Sep 06, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

** **** **** *** ***** ****** a ***** ***** ****? **** **** no ***** *** * ** **** they **** * *** ***** ** with *** *** **** *****. ***** just ** *** * **** **** for * ******* **** **** ** you **** *********.

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