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Why Does China Dominate The CCTV Market ?

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to CCTV and it seems China dominates the security camera business. Is it because of patents or are their cameras just that superior ? Are there any non-China competitors that provde comparable products ? When I shop on popular camera brands I sometimes find they are reselling China brand cameras. It seems Hikvision and Dahua are very popular here in the U.S.

Thanks JG

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******* *** ******* ** leave **** **** *** moved **** ***** ****, work *** ********* **** then *** ********* ******* off **? **** ****.

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"*** *** ****** *** it, ** *** ********* more."

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* **** ** ******** on *** **** **** Axis **** ****'* ****** well ** ***** ***** countries **** ****** ***** manufacturing ** ************ ******** like ***** ** ****** and **** ***** (****** I'm *** **** *** are ****** ** ** since *** ***** *********** )

***** **** *** ******* with **** ***** ****** margins (*** ** ~ 20 % * *******)

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*** *** ******** ** your ******* *** ***** it ** ***** ** being ** *** ***** on *********'* ***** *******, it ****** ******* ********* about **** ******* ********.

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*** **** ********** ** 'stole' **** *** ******* was *********.

**** *** * ****** though :)

*** *** ***** ***************. *** ** *** invented ********* ****** **** the *********, ***********, ***** man ** *** ****? The ********?

****, ****** ***'* *** ad ******* *******. ********, #5 ** *** ***** to ** ********* ** that *** **** ****** view ** ** *********** his *** *****.

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**** ***** ******* ******* to ***** *** **** landing.

*************, ******* ******* ******** it ** ****** ** location...

************ ** *** ******* of ********.

****** ***** *** **** is ****** ** *** weakest ** ********.

*** ******* ******* ** ignorance.

*** ******* ************** ** having ** *********.

***** ***** ***, *** in * ***.

'******' ** * ********** that *** *** ***** to *******/******** (******* *********) any ********* *** ***'* like.

"Not ******* *******" is also a pejorative construct - as if you were the only one who knows US history.

"Not ******* ************** ** ****** ** *********" is a particularly hollow argument as you appear to seek to diminish the accountability of the Hikua machine using (primarily) whataboutism.

* **** ******** ** much ** *** **** guy. *** **** **** as *** ******* ******** of ******'* ********, * rapidly **** ******** ** engaging ** *** **** debate.

* *****'* ********* ******** at *** ** **** whole ************. *** ** know **** ******** ** this ****** ***** * have ********* ** ********** what *****/***** ** *****.

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**** *****, ******** *** statements * ****.

***'* **** **** ** with * ******* ** your ********* **** *'* dismissing *** ***** ******* I *******. ***'* ****** with *** ********** ***** stated.

**** ******* ** ******* and *****.

*** *** - * lose.

*** *** ****** *** smart *** **.

******* **. **** ***** words ****** ** **** smart ** * ********** with ******* ** **** it **.

* **** **** ***** most ***** ***. ************* I ** *** **** to ******* ******** **** say. **** ***** ** programs **** *** ***** competition, **** **** ****** and **** ** ***** them ** * *** (several ***** * *******) they ****** *** ***** or ** ****. * really **** ** ******* would **** **** **** the ****** *** ******** state ** **** ** longer ******** ****. **** collude *** *** ** companies *** *** ***** to ** ********. **** desperately ***** **** ** and *** **** ** pressure **** **** ***** reform ** ***. ** hold **** ******** ***** today.

****** **** ************** *********. Are *** ******** ** the ****** ** *** barrel ** *** *** selling ******* *** *** the ****?

**** *** ****** ***** that ******* *** ******** model ******* ** ****** the ****** **** ********.

******* **** **********, ********** it **** *** ********** abilities.

** *** *** ** the **** ***** **** the **** ** *** local *** ******. ** a ********, ** ******** and ***** **** *** construct, ******* *** *******.

** *** ****** ** that, *** *** **** company *** * **** spy ******** ******* ***** based ** ****** **** work, **********, *******, ********, philosophy.

*** *** *****...*** *** for ****. **** ** human *************...** *** **** to *****, *** *** get ****** *** *** being * **** ***, game ****.

****: **** ** *** rainbows **** *** **.

******* **** ****** *** willing ** *** ******** if **'* ***** ****** and ***** ******* **, and *** * *** of ***** **** ********* (and *******) ****'* ***** far ****** ****.

*** **** ****** ***** has ********* ****** *** technology-manufacturing ******* *** *** last ******* *****.

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