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What Do "Detailed Site/Floor Plans" Look Like?

UE
Undisclosed End User #1
Oct 01, 2017

We are putting together an application for Canada's ACMPR (medical cannabis) program to become a licensed producer. One of the requirements we have are "detailed site and floor plans that shows dimensions and security components for the perimeter of the site and the buildings". Forgive my ignorance and complete newbishness, which according to spell checker is not a word, but what does that look like? Do we just mark up our floor plans with arrows for each of our cameras? And what about for access control or alarms? 

Could anyone be so gracious as to share a sample of what one single building detailed plans look like? I'm not looking for anyone to do my work for me, I'm just looking for a sample I can use to build my own. 

I appreciate your help everyone!

JH
Jay Hobdy
Oct 01, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Most integrators use a variety of tools such as Powerpoint, Visio etc. We use Concept Draw. Some also use specialized design tools (we do on occasion) such as JVSG. A tool like this will allow you to put camera specs in and you will get accurate field of views.

 

The best answer will come from the agency requesting the drawing. They may request some type of formal design plan such as blue prints but I suspect a pdf will be sufficient.

 

Here is a screen shot of one page we did for a local hotel. We have more pages for the interior cameras. We also used the Google Earth image for interior and just mapped the hallways. Not to scale but it conveys what will be done. We have also taken blue prints in pdf format and done the same thing.

 

We used Google Earth, cropped it to size and overlayed the building to show different levels. Then put icons to show what is going where. This site as a mix of existing analog and IP cameras

 

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Michael Silva
Oct 01, 2017
Silva Consultants

Here is a sample of the type of floor plan drawing that a security consultant might produce. The floor plans are drawn to architectural scale (usually 1/8" = 1 foot). Symbols for every security device are placed on the plans. The cameras and doors are numbered with a reference number. These reference numbers are used on camera schedules and door schedules. These schedules provide more details for the equipment at each location (camera type, lens, enclosure type, type of mounting, etc.)

 

A site plan drawing would be similar to a floor plan drawings except would show the equipment mounted outside of the buildings (pole mounted cameras, automatic gates, outdoor motion detectors, etc.). Site plan drawings are drawn at engineering scale (usually 1" = 20' or 1" = 30').

Enlarged plans and elevation drawings are prepared to show things such as equipment racks and control rooms. Detail drawings are provided when needed to show special installation requirements. The enlarged plans and details are referenced on the floor plan or site plan drawings.

 

 

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 02, 2017

This is likely what they are referring to.  Our tools like IPVM, JVSG, and others are just supplemental supporting data.  These tools generate great and necessary data, but they want to see the baby, not hear about how it was made.

UE
Undisclosed End User #1
Oct 01, 2017

Thanks both of you! Very great responses. We are trying to “bootstrap” our way through the ACMPR process since consultants cost thousands and we aren’t funded yet. Once Health Canada approves our plans we will be working with a consultant to get better plans in place.

 

thanks again for the responses, I really appreciate it!

MS
Michael Strong
Oct 03, 2017

Using CAD and REVIT will produce the drawings but these are typically used by A&E's on a project.

 

Assuming that you get good floor or site plan PDF's you can use Bluebeam Revu markup tool.

https://www.bluebeam.com

 

This is a professional PDF markup tool used extensively in contruction.

They have a selection of Security symbols or you can make your own.  With a little effort setting up the symbols, they have a tool that will produce the sheet legend and track quantities of device symbols placed.

30 day free trial and a license is in the range of $150.

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