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The "Nuclear" Option (Ejecting China From The US Electronics Market Entirely)

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Robert Shih
Jul 24, 2021
Independent

While I think we won't get to that point, I feel like lately that we may be veering in a direction too extreme even for my anti-CCP views. I know we need China's electronics to be less prominent in our networks and our market, but I don't think that should be accomplished with outright bans. This runs a bit counter to our capitalistic principals. We should be using a more positive reinforcement type approach where we incentivize the growth of our own electronics manufacturing and encourage the purchase and sales of indigenous equipment (or at least those from our strategic allies).

The FCC Hikua ban might be explained by their cooperation with the CCP to oppress the Uyghurs, but I think we forget that companies and individuals do not have the rights we do to protest on moral grounds or any grounds against the actions of the CCP lest they be disappeared like we thought Jack Ma might have been recently. Granted Hikvision is definitely founded by the CCP for the most part, but Dahua being the second largest manufacturer and wanting not to lose market share can't really deny their own government if they want to remain as a major player in their own country of origin.

*** ****, * ***'* **** ** I'm ***% ** ***** **** *** measures ** *** ** ****** ** deal **** *****, ** ** ***** Dahua. * **** ********* ** * lost ***** *** ** *** ******* and ******** **** ** *** ***.

**********, *'* **** ** **** **** Dahua ********** **** ***** ** **** their **** ******** ***** *** ******** project **** *** ******* **** ****** are *** ** ******** **** *** CCP. ** ******, ********** ***** ******** would ** ********* ** *** **** honesty, *** ***** **** ** *** see ** **** ******* *** ******** in *** ***** *****. **'* ***** possible **** ***'*, *** *'* **** to **** *** **** ** *** story **** **** ******** ***'* **** within ***** *** ******* *** ***** the ******** **** ** *** *******.

********* ** *** ***** ** *** title ******: **** *** ***** ***** not ** * ****, *** **'* at ***** ** ****.

* ****** *** **** ****** **** are ** ***** **** ******* *** Chinese *********** ******** ** ***** **** positive ******** ** ******* *.*. ***** manufacturing ** *********** ** ***-******* **** by ********* *** ******* *****.

JH
John Honovich
Jul 24, 2021
IPVM

***** ***** *** ****** ******* ************ andwanting *** ** **** ****** ***** ***'* ****** **** ***** *** ********** if they want to remain as a major player in their own country of origin. [emphasis added]

** **** ********** ** **** ***** is ******* ** ****** ** ***** rights ****** ** **** ***** *** we ****** **** *** *** ****? Help ** *** ****.

*** ****** ******* ** **** *** are ********** ** ********** ** **** / *********** ***** ** ************ *** consensus ** **** *** *** *** PRC, *.*., *** *** **** *** want ** ** ********* ** ** technology ******.

RS
Robert Shih
Jul 24, 2021
Independent

** **** ********** ** **** ***** is ******* ** ****** ** ***** rights ****** ** **** ***** *** we ****** **** *** *** ****? Help ** *** ****.

** ***** ***** ***** ** ********** note ***** ******* *** *** **** as * *******, *** *********** **** their ********* ** **** ***** ****** as *** **** ***** ************* ************ have ***** ************ *** **** ********** on *** ******* **** *** ******** in **** ****. ***** ********** ********* have ***** ***** ******* ** ***** nor ***** ** **** *** ********* views ******** *** **** ** ******** repercussions. ** *** ********** **** ** them **** *** ******* **** *** not **** *** *** ****** ** say **. ****, ** **** ***** (Confucian ******* ****) ** *** *** the ****** ******* ******* ** ***** and *** ***'* **** ****** ** bid, *** ***** ** ********* *** ruling ***** ** ****** ************.

** **** ** * ************ ******* and ** *** **** ****** ** companies *** ****'* ***** ********** **** have ******** ** * *******'* **** than ***** *******. ****, *****, & VW *** ********* ******** ** **** and ***** ******** *** ***** ***** sold ** *** ** ****** *****.

*** ***** **, ** *** ******* based ** * ***** *** ***** mindset *** *** ***** ****** ****** in ******** *** *** *******'* *************, but ** *****'* ****** ***** ****** speak ****** ***** *** ********* **** within *** ***** ** ***** *** its **********. * ********** **** ** know ** *** ******* ** *** condemning *** ***** ****** *** *********** in ****** **** *** ********** *** of **** ** *** ** ******* loyalty. *****'* * ********** ******* *** two *** *** ******** * ******* (not ****, **** * ******* ** follow ** ***** *********) ** ********** (i.e. ********** ******** *** ** ********* chips, ****** ************* *** ** ***** for ************* *******, ****** **** ** operations, ***. [****** * **** ***** be *********, ** *** **********, *** I ***** ***** **** ** ** on *** *****]).

*** ****** ******* ** **** *** are ********** ** ********** ** **** / *********** ***** ** ************ *** consensus ** **** *** *** *** PRC, *.*., *** *** **** *** want ** ** ********* ** ** technology ******.

* *****, ****** *** ***** *********. I'm *** *** *********** ** **** electronics. *'* **** *** * *** of ******* ***** ******** *** ***** negative *************. **'* **** *** *** the *** ****** **** ** ** its ******.

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RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

******** *** *************: * ** ***** clearly ******* ***-********** ********* (*** ****** our ********** *********** ** ********** *** provide **** * ******** *** ************ our ********) ************* ** *** ******.

*'* **** ****** *** ** *********** for ********** ** ** *** ** that ***** *** ***** ********* ** be ***. ** **** *****.

** * **** ****, * ** entirely *********** ** *** ****** ** bad ********* ** **** *** ********* companies ********* ** *** *****.

****,

#**********, #************

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 27, 2021

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RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

***. * **** ****** ** ******* seriously ******* ***. * *** ******* feeling ****.

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Undisclosed #1
Oct 27, 2021
IPVMU Certified

** **** ********** ** **** ***** is ******* ** ****** ** ***** rights ****** ** **** ***** *** we ****** **** *** *** ****?

*** ** *** **** **** *****’* reason *** ******** ** “** **** money”?

** ******* ** “*** ** *****”, “not ** ********” *** “*** ** disappeared”.

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JH
John Honovich
Oct 27, 2021
IPVM

** ******* ** “*** ** *****”, “not ** ********” *** “*** ** disappeared”.

******* ***** **** ******** ** ******** of ******* ** ********* **** *** government. **'* ***** ****** ******* ************ systems ****** *** *****.

U
Undisclosed #1
Oct 27, 2021
IPVMU Certified

** *** ***** **** ***** ******* a ******* **** *** *** ** do ** ******* ******* “** ** fired”, “** ** ********” *** “** be ***********”?

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JH
John Honovich
Oct 27, 2021
IPVM

*********, ***** *** ***** *** ********* bidding *** ***** ********. *** ***** "Sure **** *** ************* **** ***** this *** *********, **** ***** **** been ******" ** *** * **** convincing ********.

RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

*** ******* ******** ********** (**** *******) tells * ********* *****.

** * ********* ******, ** ***** even **** **** **** ** ********* if ***** ****'* **** **** * serious *****.

RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

* ***** * *** **** ** deviate **** *** **** ****. **** is ***** * ***** ***** *** be **** ***** ** **** **#* says. *** ******* ** *** ** could ******** ******* **** * **** space ** ******* ********** ******** ******* repercussions. *****, *** *** *** ** completely ***** ******, *** ***** ****** at ***** ** **** *********** ****** the ******* ** **** *** ********** that ***** **** ********* ******** **** the *** *** **** ***'* *** so.

JH
John Honovich
Oct 27, 2021
IPVM

* ** *** ****** **** *** reasonably ***** *** ****** *** ***. If **. ** ******* ** *** "Xi's * ********, **'* *** **** massacres, *** * *** ****** **** it," **'* ***** ** *********, *********** ****** ***, ***.

** ***** ** **** **** *** decline ** *** **** ******* ******* projects ** **** ** *** **** to ***********. **** ***** ** **** that *****. **, ***, ** **** speak *** ***, ****'* *** *** for ****, *** **** ******* **** their ***** *** **** *** *** giving ** ****, **** ****** *** Party ***** **** **.

RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

***'** ***** ******* *** ***** ******. Money ** ******. ******** * **** is ** ******. *** ********** ** Confucianism *** ****** ***** *** **** in ******* ************* ********.

** ******* **** * *** ** your ****** (***** *** ********* *** damaging ** **** *****) *** ****, "It'd ** *********** ** ******** ******** to ****. **, *** *** ***'* you **** **** ** **** **** money ***." ***** **** *********** ** critical ** ****?

JH
John Honovich
Oct 27, 2021
IPVM

** **** ****** *** * *** to **** ****, **** ***** *** need ** **** ** *** *** prices **** *** ****** *****, *********, et **.

***** *** ******** ** ******** ** PRC ******** ********* ****** *** *** as **** *** ****** ** ** migrant *******, ***. *** *** ********** with *** ************ **. ** *** Mr. **, * ** *** *** it.

RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

****** **** **** *** **** ** grow ***** ********** *** **** **** a ****** ** ********** ** *** outside *****. ********, **** ***** ***** and ************ ******** *** ***** ******. To ****, *** ***** ** ****** unlimited *** **** ***** **** * ****s ***** **** *** ****** *****.

*** ***** ** ********* ********** ** reclaim ***** **** ************ *** **** matter ** ************* ***** *** ******** the ***** *** ****** ********** ** someone ***** **** **********. ***'** * useful **** ** *** *** ***** you're ***.

JH
John Honovich
Oct 27, 2021
IPVM

****, *** **** ****** ** **** those **********. **** ****** ** ** rich *** ******** *** **** **** the **** **** ********共产党.

RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

**** *** ***** ** *** *** know *** **** *** **** ****** way ** **** ***** *** **** born, ** **** ****** *** **** strange?

********, **'* *** ********** **** ** evil. *** *** ******.

JH
John Honovich
Oct 27, 2021
IPVM

*******? **.

******? ****, **. ****** ** *** citizens **** ***** ** ******* ****. Or ***** ***** *** ********* *** now躺平 ** ***** *** **** *** them...

RS
Robert Shih
Oct 27, 2021
Independent

********, ******* ***** ** ***** ***** we ***'* **** *** *******. ** can't *** **** ** ***** *** this ******* ******* ***** *********. *'* at ***** **** ** ******* ***** point ** **** ** ** *** truly ********* **** **** *** ******** freely. *'* *** ****** **** **** were ********** ********* *** ** ****, but * ***'* ***** **'* **** to *** **** **** *** ********** operating **** * ****** ****** ******. We ***'* ***** ** ***** *** white.

***** ** * ******** **** **** we **** ** ***** **** **. That's *** ** **** ** **** their **** ** *** *****. *** real *** ******* ******* *** **** of *************.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 28, 2021

******, *** *** ***** ***** ******?

**** *******.

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RS
Robert Shih
Nov 10, 2021
Independent

* ***** ****** ****** **** ***** on **** *****, *** * ********** it. *****, *'* ********** #**********, #************, #FreeTibet.

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