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Using Fever / Thermal Cameras With People Of Color

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Lynn Harold
Jun 20, 2020

This is not meant to be a political rant but more of a testing opportunity. Is there any chance IPVM can retest a few of the better cameras and tablets solutions using non-white people as test subjects? Was this already done? Since the cameras need to find the face and inner canthus to optimally test, it would be interesting to know how each manufacturer performs in this scenario, especially when you don't have perfect conditions like a solid-colored wall as a background. Thanks.

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John Honovich
Jun 20, 2020
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****, ** **** *** **** *** scientific ******** ** **** *** ********* claims **** **** ** * ****** in **** *********. **** ***?

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jun 20, 2020

***.

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John Honovich
Jun 20, 2020
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******** ** *************? **** ******* ** anecdotes **** *** ***** ** ****?

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Lynn Harold
Jun 20, 2020

**, * **** *** **** ******** to ******** **** *** * *******, but **** ***** ** *** *** have **** * *************. * *** have * ***** *********** ** * urban **** *** **** ** ****** I ** ******** *** **** ******** solution.

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Undisclosed #2
Jun 22, 2020

* *****'* **** ******* *** ******* but * **** **** **** ******** in *** **** ***** *** ****** recognition ********** **** ********* ** **** as *********** ** ****** ** *****, specifically ***** ******, ** **** ** on ***** ******. ** * ******* camera ******** ****** ** ****** *********** to ******** *** *********** *******, **** I ***** *** **** ******* * lot ** ***********. ****'* * ***** article **** **** ** ******* ** race, ***, *** *** ** **** recognition ********.

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John Honovich
Jun 22, 2020
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** * ******* ****** ******** ****** on ****** *********** ** ******** *** measurement *******

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Undisclosed #2
Jun 22, 2020

**'* ********* ** **** ******* ** cite ***** **** * *********** ******* recognition ** *********. ****** *** **** on * "**** ********* *** **** color" ****** *** *** ******** ***** face************* *'* *** **** ** ********** for************ ********* ** ***** ********* ** shape ** ******** **** ****, **** and *****.

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**** ******** *** *********** ** **** can ***** ** ***** ******** ********* products

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Lynn Harold
Jun 22, 2020

**** ** * *********** - ** the *** ***** **** ****** **** (1st ****), *****'* * ********* ** an ******* ***** ****** *** ****** bias ** ******'* ***********, ***** ** states "****** ** ***** *** **** ********* the ******** ** * **** ** the ********** ** ** ********** ** an ***** ** *****, * **** must ***** ** ********. ******* **** basic **** *** ****** ******* *** further. ****** ********* ******* **** ********** been ***** ** **** ** *** faces ** ****-******* ***********." (*** ****). ** ** *** thermal ********* ******* *** ***** "****** detection" ** **** *** ****, *** subsequently **** *** ***** *******, ***'* it ****** **** **** *** *** perform ** "***** ****" ** **** as ********?

*** **** ******* ******* ******* ** facial *********** **** ********* *********

********: ****** *** ****** **** ** Amazon *********** — ********** ** ****** for ********* *****.

JH
John Honovich
Jun 23, 2020
IPVM

** ** *** ******* ********* ******* are ***** "****** *********" ** **** the ****, *** ************ **** *** inner *******, ***'* ** ****** **** they *** *** ******* ** "***** cams" ** **** ** ********?

*************, ***** ******* *** ********* *** looking *** *** ***** *******, **** the ******* **** ** *** **** or *** ******* **** ** *** forehead / *** ** ****. * do *****, ** **** **** ********* automatically ****** ** **** *** ***** canthus, **** ***** ** ** *****.

*******, *********, *** ****** ** *** even ******* ** **** *** ***** canthus, ********** ** **** ** *********.

**** ****, ** *** ***** ** get *** *** **** ********* ******** so ** ***** ** ***** ******** some ****** **** ******** ** ** see ** ** *** *** ******.

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Tyler Barnett
Jun 23, 2020

* ***** ** **** ** ****** in **** *** *** **** ** science. *** **** ******** **** ***'** referring ** *** **** ** ***** of *** ****** ********* ** *** camera *** ***** ***** **** ** WDR *** ********. **** *** ***** comes ** *** **** ** *** visually *** ********* ** *** ******** conditions **** *** ** ****** *********** on ********* ******. **** *********** ******** has ***** *** ** ***** **** to *** ** ***** *** ***** eye ** **** ** *** **** you **** *** * ******* ****** because ** ********** *** **** *** the **** ****** ** ******* **** versus ***** ****. ***** **** *** a ***** ** **-** ******* * have **** ****** ******* *** **** sitting ** **.

**** ****** ** *********** *** ** talking? *** **** **** ** **** up *** ** ********* ********** ** each ** ***** ****** ** ********* the ******.

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