Worst and Best - ISC West 2014

Author: IPVM Team, Published on Apr 07, 2014

Full coverage of ISC West exhibits and 52 new products.

Video Coverage of The Show

For the first time, IPVM has added in-depth video coverage of the show. As an example, below is a clip covering the 'Global Expo' section:

Inside, we have 20 manufacturer booth videos:

  • ACTi
  • Arecont
  • Avigilon
  • Axis
  • Bosch
  • Dahua
  • FLIR
  • Genetec
  • Hikvision
  • Milestone
  • Mobotix
  • OnSSI
  • ONVIF
  • Panasonic
  • Pelco
  • Samsung
  • Sony
  • Vivotek

Plus, we have a 13 minute tour of the back of the show floor to show new products and smaller companies.

Plus, our roundup inside features:

  • Strong Traffic / Weak Products
  • Samsung Taking Aim at Axis
  • Best Gimmick - SDC
  • Biggest Product Potential - FLIR
  • Worst AD - OnSSI
  • Worst Demo - Sony 4K
  • Most Embarrasing New Product Award
  • Failed Apperance - H.265
  • Most Surprising - Dropcam
  • Axis Power of 4?
  • Arecont is 'Stellar'?
  • Genetec's Nothing Ad
  • Avigilon H4 Details
  • IC Realtime Spending
  • Lilin's Camera Girls
  • Build Your Own Camera
  • Dropcam
  • New Product Showcase
  • And much more...

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Comments (37)

That's a pretty big booth for Dropcam.

Correction Dropcash.

A slew of 4K Ultra HD announcements but so far we still only see 1 company, Aventura, marketing H.265

Nor SVT for 264?

flir has gotten my attention... I will be visiting that booth...

I'm curious to see how Speco positions their HD-SDI now. "Zero to HD in less than 59 seconds"?

Conspiracy theorists demand to know "Who is The Team?"

Come out from behind your collective byline and be counted! :)

The guy on the dFence video looks like Jon Cryer from Two and a Half Men.

"4K is the biggest trend amongst camera manufacturer 'releases' but a lot of bogus demos and not legit 4K offerings."

I'm curious, other than being 4000x2000MP what other requirement is there for being a "Legit 4K offering"?
Was there something more to FHD than being 2000x1000MP?

Low frame rate. If you are doing 8MP / 12fps or 8MP / 6fps, how is that really different than the half dozen 10MP cameras already on the market?

Of the two, the bigger issue we see is that so many of them are 'technology demonstrations' and not actual products with any chance of being released in the ner future.

Vaporware. The scourge of technology.

Hi Chris – 4K Ultra HD is a motion picture/ consumer TV intrustry standard. There are two standards bodies that offer 4K requirements, the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) and Society of Motion Picture & Television Engineers (SMPTE). Requirements of the standard that products MUST meet to official say they are 4K include resolution (3840 × 2160 pixels), 16:9 aspect ratio, color fidelity and, as John points out, frame rate. To meet 4K a camera must deliver AT LEAST 24 frames per second or higher, up to 120 fps.

However what the industry has to be careful about is the hijacking of the term ‘4K’ for marketing purposes. Some companies may claim 4K, but really all they are meeting is the pixel requirement. The same happened with the HDTV standard, which is governed by the SMPTE. Companies would use the term “HD” loosely to imply products met the same standard we see on our TVs at home (resolution, progressive scan, color fidelity, aspect ratio and frame rate), when in reality only resolution was met.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I am the Communications Manager at Axis Communications in North America.

Thanks for the reply. I must of misunderstood something somehwere.

I thought the term 4K was generic term for resolution.

Where UHD, FUHD, were the standards.

Thanks for clearing that up.

-Chris

Might as well buy a Good DSLR camera with 4k recording and put that in a box and call it CCTV. A lot more lens options at least.

Hey, you stole that idea from Sony's marketing department! :)

Related: our test of 4K vs 1080p HD using a GoPro camera

Isn't that what Redflex essentially does?

Hey John;

stop by eagle eye networks booth. i think they may be onto something with cloud VMS. Backed by Baraccuda Networks and won an award yesterday. Would be interested in your thoughts. c u on the floor

Here's our Eagle Eye Networks company / product review. Spare me the award stuff :)

i put the award stuff in to get your attention!!

Try the same thing with John. Guess it does not work out. Too strong influence from the bookshelf. :p

our Redlight cameras in Vancouver use the exact camera I use for sport photography. Old but tested Nikon D2H 4.1 MP 8FPS

I noticed a booth with the name "Bestecher" on it. I looked it up and the word (german) translated to english means "briber". Seems a bit odd to me lol.

Evidently, they are a Chinese company selling HD SDI, making it even weirder...

Btw John, I did appreciate the "video stroll" through the exhibits... it's just a good thing I don't get seasick lol.

A photography website with which I am familiar sells camera stabilizers, maybe IPVM would like to invest in better video equipment before the next show?

So you insult us and get a promotional link in at the same time! nicely played!

We used a rolling tripod so I am not sure how much a stabilizer will make a difference, yes/no?

Did not intend to be insulting; will edit or delete if you like.

As far as the rolling tripod goes, that's only effective if you can control the floor. If you can ensure it's perfectly smooth and level, the rolling tripod is a good choice, but if the floor is bumpy or uneven or has stuff you can roll over, you're going to get camera movement. Stabilizers like this one, or the Stedicam, are used for crowd shots- wedding videographers, for example, use them.

ooh, great idea Ari! Now where's the "thumbs up" button!

"IC Realtime is double downing"

I believe the correct term is doubling down.

[IPVM Response: Thanks - corrected.]

Axis and Bosch have demoed pretty good 4K by 2K video at 30fps. And Bosch was using 8Mbps only for the 4K live demo, which had a pretty good quality.

Any presence for ANPR?

John,

Do you have any evidence of Sony 4K demo which was coducted by Camcoder ?

Evidence of what? That it was a camcorder? Or what the video from the camcorder looked like?

SONY 4K camera only has preview, no encoding. the video shown on the screen also looks like not noise filtered, and no H.264 encoding pattern. so it's a HDMI preview from Camcorder or Development board.

John,

My question is that it was a camcoder.

Was it your guess or Do you have any evidence?

I noticed that it had multiple cables coming out of the housing, which looked to be power, HDMI, and another, instead of simply an Ethernet cable, so I asked. Booth staff said it was a "technology demo", so I asked further and they admitted it was a Sony camcorder.

How was Bosch's presentation? What was their main focus at ISC?

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