Undisclosed Integrators, Have You Ever Written An RFP That You Responded To?

Trying to gauge how often this happens...

If so, did you win it?

Does anyone ever refuse?

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Usually ******* **'* *** ****** *** ***-****. He's might be a mid-level manager who has been asked to issue an RFP for a system. He talks to a couple of integrators, starts to get chummy with one of them, and voila! The integrator is helping to write the RFP! On the sly of course, because the companies policy is to bid out.

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End ***** often know who the local integrators are and who they want (and importantly don't want). ******* ***** *********** ** ****** *********** ***** ******* ** *** whole ************ (********, **, ***********, *******, ***.).

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