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Would You Sell Insecure 125khz Credentials?

JC
Jason Crist
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

[IPVM Note: Here's an interesting comment excerpt from a recent thread that raises an interesting question.

Do you willingly sell customers insecure 125 kHz credentials if they aren't aware of, or indifferent to, the security risks?]

**** **** * ****** ***, **'* like ******* ***** ** *** **** customers ** ******* ***** ***** *** readers ** **** ****** *******. **** may ** *** ******* ****** "*** your ********* *********?" ***,it's *** **** ****** ***** ****** ** **** ** ******* * ******** ******* ** ***** ***** ****************. You sound like a fantastic customer that values security, all customers are not created equal.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:**** ********** ** ******** *********** *** Qualified?

****:

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
•Aug 01, 2019

****** *** ******** ********* *** * 125kHz ******, **** **. *** ****** to ******** * ******** ** ****** all ***** **** ******* *** ** tricky. **'* **** *** ** ** say "****'** ********!" *** **'* ****** for **** ** **** ** **** the ***** ** ** ******** ***** it.

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UE
Undisclosed End User #2
•Aug 01, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1

**** *** *** ** ******* ** the ***** ****** **** ***** ****** to ******* *** **** ** *** rid ** *** ***** *************.   * would ***** **** ** *** **** speaking **** *** *** ** **** of **** **** *** *****-******* *** the ***.

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JC
Jason Crist
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** **** ******** ****** *******.....

*** ***** *** ********** ******, *** RFI ** **** *** ******** **** installing **** * ****** *** **** you ***** ******* * ********** *** doing **.  ******** **** ** **** I'll **** **, ***-*** **** **. 

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Brian Rhodes
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Jason Crist

'** **** ** *** ****** *** lawn *****, **** ******, *** ********* ATX ***** ** ***, **'** **** 'em!'

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U
Undisclosed
•Aug 01, 2019
In reply to Jason Crist

** **** ** *** ******** "******* the ****".  * ******* **** **** the ********** ** ******* *** **** mason **** ** ******** ****** ** the **** **** ** ***** ******* booth.

 

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UE
Undisclosed End User #2
•Aug 01, 2019

****** ****....*** ****/******* ******** *********** ** an *** **** */* * ******* of ********* *** *** ******, **** have * ****** **** ****** **** to ***** **.   ***** ** *** think **** **** ***** ** ******* the ****?  *** *** * ***** walk **** **** ** ** *** my ******* *******, *** ***** **.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
•Aug 01, 2019

* ***'* ****** ** ****** *******; but * ***** ***** **** ***** a ************* ** *** ******** ***** you **** *** ** ***** ****** cards **** * might ******** * *** ** *********. 

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U
Undisclosed #4
•Aug 01, 2019

** **** ****'* *****, *'* **** them. ** **** *** ***********, * would ***. ***** *****'* **** "**** security" *******, ** **** **** ******* locks ***. ***** *** ***** ** keep ****** ****** ******. ***** ** nothing ********** ***** **** ****** ********** unless **** *** ****** ** ********* they ****'*. **** **** ***** ** all *** **** ** ** ** open * ****.

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Brian Rhodes
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #4

*'** ******** ** *** ****** ** 125 *** *** ***** ******** ** 'high ********'.

** ****, *** ****. **** *** ***: **** ******* ******* *** *** Credentials ****:

******, *** ******** ** ********* ******* ***** ***** '********':

**** **, ** ****, ****** ********** since *** ***** ** *** *** number ** *****, ** ** **** regardless ** *** ******** **** ****, it *** ** **** *** ****** using * ***** ******.

U
Undisclosed #4
•Aug 02, 2019
In reply to Brian Rhodes

**, * ***** **** ***. *'* not *********** **** **** ***** ******** as ****, *'* **** ******* **** never **** **** ********.

* ******** **** **** *********** ****** the ******** ******** ** ** **** distrustful. 

*'* **** ** ***** *** **** security ***** ***** *** *** ** the ******** ********, **** *** ** the ***** ******** *** *******'* ** trusted ** **** *****.

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U
Undisclosed
•Aug 02, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed #4

(**** ****, ****?)

** ** ******* ********* **** * reasonable *********** **** *** ********-****** ****** team (*.*. *** ***** *****) *** expected ** ********** ********* *** ************ of *** ******* **** *** ********. There's * **** *** **** ** they *** ***, **'* ****** "*****".

JH
John Honovich
•Aug 02, 2019
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed

** **** *** **** *****, ******* copied ****:

*****'* * **** *** **** ** they *** ***, **'* ****** "*****".

* ** *** **** ** *** want ** ** *** * **** about ******* *********** ***** ****** *****? :) 

* ** ***** **** *** ***** "expected ** ********** ********* *** ************ of *** ******* **** *** ********". On *** ***** ****, **** *** ever **** ** ** *** ****? A **** ******* ** *** ************ salespeople *** ******* ********** *** **** a ****** ********** ** *** ***********....

JC
Jason Crist
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*****, **** ******. ** * ****** to, ** ** **** *** **** recommendations *** **** **** ********? * do *** * ***’* ******* * potential ******** **** ******* ******* **** don’t ***** ***** ****. ** **** where ******** ***** *** ****? ** you **** *** **** * ****** lobby ** ****? ** **** ****** front ***** **** **** **** * lobby ******* ********** ********** ***** ******* to *** **** ** *** ********?  I ********* ********* **** *** ** I ** ****** **** ****** ** bake * **** *** ***** *********? Where ** *** **** *** ****?

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JC
Jason Crist
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**% ** ** **% *** ***** 11 *****.  ****'* **** **** ** the *********** **** ** ***** ** replace ** ******** ****** ****** ***** flat *** "**** ******* ****".  ***, I **** ***'* ******* ****, ******* fancy **** **** ** *** ******* them. ** ** *** ** **** I'm *** *** **, **** **** or ****!

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U
Undisclosed #5
•Aug 01, 2019

**** **** **** ** ********* *** like ** *** **** *****:

*****

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SD
Shannon Davis
•Aug 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*** **** *********, ********** *** **** with *** **** ******, **** *** install ********** ******* *** *** ***** and ************ ** ******* *****. ********** the *** **** ******* **** *** be ********. ********** **** **** **** new *********** *** **** **** ** either **** **** **** ***** ** they ***** **** *** ******* ** secure ***** ** **** ***'*. ******* they **** *** ** * ***** where **** **** *** ** **** multiple ******* ******** *** *** *** new ***********.

*** ************* ** *** ****** ****** be ******* ****** ***********. 

********** * ******** ** *** *** all *** *** **** ******* *** replace *** ***** ****** **** ****** on **** ** **** ** *** an **** ****. **** ** *** do **** *** *** $** ****** you ****** ** ****** *** **** them. ** *** ***** **** ** the **** **** ******** *** ***** site *** *** **** ** ******* actually ******* * **** *** ******* in.

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Lv
Louis van Daalen
•Aug 02, 2019

****** ****: *** *** ****** *********** are ******** *** **********. **** ************* use *** *** *********** ** *********** with **********. *.*. *** *** **** the *** **** * ***** **** duplicator, *** ** **** *** **** on *** ****** ******* ****** ** which *** ******** **** *** ********.

UE
Undisclosed End User #2
•Aug 02, 2019
In reply to Louis van Daalen

****** ** **** ***** *** ***** for ****** ********* ***** *** *******......**** some ** *** ****** ********* **** ditched ** *** ***** **.

UE
Undisclosed End User #6
•Aug 02, 2019

****** *********** ****.

 

*'* ********* ** *** ****, *** I **** ** ** * ******** for ** ********** (****, * ****** ship *** **** ** **** *** one ** ** *********).

* ******** ****** *** ************ **** I *** **** *** **********, ***** as *** *** ******* ***** **** out.  ** *** *** ** ******** and ****** *********. ** ********* *** 125khz ******** *** *** ****** ******** risks. ** ******* **** ** *** an **********, *** **** *** ** stay **** ****** *****.

*** **** * **** *** ****, I *** *** **** * **** logistical **** ** ***** ** ** upgrade **********. ** **** ****** *** doors *** *,*** ********* ****** ****** 4 *********. **'* ********* ********** *** me ** *** *** ** *** people ** **** ** *** ***** room ** ******* * ******* *****.  If * ****** ** ******* ** Iclass, *'* **** ** ********* ****** dual ***** *** ***** ****** ******, then **** ** ***** ***** *** hand **** *** ************ ** ***** employee.

 

*** **** ******* ** **** *** readers.  ******** *** *** **** ******* to ***** ***** ******* ***'* **** big ** * **** *** ***** HID *****'* **** ***** ***** **** prox (*** *****, **** ***** *******) that ** *** *** *** ********* and ******* *******, **'* *** **** a **** ****** ** * ********* as ** *** ** *******.

*** ******* ** **** ** ****'* a ************ **** ******** ******** ** begin **** *** ** ** **** super *********, ***** ****** *****. **, the ******* **** ******* ***** ****** to ***** * **** ** *** anywhere ** *** ******** ** ****** unlikely.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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U
Undisclosed
•Aug 02, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed End User #6

*** ** ******** **** **** **** world ******** ***...** **** ********* *** 100 ***** **** ************ ****** **** an ********** ** ********** **** **** you ***** *** **** ******* ** you *** ** ***** *** **** saw ****.   ****'* ** **** ("******* management ** ** **** ** ***** caught ******* *** ******** *************") *******.

SE
Sam Eskew
•Aug 05, 2019

** **** ******** *** *** ******* customers ***** *** ****. **** ****** a ******* ****** ** **** ****. We **** *** **** **** ** anyone ******* ***** ******** ************ **** the **** * *****.  

 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Aug 05, 2019

*** * *****, ** *** **** protected ** **** *** *** ****** is ** ******** **** (** ******** I **** * **** ***-****** *** public ****** *** ******* ** ********* from ******* ********* **** *** *******), i.e. ***** **** ****** ** *** lounge ****, ****** ******** ******* ****, etc.). **** **** **** **** * 720p ************ ****** *** ******** ********** will ** ** ***** ** ***** dishonest  / ***-********* ******** *********. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
•Aug 05, 2019
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #7

125KHz -vs- 13.56MHz access control reader price comparison... ***** ***** ********** ******* *** KHz -**- **.** *** ** **********, maybe *** ******** **** ********** **** down ** *** *********** ****** **** in ***** *** ***** ******** ** not. (*.*.: ** **.** *** ** on **** *****, ** ***** ****-****** 125 *** **** ***** ******* **** for **** *********** ******* ***** * non-critical, ***-****** ****** **** ** ** be **********)...

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