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Why Don't All Cities Have A Video Alarm Verification Ordinance?

PS
Paul Shah
Jul 20, 2018

With false alarms being such a burden on Law Enforcement, shouldn't all cities just have an ordinance that requires Video Verification?

There are cities that already do this, but why not all? 

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jul 21, 2018

Can't tell if serious or trolling. Probably explains the crickets in this thread.

You mean apart from the patent absurdity of it? The fact that any homeowner or business owner with an alarm would be calling for heads to roll over the ludicrous cost of installing multiple cameras simply to verify an alarm, when a simple policy that two sensors must be tripped before police respond would accomplish the same thing?

PS
Paul Shah
Jul 21, 2018

Its a serious question.

I've been in contact with a couple of cities in California with a population of around 200k that have implemented this.

I would agree that the citizens would not be happy about this, but of these cities have done it, then why not others

I wasn't aware of any patents on it either 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jul 21, 2018

...a couple of cities in California

To no one's surprise, and you just answered your own question.

My use of the term "patent" was as an adjective, not a noun. Starting to get an idea on why no one else is participating in this conversation.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Jul 21, 2018

I’ll chime in.  Where would you like the cameras inside your home to verify alarms?  Imagine a false alarm in the middle of the night?

Businesses only?  Okay, how many cameras needed for a 100,000 square foot warehouse. It would be less expensive to use a private alarm response.  Then comes the arguments;

1. I pay taxes for them to be there anyway

2. If there weren’t alarms you would have to patrol much more area, more often, requiring more police. 

3.  Will you do the same with Fire or Medical calls for service?

and more. 

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Undisclosed Integrator #3
Jul 21, 2018

I’m curious as to what California cities require video verified alarms. Can you identify them so that I can look up their ordinance?

LJ
Lee Jones
Jul 22, 2018
Support Services Group

Another perspective… video is line-of-site, thus too limited when video alone. The key word is VR-Verified Response. The national trend is toward VR because it applies the basic 911 rules and protocol that requires threats to people and property to be “witnessed” before emergency response can be requested (and it lets private security be private security… without dictating how to do it). Language in official VR generally specifies “witnessed threats”, including remote audio and/or video. VR is applied by ordinance, like Fontana CA; or Policy like San Jose CA; or unofficial low priority de facto VR like most communities (others upon request). We forget, most local police response, when requested by a private monitoring firm, is “courtesy” response, not a law enforcement mandate. The PSAP dispatcher determines the priority. Due to near total error/false/unnecessary response, most calls from remote monitoring firms are prioritized as “nuisance" calls. Even a trend toward statewide legislation that prohibits the alarm industry from calling the cops first, including TX, GA, FL.

Source: Lee Jones; Support Services Group; LeeSSG@att.net

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