Choosing An IP Camera System: Should I Be Able To Convince My Customers That They Should Be Spending $10,000 On An 8-Channel System Instead Of $3,000?

I am a very small shop that installs security camera systems, usually under 16 cameras per job. I am not thrilled about purchasing re branded "Chinese" cameras and NVRs, but when I look at the alternatives (Axis or Avigilon), the price is just too expensive. As an example, I can get a "decent" 4K bullet cam for around $250 per camera. It is my understanding that the non-Chinese alternative would be at least 4 times the price. I have no doubt, based on the excellent reviews conducted by IPVM, that the Axis or Avigilon cameras are superior. Unfortunately my customers seem to think the Chinese made cameras are, "good enough" for the price.

Should I be able to convince my customers that they should be spending $10,000 on an 8-channel system instead of $3,000? For almost all my customers, 4 times the price is the end of the discussion. Perhaps it is just the types of customers I have. Am I missing something?

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** * ***** *** millions ** ***** ******* that *** **** ***** year ** *********** *** OEMs *** **** ** crappy ***********?

*** ***'* **** ******* buy * ******** **** they **** * **** budget.

*** ****, **'* ***** or *******.

******: **** ******* *** been ***** ** *** own **********:*** *** ******** ** Hikua ******* **** ***** Year ** *********** *** OEMs **** ** ****** Salespeople?

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*** ****. * ***** *** *** ******* *** ***** *****. UI6 **** ** ***** ** *** *** **** ** **** because ** *****'* ******* **** ***** ** ******** *** **** that.

* **** **** ** find ** *** *****.

***** *** * ***** **** ** *** *** **** ******* the ******** *****. * **** ** *****, ** ****** ** hardware.

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*** **** ** **** to *** ********. ** this ** * *-* camera ******* *** **** do *****, ****'* ****** too *********. * ***** push *****, *********, ******, etc ****** ** *** going ** ** ** cameras.

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* ***** ********* *** a **** ******* *** up ** * *******. I **** ** *** years ***. *** *** combine *** ********* ****** with ***** ******** (**** storage, *******-******, **** ********, ...) ** *** *********** customer **** *** * good *** ***** *********. But *'* ***** *** Hik/Dahua *** *** *******.

*** **********, *'* ** with ********** ** **** is * *******.

**** * ********* *** your *******.

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********* ** *** **** and *** *** ****** choose.

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** ******** **** *******/******** a ******* ****** **** a ****** *** **** back ** ** ***** having ** ********* *-***** ago. **** **** **** to ** ** *********** and ********* **** ** carte ******* ** *** them ** ***** **** wanted ** **.

*** ***** ****** **** even *** **** *** manufacturers ** ***, ****. But *******, **** *** minimal *** ** ***** are ***** ****** **** get ****** ***. *** us *** *** *******, consistency, *********, *********** *** the ************ ** **-***** support ** **** ***** the ***** **********.

**** *** ***** ******* at ******? **** ** be ******* ... **'** found ***** ******* ** be ** *** **** Western ******.

* *** * ********* theme ** ******** ********* are ********** *** ******'* care **** ***** ******* as ***** * **** reason ** ****** *** cheapest ******* ** *** can ***** **** *****. I ***** **** **** integrity *** *** ******* to ******* **** ********* so ***** **** **** the **** *** *** the ****. * **** build ** ********** ******** from $** ** $**** over ** ***** *** by ***** *** "********" but ** ***** ********** to *** ***** ** customers *** ********* *********** that **** *** **** the **** **** *** just ***** *** **** week. ***** ** ****** least ********* *** *** will ****** **** *** race ** *** ****** of ***** *** ******** by ***** *** ** business *** ******* **** customers **** * ****. Good **** --- *** will **** **. @*************

"*** ****** *** ** customers, * ***** *** price ** *** *** of *** **********"

*** *** *** **** asking? *** *** ********** waste ********* ***** ** Axis *** ***** ********* stuff. *** ********* *** mostly *********** *** *** small **********, ** * understand, ** **** *** the ***** ******. **** going **** ***/*****. **** pay **** ********* ** cybersecurity. *** **** **** would ** ** ****** some **** ** *********** the ********/*** ********* *** setup * ****** *** (based ** **-*, *** example) **** *** *** use *** *** *** customers. *** **** *** up **** * **** quality **** ****** ******* by *** *** ********* Ubiquiti ******.

*** *** ** *** answer ***'** ******* ***, but *** *** *** selling **** ** *******? Are **** ********* ** monitors *** **** ******* these *******? *'** **** in **** ***** ****** myself ** *** ****, we ***** **** **** 2MP *** ***** ***** of **********. ** ***** found **** **** ****** that **** ******. *'* sure *** ***** **** an ****/******** ****** **** cost ********* ** *** were ** **** ***** range.

** * **** ****, Hanwha ****'* ***** ** the ******, *** **** do **** ****** ********* cameras ** *** ******* price **** **** ******.

*** ******* ** *** need ** ** ** resolution, **'* **** *** not ********* *** **** applications. *** *** ** the ***** ***** ** do *** ******** *** build **** ***** ***** out *** ********* ** all *** ****** ****** you *** ********* *****.

****'* **** ****** **** about ***** * ***** ago *** ***** **-******* 10 ***** ***.

**....**** ** **** *** resolution ********** ** **** futuristic ***** ******?

** ******** **....

***********: ***, **** **** and **** *** ****.

***********: *** ****, ** just ***** *** ******* engineer.

***********: **** **** ** we *** *** *** best ***** ********** ***** can ***, ******* ** when * *** **** but ** * ***** people **** ** ********* their ******* ***** ***, well *** ***'* **** to ******* ** *** preparing *** **** ***** now. ***** ** ****** of "******* ******* ******, your ***** **** ** well *****", *** ******** once ****** **** ******* interests ******* ******* ************ and ** ****** ****** did *** **** **** the **** ** *** talking *****. **** ******* we *** **** ** go, *** ** *** can **** ***** **** line ***** ****...

***** *** **** **** are **** **** ******** for **** ***********. ** is ********.

***** ** ********* *** with *** ********* *******, those ******* ****** **** those ******* ** ***, especially *** *** ** the ***** ****. **** must *** ** ********* in ***...

*** *** *********** ******** at ***. ****** ** fact, ** *** ********* provide **** ************ ********. Sure, *** ******** *********, like **** *** *** viewing * ***** ***** like * *****, ***** will ** **** *** you ******** ***** *** see *** **** ******* by ***** ** ****. Do **** **** **** 720p ** ******* *******? at *** ****, **** you **** ***** ****** in * **** ****, this ** ***** ** prevails. **** ** * small **** ** *** comparing *****, ***, *** 4K. **** ** ** a ***** *.**** ***** of ***** **** ** only ***** **' **** using * *** ****:

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****, *****, * ********* that *** *** * newer ** ****** *** test *** ********* *********** yourself. * *** **** by ******* **** *** have ***** **** *** have *** ****** **** for ********.

****, *****, **** ***** might ** ******** **** of *** ****. *** 4K ***** ******, ******. It ******* ** **** your ****** *****. ******** Avatar ** ******** ** a ***** ****, *** looks ****** ** * 4K ****.

*** ** ****** **** make **** ******* ***** and **** *** ********* popular, ********** **** *****-***** video *********. * *** tell ** ******* **** responses ********** ******** **** to **** ********** *** are ***** ** ***** "sexy" *** *** *********. I *** **** **** you **** ***** **** on *** ******** **** and ******** *** ** comb ******* ***** ** video ******* *** *********. I *** **** **** you **** ***** ******* large ****** **** *******. 4K *** ** ***** for * ** * cameras *** *** ****** line ** (******** ** this **** ******* **) 4K **** *-** *** bandwidth *** ******* ** a ***** ******. ** your ***** ******* ******** different *** *** *** streaming ** **** **.

***** *** ***** **** shots, *** *** ********* is ** **** *** need ** **** * sign ** * ****** for **** ******** ********? I *** **** *** from ********** * **** caught ** **** **** a ******* ** **+ yards **** ***** * 5mp ****** **** * 2mm *** * *-**** lens. ** **** ********* the ******* *** ****** as ****. * ****** doubt * $*** ** camera ***** ** **** to ********** *** *** motion.

* ****** ********* *** check *** *** ******** and *********** ******** ** this ****. ***** *** many ********* *** **** shots **** **** **** you *** ** **** the ******* ****, *********** settings, **********, *** ** get *** *** *** out ** * *****+ cameras...4K ** *** ********* all ****** **********. **** please ***** *** *** camera ********** ****, ** is **** ******* *** giving ******** ** ******** image.

******* ***** ***** **, yes ** *** ** wide ***** *** *** can ******* ** **** more. *** *** **** one ***** ** *******, if **** ****** **** down *** **** ** other *** ** ******* your ****.

**'** ** ***** * new ***** ** ** tests **** *** **** include ********* ** ***** / ***, ***. *******:*** **** ** ****** Shootout - **** ****** We *******?

*** ** ****** **** make **** ******* ***** and **** *** ********* popular, ********** **** *****-***** video *********.

*** ** ******* ***** professional ******** ******* ** web *** ****** ********?

* **** ****** ** info **** * ******* at **+ ***** **** using * *** ****** with * ***

**** ** ***' ****. i ***** ******* **** to *** ***** ** this.

******* ***** ***** **, yes ** *** ** wide ***** *** *** can ******* ** **** more. *** *** **** one ***** ** *******, if **** ****** **** down *** **** ** other *** ** ******* your ****.

**!?!? *** **** ***** go *** *** ****** in *** ********. ** are *** ********* ** put ** (*) *** cameras ** ***** ** (1) ** ****** *** fail **** ********? ** so, ** **** *********?

***** *** *** ** know **** ******** ** cameras *** **** ********** with? ****, **** ********* and ********* *** **** favorite *** ******* *** to ** ******* *** a ******* *****?

************ ******* **** ** reputable ************* **** ** Axis, ******** ********, *****, Samsung, ***. *****'* *** cloud ********, ****** (**?) is ******** ***** ** 1 & *** *******. Are *** ******** **** cloud *********? * ** going ** *** *** use **** *** *** installations ** ****?

* **** **** ** fire ** ** *** hard *****, ***** ***** will ** **** ***** 5 ***** ***. **** were ***** ***** **** cameras, * ******* **** were *** *** *** Q ******. **** * or *** ********** *** to ***** *** **** quality *.***. * ******* it *** * ***** lens ** ****.

** * ** *** proposing **** ** ***. I ** ****** ****** if *** *** ***** 1 ** ****** *** a **** ***** **** you **** *** ***** of *******. * ***** suggest *********** ***** ***-*** cameras ****** ** ** areas ** ******** *** settings ****** ** ** compensate *** ****** ****, and ** ******** ********* and ******* ***** *** sacrificing *******. ***** ** a ***** ******* ** this **** ********* ********** v ***********, ****** ***** it ***.

*** *** ** ******* but ****. **** **** a *** ****** ** a ****** ******* *.*** compression. **** *** *** in * ******* ** a ***** ****** ****, I **** ******** *** it ** **** ** 1080p **********, ***** ** but ***** ***'* **** of * ********** ******* those. ** *** *** doing ******** **** **** 15-20 *** *** ******* your ********* ******* *** bandwidth. * ******* *** only **** ***** ** count *****, ******* *** have **-** *** ** the **** ******. ***** the ************** ******** *** would **** ***** ***** of ****** ** ******* distances.

* *** **, *** want ** **** ********* test ***** ** ** cameras ******* * ******* ticket **** *** **** away. ****'* **** *** if ****'* **** ***** model *** **** ********** than **** ***** ** you. *** ** *** are ****** ********* ***** if *** ** *** cameras ***** ***** * don't ***** ** *** have * ********** ************. Having **** **** * am ***** ** **** away *** *** ******* we *** ** **** back *** ***** *** day. *'** **** ******** in ***** ***** ** CCTV ******* *** **** 10 *****; *** **** sporting ******, ************, ********, military **********, ***** ********, etc. *'** **** *** numbers *** ***** *** systems.

* ***** **** *** cameras **** *****. * did ******* *** "** they **** **** **** IP ******* *******?" ***** I ***** ** * valid ********. * ** acknowledge *** ******* ***** there ** ***** * time *** ***** *** 2MP *********. * **** agree **** *** **** sometimes *********** ******* *** better **** **** *** camera. *** ****** ****** peek ****** ******* *** see ********* ******. *******, I ** ****** **** 4K ******* ** **** better **** *** *******, im **** *** *** agree **** ** ** this, *** **** ******* want *** ****, ********** if ** ** ****** overkill.

******* *** *** ******* that ** ******* *** mostly************** *** **** *** 5 ***** *** ********* that * *** ****** uses. **** ********** *** wrong *** *** **** part. ***** *** **** times ***** * ** camera **** ******* ********** a ***** ******, *** the ******* ****** ** mostly * **** ***** now **** *.*** *********** and **** ***** ***** not **** ** * factor ** **** **** to **.

*** ****** *** * was ***** ** *** you **** **** ***** rate *** *** **** on **** *** *******, is ******* * *** going ** **** *** a ******* **** **** a ** ****** ***** the **** ******** ******* with *** *** *******, its ***** *** ****** used *** ** *** new ** ******* ** I *** ***** ** show *** ** *** could *** *** ********.

* **** **** ** *** **** ****** ******* **** **** messages ********:

** *** ** ***** *** * ** * ******* *** the ****** **** ** (******** ** **** **** ******* **) 4K **** *-** *** ********* *** ******* ** * ***** camera. ** **** ***** ******* ******** ********* *** *** *** streaming ** **** **.

*** ****. * **** **** *** ******** ** ******* ** every ****. * ***** *** ***** **** ****** ****, *** 8 ***. ** ******, **** ***** *******.

**** ****** ***** *** *** ****** ********** ****

*** **** ********* ******* ****'* ******* ************ **** *** ****-**** tests.

******* ***** ***** **, *** ** *** ** **** ***** and *** *** ******* ** **** ****. *** *** **** one ***** ** *******, ** **** ****** **** **** *** have ** ***** *** ** ******* **** ****.

"* ****** ********* *** ***** *** *** ******** *** *********** material" ***** ********** *********** *** ******* ********** *******. ********** **** you ** *** ***** ********. *** ****** **** * ******* administrator ** *** **** * **** ** ********* ** **** area.

*****'* *** ***** ********, ****** (**?) ** ******** ***** ** 1 & *** *******. *** *** ******** **** ***** *********?

****** ** * ***-**** ********. ***** ****** **** ******* ** get **** *********** *** **** *******.

* ** ***** ** *** *** *** **** *** *** installations ** ****?

**** ****** ***** ***** ***** *** *** **** **** (**** that's ** ******** *** *** ******, *** **** *** **** is ******* *** **** ******), *** *** ***** *** **** Cat6. * ***** ***** ****** *** ***** **** ** ******** 3-5 **** ********* ******** ** *****. **** *** **** **** education.

**** **** * *** ****** ** * ****** ******* *.*** compression. **** *** *** ** * ******* ** * ***** common ****, * **** ******** *** ** ** **** ** 1080p **********, ***** ** *** ***** ***'* **** ** * difference ******* *****. ** *** *** ***** ******** **** **** 15-20 *** *** ******* **** ********* ******* *** *********.

*'** ***** ** ********. ** * **** ** ****? * fps, *.***, ***. ****** ******* (************ *****?) - *** * understand *** *** **** ****** **** *** *********.

*'** **** ******** ** ***** ***** ** **** ******* *** over ** *****; *** **** ******** ******, ************, ********, ******** facilities, ***** ********, ***.

* *** * ***** ******* ******* ******. ** *** **** 60+ ***** ***, ****** ** ******** *** ********** **********, *** enough ****** ********* ***** ****** ************. *** **** **** *** on *** *** ******** ******* *** ******** ****** ** ***. It's *** ***** *** ***** **** ** *** *** ** the ***, *** **** ********* ******.

********, **** ********** ******** ** **** ******* ***** ********** **** hundred ********-************, *** ***** ** **** *** ****** ****.

****** ** *** *** residential. * **** ******* a *** ****** ********** for **** ****** ***** the ********'* ******** ***** network ********. ** ** not *** **** ** any *****, ********** ****-**** compared ** ******* ******* onsite.

* **** ** ******* that * **** ****** to ** **** ***** to ******* ********* **. I **** **** ******** different ******* ********** *****, the ******* ********** *** looked ** *** *** statistics ** ****. ** instead ** ****** ** opinion * *** ********* a ********* ** ******** different ***********, *** **** are ******** * *** but **** *** * baseline.

* **** **** ****** with *********. **** *** and ****** ************'* **** started ********** *.*** ****** the **** *-* *****. What ** ***** **** 7fps? *** **% ** applications **** **** ***** everything *** ****. **** you **** **** ** side *********** ******* ********* fps ********? ***** ***'* much ** * ********* between *-**. ** *** think ***** ** **** one ******* *** *********** please *** **** *******, very ***********: *****://****.***/*******/*****-*******

** ***, ***** ** terminology *** *** *** "quantization." * ***** ********** I **** ** ** that ***** *** ****** out ******* *'* ***** an ***** ****, **** you **** **** ** pick ** **** * meant ******.

***** *** *** ******** my *** *** "*****" experience, *** ******'* ** farther *** ** **** assessment.

**** * **** ** the ********* *******. ** your ******** ***** ** to **** ******** ******* the "******* ** ******" and "** ***** ******" than **** ***** ** you. *** ** *** you, ** *** ***** the **** ***** **** you ***** ***'* ** workstations? ** *** **** it ** **** *** max ****** ** ***, high-end ***** *****, *** or ** *** **** them **** **** ******** need? *** ***** * car, "*** **** **** V8 ******* ** ****** great, ***** ****** *** it ****** ****** *** back ** **** ****" I've **** ** **** follower ** **** **** for ***** *** **** even *********** ******** ** this ****. ** ******** is ***** *** *'* sure ***** ** ** well. *'* **** *** in *** ******** ** selling ********'* ********* **** do *** ****. ***** had *** **********, ********** with **** ***** *********** where * ******** *** entire ****** ********* *** network. ** ** ***** for ***** ***** ***** monitoring, *** *** ****** zoom ** ** *** who ******* *** ***** or *** ***** ***** on *** ****.

*'* ******** **** **** this ** **** ******* all ** *** ***** is ***** ** *******.

****** ** *** *** residential. * **** ******* a *** ****** ********** for **** ****** ***** the ********'* ******** ***** network ********. ** ** not *** **** ** any *****, ********** ****-**** compared ** ******* ******* onsite.

*** **** * ****** site *** ******? ** have **** ****** ******* hard **** ****** *** I **** ***'* *** how **** ******** ** a **** *** *** an ********** ******** ****** they **** * ******* at *** *********. ******* cameras, ******* **********, ** integration, **** ********* *******, single ****** *********/*********, *** if *** ***'* *** the **** **** ******* stop *******.

** *** * ****** site **** ******** *********. Yes, * ***** ** talk **** *** ** it *** **** ** sat **** *** **** over *** ******* *** how **** **** ** manage ** **** ** made * *** **** sense. ***** *** ** "in" *** ** ***** network **********. **** ***** this ***** ** ***** ago *** ****** *********.

**** *** * ********** school **** *** ** the ****** ******** * have **** ******. ** utilized ***** ******** ***** switches ********** *** ******, we *** **** *** cameras ******** **** *** switch *** **** *** to *** ***** ** goes. ** **** *** extra ****** ******** ** onsite *******. *** ******* have **** ******* ***** in *** ******* *****.

**** **** ****** ***** to $****/**** **** ** server ***********. **** **** running ******* *** ***** and ****** *** *** integration **** *** *** being ******** *** **** and ** ****'* * selling ***** *** ****. Once *** ****** ** license *****, ******** ********, etc ** **** **** sense *** ****. ** a *** **** **** they ***** **** ******** cameras ****** ******. **** went **** * ********* server ***** *** *** cost ** **** *** all ** *** ********* was *** ****. **** the ****** ******** ** the ****** *** *** hardware **** **** *********** the *-* **** ****...* lot ** *** ********* (mainly *** ******** **** drives *** ***********) ***** need ** ** ******** anyway ******* *** *********** plan ***** ** ****** cover **.

***, **** *** **** paying...no **** *****. **** was **** **** ***** to **** ******** ***** and **** **** ** with **. **** *** almost * **** *** so **** **** *** cameras ***** ** *** and *** **** ****....*'* curious *** **** **** feel ** * *****. Only **** **** ****.

** * *** ** use **** ****** ** search *** ****** ***** every *** * ***** chew ** *** ***. Meraki *** ***** ***** down **** *** ********* are ****** ** *** they *** ****** *** on **** ********* ******** and **** ******* ***** management *** *** ******.

* ******* * ****** camera **** ** **** and * *** ******* at *** ******/**** **** are ** *** *** how **** ********* **** use. *** *** **** search *** ****** *** camera ** * **** and *** **** ** wait *** *** ***** to ******* *** ***** before *** *** **** download *** *****. *** 3min ***** **** **** 15 *** ** ******* and ********. ******* ** you *** ** ***** that ******** **** **-** cameras ***** **** * 600 ****** ****** ** more **** ****** ** happen.

*** ******* ****** ****** is ******* ** * dome *** **** ***** which ** ***** **** someone ** ****** $**** for ** ******* ****** (Plus ****** ****) **** is ******* ** **** in ****.

**** ******, *** *** paying *** ** ********, proprietary ******** ***** ***** working ** *** ***'* pay **** ****** ****. SMH

***** ******** ****** ** a ****** ****. ******* is ***** ******** ****, Meraki ** ***** ***** level ** ****** ******** line, *** ***** ******* their ********** ********. ***** uses *******-***** ********** ***** Meraki ****** *****-***** **********.

** *** **** ****** is *** *** *********** is *** ******** *******. It's *** **** ****** from *** ***** ***** when *** **** ** include ********** *** ** a ******** ****** *** many ** *********** *** use *** ***** ***** management ** ******* ****** services.

**** ****** ***'* ***** money ** * ******* that **** ******** ****** 4k.

** ** ************ *******, its **** ***** *** and *********. ********* *** have ** **** *** requirements ** *** ************** (MP, *********, *********, ***) but *** *** ********** between * ****** **** will *** **** *** a ****** ***** *** one **** **** *** just **** *** *** 7, ***** *** *********** and ********* *** ****** integrate **** *** ****** that **** **** **** they **** ***. **** of *** **** *** cheaper ******* *** ******* in ***** *** *********. Ease ** ****** ******** is ******* **** **** const *************, ** ** management *** ****** ** the ****** ****** **** the **** *********** *** automated ********** ***** **** (i.e. ****** / *** / **** ****** ***** hardware).