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The Fact Hanwha/Avigilon/Axis Have Such Significant Market Share Is Not Because They Are The Best

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Jul 16, 2023

My vocabulary is too poverty stricken to truly elucidate how awful and short sighted this is.

Remember, even your proven solutions were once fledgling ideas that someone had to take a shot on.

*** **** ******/********/**** **** **** *********** market ***** ***’* ******* ****’** *** best, **’* ******* ****** **** *** are ***** ****** ** * ***** where ***** ********* *** ***** *** best **** ***** ***** *** ******* come *** ** *** *****.

******: **** ******* *** ***** **** an ******** **********:*** ***** *** **** **** ****** A ***** **** **** ****** ** Manufactures ******* ***** **** *** *** Trust ** ****

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JH
John Honovich
Jul 16, 2023
IPVM

*** **** ** **** ************ *** for ****? **** ** *** *** "video ************" ** ***** **** *** question ** **** **** ** **** and ***********?

*** ** *** ******** **** ******* to ** "*** ****"? ** **, in **** ****?

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Jul 16, 2023

*’* **** ** **** **** ****. Who ** ***** ****? * ***** Bosch ****** *** **** *********** *** a *** ** *** ******** *********, but *** **** *** ***** ** taking *** ****? ****** ***’* *** Verkada…”bro”

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #3
Jul 16, 2023

** ***** ** **** *** *** Verkada ******** ** *** ***** ****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Jul 16, 2023

*** “****”.

******* ********** **** ** *** **** at *********. **** ***** **** ** the “****” ** ***** “*****”.

**** ** * ***** ******* *** well *****, *** ** ** ***** they ********* ****’* *** **** ** delivery.

***** **** **** ****** ****** ****, but ** *** *** *** **********? Well, **** **** * ***** ******* over ** ******** ******* ** * decent *****-******.

***** *** ****** ***** *******’* ******** that * ** ****. ******* **’* like ***** **** ** * ****** table ******* ** *****. *****, *’* not **** ***** ** *** **. (unless *’* * ********** ** ***** and ******)

****, **** ** ** *** *** of *** ********, **** ****** ** magazine ******.

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SD
Shannon Davis
Jul 17, 2023
IPVMU Certified

***** *******. **** **** **** ** the ********* ******** ******** *** *****, take ****** **** *** ** **** and *** **** *** **** ******* ever ****? *** *** *******. **** all ** ********* **** *** ********** not ** ****. ** *** ********* these **** ** *** *************** ** products ****** * **** ** *** of *******.

**** *** **** ****** *** ***** this. * ********** **** **** ***** latest ******* **** **** **** **** function *** *********. ** **** ** explain ** *** ******** **** *** camera **** ****** *** *** *** project * *** ****** *** ** already ************ **** **** ** ***.

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Brian Karas
Jul 17, 2023
Pelican Zero

*** **** ******/********/**** **** **** *********** market ***** ***’* ******* ****’** *** best, **’* ******* ****** **** *** are ***** ****** ** * ***** where ***** ********* *** ***** *** best **** ***** ***** *** ******* come *** ** *** *****.

* ***** **** *** ** *******, but *** **** **** **********.

*** ********* **** ***** ** ********* ranked ** "****", ** ** ***** "upper ****" *** ********* ***** **** the ******* ***** ***** ********.

* ***** ******** *** ******** ****** as *** ***** "*** **** ** present ** ***". ***** ** ** possible ** ***** ** **** ******* go ** ****** **** **** * or * *** ****-********* ***** ******, you **** ********** **** * **** large ***** **** ** ***** ********* the ******.

******* *** ***** * ******** ********* approach, ******** ********* ** ****** ***** and ***** * *** ** *** work ** **** ***-*****, *** ****** way, **'* * **** ***** ***** org.

** ** **** ********** ** **** into * ********** ************ ******* * heavy ********** ** ***** *******, *** separately *** ************, * ***** ********** in *********. ********* ***'* ** ***** here, *** *** ***'* ***** ****** velocity ** * ************ **** * purely ************ ********.

***** (** ** *******) ***** **** an ******** ******/********/**** ******, *** ** they ***'* **** ******* *** *** show ** *** ** *** ***** in ***** **** *****, *** **** people *** ** ******, *** ****-******* demo *****, *** **** ****** ***** from *** **********, *** ******* *****, and ******** ********** *** ***** *********** to *** ******* *******, ***., **** they're *** ***** ** *** **** (if ***) ** ***** ****. *** replicate **** ** ***+ ***** ***** metro ***** *** *******.

** ******, ** ***** **** **** just ******** ****** ********. *** **** the ***** ********, *** * **** product (**** ** *****, *** ****-**** availability), *** * **** *****/******** *********. But ** **** ***** ** ******/********/**** all *** ***** ***** ***** ***** by **% ****'* ** ******** ** someone **** ** *** "**** ********" in ***** * ****.

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U
Undisclosed #5
Jul 17, 2023

* ******* ***'** ********** ******* ***** Vicon. **** **** ******** ** * competitor *** ********** *** ******* ** leverage ********'* ***** & ********* ***** made * *** ********** ** ** winning *** ***. ***** ********* *** not ***** *** **** ****** ** Avigilon's ********** ********, *** **** ******** less ** *** ******** **** *** quality *** ******** ** *** ******* behind *** ********.

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MS
Mark Schweitzer
Jul 17, 2023

** *** ****** *********, * **** to **** **** *** **** ** "the ****", ******* **** ********* ***'* want *** ****, **** **** ****'* been ****** ** **** *** *****'* break *** ****.

***** *** ***** ********* ******** ** a ***** ****** ****** * ****** camera, **** ** *** ******** ******** you *** ** ****** *** **** video, ** *** ******* ** **** factors *** *** *** ******* **. For **** ********* ***** ****** *** far **** ********* **** *** "****" camera *** * ******* ****** ** situations.

*******, *'* ********** ******* ** *** cameras/technology. ******* ** **** ********* ******* made ** * ** **** ***** manufacturer, * *****'* **** ******** **** offers * ***** ******* **** *** is ******** "******" **** *** ******* lines *** *********. ******** *** **** interesting *** *** ****** ** ***** companies **** ******* **** *** **** mentioned ** *** ***** ** *** video **** ****** ********* ********** ******* does *** ******* *** **** **.

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RB
Russell Barber
Jul 17, 2023
IPVMU Certified

**** ** *** *** ***** * lot ** ** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
Jul 18, 2023

* ***** ********** ** ** *** the ********* ********* ****. **** **** I *** ** ************ * **** to **** ******* ******* ** ** integrator *** *** **** ** ***** school **** ******* ** *** *** 2010s. ********** ***** ******* ******* ******* and ** ****** **** *** ********* reputation *** ********** **** **** ** life ******* ** * *******. ******** this **** ****/******/********/*****, **** ******* ******* and ** **** ***** * ***** say **** * ****** ******** ***** record *** ***** ******** **** ****/***** features. ***** *'* **** **** ** have **** *** ******* *** ****** issues (** ****!) **** **** ***** the **** ** **** *** * significant ****** ** **** **** ********* speaking *** *** **** ********* ******** behind *** *******.

*** ***** ** ********** **** * risk ** * ***** ******* **** anything **** *****'* **** ****** ***********? Oh, *** **** ********** **** *** in ******* * ********* *****? **** had ** *** *** ******* *** of **** ** ***** *** **** and *'* ****** ******* *** *** out ** ******** (*** *********** *** to **** *** ** *** * contributing ****** ** ** ****'* **** one ******).

** ** *** **** **** ** this ******:

"** *** **** *** ***** *** buying *** ********** *****"

* ***** ***** **** *** **** could ** **** *** ***** * camera ************* ** ****** **** *** same ******.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:"******* ******* ******* ****** **** *** Integrator's ********** *** ********** **** **** On **** ******* ** * *******"

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Jul 18, 2023

**% ** *** ****** *** **** adapters *** *****. **** **** *** what *** *********** ** *****.

*** ******** ******** **** ****** ***** industries ******* ** * ******* ** adopt *** **********. ******** ***** ******* because ** ****** ** ** **** and *** ****** *** *** *** largest *************. *** ****? ******. ***? Because **** ******** ** **** ** people ******** ** ******.

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JH
John Honovich
Jul 18, 2023
IPVM

**% ** *** ****** *** **** adapters ********

****'* **** ** ******.

***** *** *** *** ****** ** question *****, *'** ****** ** ****:

*** **** ** **** ************ *** for ****? **** ** *** *** "video ************" ** ***** **** *** question ** **** **** ** **** and ***********?

*** ** *** ******** **** ******* to ** "*** ****"? ** **, in **** ****?

****** *******. ******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Jul 18, 2023

***** (****): * ****** *** ** too ****** ********** ** ***.

"*** ***** ******* *** ****** *****, and *** ******* ** ** ***** in."

**** ******* ** *** ******* ******** Hanwha **** ******** ********* ** ****-**** when ** *** *** ******* ***** in *** ********?

**** ****** ***** **** *** *** next *** ***** **, ****'* **** they'll ***** ****. **** *** *** led ** ***** ********** ***********, **** are *** ** *** ******. ***** is ****.

****'* *** * ***** ** * technology ******** *****. ** *** ******** industry * ***** *** ***** **% are *** **** ********--**** *** *** conservatives, *** ****-**** *****, *** *************.

********, **** ** ***** **** ****** dealers **** ******* ** **** ** was **** *******. **** ** **** were ******* ** **** *** ***** get **** *********.

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JH
John Honovich
Jul 18, 2023
IPVM

*** *** ****** ** ********:*** ** *** ******** **** ******* to ** "*** ****"? ** **, in **** ****?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
Jul 20, 2023

* **** ** **** **** **** silly **** ***** ** ******** ** convey. *** *** "* ***** ** a ********** ******** *****" **** **** a "**** ** ***********" ***?

******** **** ** ****** ********. ***** Yale ******** *** *** ******* **** in *** **** ******** ***** *** uses *****. * **** ***** **** have ***** ****** ************ ** **** cameras **** ** ***** *** ******* along.

**** *** *** *************, *** ****-**** taker, *** *************.

*****. ****** **** *** ***'* ********** your ********* **********. ********'* *** ** to ******** ****. ****'* *** ****** products *** ***** ****. ***** ********* have ********* ********* ********* ** *********** successes *** ****** ** ************* ** the ********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #10
Jul 20, 2023

**** ******* ** *** ******* ******** Hanwha **** ******** ********* ** ****-**** when ** *** *** ******* ***** in *** ********?

**** ******. *** ******** **** ****** made **** **** *** *** **** Hik ******* **** ******* ***. ** was *** ********* *** ****, **** with *** * ******. *** ******** of ****** ******* *** ******* ********* to ******* **** ****, *** ***.

*** **** ***** ** *** * series, **** ***** **** ** **** Hikua ******* ****** ** *****, ** buying **** ******* ** *** ***** locations, *** **** ** *** *** main **** ** ******'* ********.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #11
Jul 20, 2023

* *** **** **** ******** *** Chasm, *** ****** ***** ***** ** not * ****** ******* **** ******** Moore. *** ******** ** *******, ** able, ** ********** **** *** ********** or *********.

**** *************, ** ** **, **** budgets *** *&* *** ****'* * minority **** ** ***** ** ********. Taking ** *********** ******* ****** ** not * *** ****** *** *** organization, *** ******** **** **** ***** bigger ********* ******* ** *** ************* that ****. ****** ***** *** ** wrong, *** * ********** ******* **** address ** *******, *** ****'* **** leads ***** ********* ** *******.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #7
Jul 18, 2023

*** **** ******/********/**** **** **** *********** market ***** ***’* ******* ****’** *** best, **’* ******* ****** **** *** are ***** ****** ** * ***** where ***** ********* *** ***** *** best **** ***** ***** *** ******* come *** ** *** *****.

* ********** ******** **** ****.

**** *** *** ***** *** ***** - *** *** **** ** **** with *** ******. *** ***'** ***** have ********* *** **** *** *** use **** ** ****** ****.

******* - **** *** *** ****** and ** ********** **** ********* *** larger - *** ****** ****** ** be ********** ******* ******** ** ** WILL ****** **** **********. ************ - your ***** **** **** *** ** and *** **** ***** ***'** **** to ** ***** ** ****** ** rip *** * ****** ******* ********* no *** ***** *** ** *****.

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Michael Votaw
Jul 20, 2023

********** *****. * ****** **** **** with *** *** ********* ******* *** it **** ** * **** ** time ** * **** ******. ** customer **** **** **** ** **** and **'** ******* ** **** **** ever **** ** ** *** ***** out *** *******. *'* **** ** being * ********** **** ****** *** that ******** *** ******** ******* ** get **** **** *** *** ****.

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JH
John Honovich
Jul 20, 2023
IPVM

*******, ***, *'* *** **** **** is *********** *** ************* ******...

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Greg Hussey
Jul 18, 2023

* **** ** ** * ***** out ** *** **** @******. ***** ago ***** **** **** *********** ****** with ******* (*** ******), ******* ** failures/quality ***. ** **** ***** ***** products *** ***** **, ** *** costing ** ******* ***** ****** *** warranty ****** ** ***** ** ***** costs ** ******* *******. *** **** stepped ** ** *** ***** *** compensated ** *** **** ***** ***. I **** ****** ******** **** *** trust ** **** ***** *** **** been *********** ***. *********** *** ************ was **** ********* **** *** ******. I ******* ** **** **** ** our ****** ** ****** ** **** this **********. ** ** ***** ** charge ***. ** ***** ** "*** best" ** *** * ***% ***** the *******, ** ** *** ****** organization **** ** *** ******* (** course), *** ******** *** ******* ** their ****, ************, ********** ** ***** channel, *** **** ******* ******, *** they ******* *** ******* ** ***** of ********* *** ***** *** **** support... ** **** ******* *** **** a ****** **** **** *, * and * *** ***** ** *** more **** **** ** ********.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:* **** ** ** * ***** Out ** *** **** @******

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MA
Michael Amersek
Jul 20, 2023

* ********** *****. ***** ******** *** mostly ******** *** **** ****** ****. They *** ** ******** **** ******* some ***** ********** *********** ********* **** bans ** ******* ******. * ***** NEVER *** *** ** ***** ******** if * ****'* ****** **. *** every **** * **** ** *** their ********, * ** ** ************ with *** ********* **** ******* *** simply ******** ******.

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JH
John Honovich
Jul 20, 2023
IPVM

*******, *** *** ******* ***** ******** you *** ********* **? ****? ********? Hanwha? *** ** *** *****?

***, ** *** *** "***** ********** connections", *** **** ** **** *** of **** ****. *** *******,*** ****** ********** **** *****, *** UK **********, ***.

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U
Undisclosed #8
Jul 20, 2023

** **** **** *******?

******* ******** ******

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #12
Jul 21, 2023

* ******* **** * ***** *********** the ****** *** ****** **** **** of * ***** ******* *****. ***** even *** "***********" ******* ******* **** video. * ***'* **** *** ************* promoting *** ***** *********** ** **** color ************* ***** ****. ******* ***** ago ** **** ******** *** *********** that **** **** **** **** ****. Most ** **** **** ***** '*' and '*' ***** **** *** **** was * ******* *****. ***** **'* all ***** ************. **** *** *** intelligence ******* *** ********? *** *** the **** ******** *********? *** *** the **** ************* *********? * ******* that ****, ******** *** ****** **** the ******* *********** ******* *** ** sales ******. **** ***** ***** ******* these ********* *** ***** *** *********** of ************ ** *** ****** *****. Until ******* ************ *** ******** **** level ** ********* *** ******* *********** or **** **** ***** ************* ************ these ********* **** ******** ** ** the ******* ** *** ***********.

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JH
John Honovich
Jul 21, 2023
IPVM

* ***'* **** *** ************* ********* low ***** *********** ** **** ***** preproduction ***** ****.

* ***** ********* ** ****. ****, to **** ***** ***** ************, ********** distinctions ** *********** **** *********, *.*.****** ********* ******** **** - ** Manufacturers, ** *********. ****, ********* **** *******, *.*.************** *****-****** ****** ******** - ***, Avigilon, ****, *****, *****, ******* ********, Hanwha, *********, *-***, ****** *** *******

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