IPVMU Certified | 02/03/14 08:48pm
That was an interesting link. Thanks for sharing.
Sentiment aside, I think the move to LEDs are a net good. In the US, residential wattage incandescent bulbs were mostly obsoleted by law anyway at the start of 2014.
One potential drawback I see is replacement cost. When a drunk plows into a lightpole and knocks it over, or thugs decide to shoot out or put out lamps at random, won't it cost much more to replace them? The link puts the cost of an LED unit at ~$250 but a high-pressure sodium unit is like $20.
Here's an example from their deck:
Interesting they claim that the measured light levels are far lower with the LEDs but it looks a lot more even and brighter.
Ari, thanks for sharing. I am wondering what the impact will be.
If it's more even lighting that will certainly help as light variations create problems.
On the other hand, it seems that there will be lower overall light levels, yes/no? Also less spillage, it seems?
Ari, I agree that some IR cameras illuminate the center of the image...But you forgot to mention about stand-alone IR and White Light illuminators are matched to the full Field of View of the camera. There is no center hot spot.
Raytec makes illuminators with the White Light LEDs that provide true colour rendition on the monitor view.
Los Angeles is not the first city to start doing this. Baltimore was also doing that while I was living there about a year and a half ago. Here is an article in the Baltimore sun about it.
Marty, within North America, we are mainly involved with partners who specify and install lighting within security projects. The majority of the growth is for illuminating for video. As IP, HD and MP cameras grow in resolution and require more light at night, we recommend adding IR for the best even-illuminated image and benefiting with lower bit rate, bandwidth requirements and lower storage. White Light Illuminators are recommended for identifying colour at night and for deterring criminal activity. Our area lighting called the URBAN Series also benefit video systems with the "blue" White Light SMT LEDs.
There are a vast number of lighting manufacturers that provide area white light LED fixtures for aestetics, public safety and liability outside of the security plan. However, Raytec is always welcome to provide full engineering support with 2D and 3D Designs for area lighting. More details at
However, we are growing outside of the security market with our Explosion protected Zone 1 and Zone 2 White Light and active-IR illuminators in the hazardous markets of gas, oil and mining. The new SPARTAN Illuminators will soon be launched for use within North America.
I'm not sure this would have any negative impact. Wouldn't you just account for the color cast through white-balance? Most cameras already have modes for Daylight, Tungsten, Flourescent. Add a white-balance mode for "LED".
We tested outdoor LED lighting in our Camera Color Fidelity Shootout. It didn't have rendition issues any different than any bright lighting.
Also, here in Allentown, the city has been replacing street lights on the main street with LED fixtures. There are cameras all up and down that section, and no issues with the lighting. Living here, I have to tell you I really like it. It's much more bright and clear than the sodium lamps we're used to.
Idibri Consulting | IPVMU Certified | 02/04/14 06:34pm
In our video production work, we've sometimes experienced problems with some LED stage lighting fixtures causing a noticable flicker on video. This is due to the Pulse Width Modulation that is used to control the light output of the fixture. The only way to "dim" an LED fixture is to quickly cycle it on/off, varying the length of the "on" cycle. It's fast enough that the human eye cannot pick it up but a camera can. I wonder if these LED fixtures would cause similar problems. Maybe not though. Since there would be no need to dim these street lights, they might not use PWM.