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Anyone Know When This Might Get Released?

TH
Truman HW
Dec 25, 2017

https://www.unifore.net/company-highlights/hisilicon-released-hi3559-soc-features-high-speed-slow-motion.html

Looks awesome. 

 

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Anyone Know When This Might Get Released?

It just did.

Image processor developer Hisilicon has released the Hi3559A System-on-Chip (SoC) for high-speed video processing applications, it’s the first processor for Hisilicon Smart Vision Platform (SVP). The Hi3559A supports 8K ultra HD H.264/AVC and H.265/HEVC at 30 frames per second for multiple video streams with equivalent performance, for example VR camera that uses dual 4K/120fps sensors

JH
John Honovich
Dec 25, 2017
IPVM

Truman, are you asking when that SoC is being released or when cameras using that SoC will be released? The latter, in practice, typically takes around a year after the former.

You asked something similar here - Hisilicon Has Very Advanced Soc ... But The Surveillance Industry Insists On Using 4 Year Old Chips

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TH
Truman HW
Dec 26, 2017

In the interest of not stooping to their level John -- and out of deference to your accepting entry level learners, I'll let their ego's be obnoxious... of course, my premise being that the largest group here are manufactures or those who at best pay wholesale, but that there are few people here who have minimum orders of 10,000 components for manufacturing.

The chip exists. (Thanks to captain obvious). I was asking when something I SAW exists, will be available to consumers. 

My assumption (probably wrong) of,

"When will this component reach consumers?"

As it seems like having processing power left over is what allows "smart features" to run concurrent to the high settings of 4k @ 30 FPS @ H.265 or HEVC (who knows, maybe some other HEVC algorithm will win... ala Netflix predilection for other codecs.  

Less importantly, I'm curious if there's a standard package size of the necessary modules that comprise a PTZ system... and if the package of the SoC/DSP/CODEC/lens/motor/servos/etc. is physically consistent... with fitment conformity that'd allow customized use of an existing housing for a High Speed PTZ Dome...? I'd really like to experiment with a custom build if this isn't insane. (Like buying a cow, a pig, and a wheat farm to see if I can make a good BLT).

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 26, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Like buying a cow, a pig, and a wheat farm to see if I can make a good BLT).

What’s the cow for?  Beefsteak tomatoes?

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

”GoPro” Style Version on its way (from Easypix):

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TH
Truman HW
Dec 26, 2017

Saw this, so different a market as to make it irrelevant to us, no?

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 26, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Not irrelevant to your clarified question of “Anyone know when [security cameras using] this might get released?”

This industry, for various reasons, tends to be fiscally and technologically conservative.  

As to the former, although a GoPro Hero may seem completely different from a Hanwha Dome, to an engineer at Hanwha, such a working implementation of a new SOC and its associated integrations is essential to a timely adoption.  

To the latter, the chip prices themselves cannot begin to fall until there is significant volume demand.

Therefore, the precocious adoption of the SOC in a commercially viable product should be taken as a positive indicator to its ultimate employment in other more techno-parasitic and frugal markets.

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Related question: How come the action and professional camera markets tout their SOC make (and imager make), while the security market goes out of their way to hide the same?

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JH
John Honovich
Dec 25, 2017
IPVM

I don't know enough about the action and professional camera market to guess.

On the security side, very few buyers ever ask is the key reason. And since there is no buying pressure to disclose that information, there is no seller motivation to share it.

TH
Truman HW
Dec 26, 2017

Possibly, or, consumers are denied so universally the ability to choose on these fronts (we're choosing compatibility, compression, smart features, security, scalability, that we have no choice but to sacrifice on the 10th filter.

The reason sensors are generally expensive is because sony/nikon/canon's "firsts" are exorbitant... but if we could buy units which have aberrations, which are digitally calibrated out (ignore these pixel, etc.) we could have lower noise, higher WDR (which would be easier with SoCs that allow more frames per second to provide true WDR and give us awesome products. 

Facial recognition seems MUCH closer to a reality... depending on the number people in a scene, including features like gate analysis, and the legal rights to a database as well as affordable processing to analyze the complexity the consumer agrees to... without violating personal liberties. But this is 90% germane to my interest. 

1. Can I please have this stuff?

2. It never crossed my MIND how hard it would be to set up Milestone systems.... I did Windows work for 20 years, mac work for 7, and now that I go back to windows, I am a full on retard. Helpless. TALK about complex! Is there someone in LA I can hire? (And is asking to do so against policy? If so, may you strike down upon me with great vengeance and furious anger those whom I would attempt to poison and destroy of your brothers. And you I will know your name is the Lord when you lay your vengeance upon me.

Otherwise, if I could just have someone who freelances and would be willing to meet up with me in LA sometime when I'm closed and lead me to dark ways of Windows (of your choosing) -- and I will follow your instructions, and accept as best I can your ridicule as I pay you. 

U
Undisclosed #1
Dec 26, 2017
IPVMU Certified

 ...depending on the number people in a scene, including features like gate analysis...

Are you obviously meaning ‘gait’; or something obviously related to a people counting analytic, or something even more obvious?

TH
Truman HW
Dec 26, 2017

THANK YOU.

TH
Truman HW
Dec 26, 2017

So you don't know you're getting the same thing from a cheaper source...? 

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