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"The Old DVR Plug And Play Guys Just Never Made The Transition To IP"

JC
Jason Crist
•Jul 25, 2019
IPVMU Certified

I went to a manufacturer VMS training after a major change in their system.  I was amazed how non-technical 18 of 20 of the companies in the room.  The most prevalent complaint was "my customers don't know how to do this now".  Well, the customer interface side hadn't changed...  The entire seminar turned into a bitch fest with the overwhelming majority of the "integrators" not being familiar enough with the previous version of the system to even understand what changed!  In my experience the old DVR plug and play guys just never made the transition to IP.  This market has undergone a tremendous change, guys who programmed burg with the Ademco programming guide through a keypad and plugged BNC's into a DVR and or analog matrix haven't made the transition in large part.  They didn't get dumb, the technology just completely changed.

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JH
John Honovich
•Jul 25, 2019
IPVM

* **** **** *** *** ***** because * ***** **'* ** ********* point ** *******. * ***'* **** what ********** ** *********** *** '*** DVR' **** *** *** *** **** the ********** *** * ***** **'* a ******.

***** ***, **** * *** ** integrator, * *** ******** ******** ** teach ****** ***** *** ** ********* an ** ******* *** * *** a *** ** ********. **** **** angry ****** **** * ******'* ***** them ** ***** ****, ***** *** baffling ** **...

**** *******, * ***** ***** ** a ****, ***** ********** **** ********** shifts **** ****** '******' ** *** tech ********** ** *** ***** *** next.

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Daniel S-T
•Jul 25, 2019
In reply to John Honovich

*** ***** ***** * ******* ** had **** **** ****. **** ********* just ***** **** ***** ********* *******. They ****'* **** **** **** ** training, *** ********* ******** ***** ** "I'm ** ***** ****, *** * camera ***!" **** ** **** ****'* even **** ***** ****** *******, *** alone **.

****** **** ** **** ** ***** new ******, *** *** ***** * get (*** **** **** *** ******) the **** * ******* **** ****** don't **** ** **** ** ***** new ******. ********** *** ****. ****** they *** ******** ****** ** (*** loss).

SD
Shannon Davis
•Jul 25, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Daniel S-T

** *** **** **** ** **** I **** * *** ** ** camera *** ****** ******* **** *** definitively *** **** *** *** "********* Guys". ********* ** ********* **** *** many *********** ***** ******** **** ****. I ****** **** **** ****** ******* is ****** ********* ** ********. 

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JC
Jason Crist
•Jul 25, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Shannon Davis

******’* ***** **** **** ****. ** were ***** ********* ***-*** ****** *** video ************ *** **’** ****** ** intrusion. **** ** ***** ** ** our ********** **** ***** **’* ** silly ** ****** ** ****. 

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Daniel S-T
•Jul 26, 2019
In reply to Jason Crist

****'* *********** ** **. * ** at *** ***** ***** ** ******* employer **** ******* **** ********** *** we **** **** *** *** ********* systems *** *** ********* *** ** thought *** ********* "***, * ***'* want ** ** ********* *****, **'* too ******."

JC
Jason Crist
•Jul 25, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** ******* ***** ******* *'** ********** seen *** **** ******** ** **** the *****.  ***** *** **** ******* used ** ** * "* ***-****" market (**** * **** *** ****) until *** ********** *********** *** ** and ******* ***** *******.  * *** one ** **** ** ** ********** designer/estimator *** * *** ***** **** that ***** **** ********** *******. *** video ** ****** ******* *** ******* integration (**) ***** **** *****/****** ***** leading *** ******; *** ***** *** some ******** ** ***** **** ********** checks *** *** **** *** ** seems **** *** ****** ** **'* find **** ****** ****, ** ***** and *** *** ***** *** ********* they **** ** **** **** ** the ***-****.  ***** ** ***** *** very **** ** ****** ****** ***** margins ** ******** *****.  ****'* *** being ****** ******* **'* ** ***** marketed ******** ** *** *** ****'* IT ******.  *** *** ***?? *** IT ****** *** ****** ** ******* the ******* *** ** **** ***** are ***** ********** ******! 

**'* * ***** *******, ** *** to ***** ** **** ****** ********* with ********** *******, *****-*****, *** ***** factors **** ********** ******* *** ****** a ****** *** *** ********. *** more"plug *** ****" ****** *** *** less *** **** ********* **** **. 

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
•Jul 25, 2019

***** ******, * *** ******* ** one ** *** ***** ********* *** asked *** **** ** ******* ***** Exacq.  ** ******'* ***** **, ** loves ****** ******* *** **** *** play.  

*** **** ******* * *** *** our ****, ** **** **** ***'* have **** ** ***** ** *** train ** *** ********** *** *** time.  ** **** * ******** *** job *******.  ******** ** *** ****, including *** ** *** ** ** date **** *** ****** *** ********.  The ***** *** *** *** **** in *** *** ***** *******, ******* up, ********* ****, ***.  

**** **** ******** ** **** ******** like **** *** **** **** *** Bosch, ** *** * **** * day ********.  ******* **** **** **** to *** *******....

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JC
Jason Crist
•Jul 25, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #1

"** *** ***** ******** ** *********, try *********"

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•Jul 26, 2019

** *** ***** ****, ** **** recently ***** ** * ***** *********** branch ** **** * "****** ** IP *** ******** *******" *****.  *** distributor *********** ** ** ** *********.  The ****** ********** *** ** ******.  It ********* ** ** ****, ** stated *****, ***** *** ***** *** have *** **** *** ********** **** analog ** **,  *** **** **** want **, *** **** ****** *** time. 

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JC
Jason Crist
•Jul 26, 2019
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

*** *********** ********** * *****. ******** don’t ********** ********. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
•Jul 27, 2019
In reply to Jason Crist

**** ***'*, ** ** *** **********. If ***** ****'* *******, **** ****'* making *****. *** **** **** **** to ***** *** ***** ***** ********* that ****** **** ***** *****, **** that's **** *** ****'* *****.

** **** ******** *** *** ****** on ***** *** **** ***** ********** at ***** ** *****. *** *** actually **** ** ****** *** **, and *** ***** *** **, **** taught. *** ***** *** *** **** than **, *** * ***** **** me ***. *** ** *** ***** the **** **** ** * *** IP ****** ******? *** *** *** knew *** *****. *** ** *** other ***** *** **** ** ****** he ******'* **** ********* ** **** end.

** ******* *** **** ********, ** Lenel, ******* ** ****** ** * big ****** *** ******** ** ** be *********. *** ** *** *** bare *******. ***** *. * ****, as * ******* *** *******, "*** know ***** * ******** ****** * lot **** ***** **** * **** actually ** ***** **** **** ********". Didn't ******, ****** ** ***. 

**** ** ********** ** ********* ***** like ** *** **** ********, ** prepared ** *** ** *** ********, rarely **** ******** *** *** **** or ***** ***** ** ****** ***** own *****.

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