Should IPVM Ban Testing Dahua And Hikvision Products Because Of Human Rights Abuses? (2019)

JH
John Honovich
Nov 20, 2019
IPVM

We are going to continue to test all major products but we do want members to have an opportunity to discuss and to understand our reasoning as a number have recently objected (e.g., 1, 2, 3).

First the poll:

**** ** *** ** **** ******** testing *** ***** ********:

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 20, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*** ******* ** **** ** *** scalding **** ** ***, ***** * think ** ******** *** ********. **’* convenient ** ******* ** *** ******* raised ***** **** **** ****. *** irony ** *** ****** ** ** in *** **** ** **********, ******* highlighting ******* ******* *** ********** ** shootouts *** ** ******** *** ******* products ** **** ***’* ** ********* or ********* ** * *** ** no **** ********** ******* ******* ** said ********. ***** ** ***** ****** violations. ****’** ****** ** **** ****.

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CC
Chris Chambers
Dec 30, 2019

*****. ** ***** *** ** ******* of ***** ****, ***** ******* *** users ******** ******* **** **** *** never *** *** ******** *********** ***** these *********. *** **** ** ******* all *********** ** ** * ****** source ** ****/****/*******/***.

** ********, ***** ** **** ****** coverage ** ***** ********* *** ***** activities *********.

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JC
Jason Crist
Dec 30, 2019
IPVMU Certified

***** ****? * ***'* *** ***** we ******** ****. ********* ** *** negative *********** ** *****, ********* ***** products- **** **** *** ******* ** all ** *** *** ****** **** do *** **** ****- ** ***** product ***** ** ***.

* ***** ***** ** **** ********* between ********* ** *** ******* *** testing *** ******** ******* *** ******* of ***** **************.

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CC
Chris Chambers
Dec 31, 2019

* ***** ******* ** *** **** the **** ****** ** **** ****, with *** ******** ***** ******** ** this ******** *** ********** **** ****** paywall, ** *** *** ***** *** substantial ********** ** *******/*********** ** *** know *** **** *******. **+% ** the ****** *'* **** ** **** results, ***** * ***'* *** ******** else, *** *** * **** *** missed *** ******** ******* ** *****'* actions ** *****.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
Nov 20, 2019

**** ** *** ****** *** ****** for ***** ************ *********** *********. *** fact **** **** ***** ********* *** Dahua ***** **** ***** ********** ** my ******* (*** ******).

***** *** ****** ** ***** ***** products ** **** ** *** ****** that **** *** ********* ********* ***** rights **********.

* **** *** ******* ** *** and *****.

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 20, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* ******* ** *** **** ******* as *********** *** * ****** *****..

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U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 02, 2019

** *** **** ** **, *** would ********** **** ** ***********. *****/****.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Nov 21, 2019

**** ** *** ****** *** ****** for ***** ************ *********** *********. *** fact **** **** ***** ********* *** Dahua ***** **** ***** ********** ** my ******* (*** ******).

***** ** ******* **** * *** not **** *** ***** *** ********* were. ******, **** ****** **** ******** in ***** *********. **** *** ** IPVM ** **** ** *** *********** between ***** ********** (*** ******* ****** subsidies), *********** **** ***** ****** **********, etc. * ******* **** ****** ***** be ******* *** ** **** ***** prominence *** * ******* ** ** better ** ****** ******** **** ****** as ******** ** ** *** **** 5 ***** ***.

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 21, 2019
IPVMU Certified

***** ****, ****** *** ***** **** IPVM *** **** * ************ ** keeping **** ** *****. **** *** still **** ** ******** ** ***** happenings ******* ********** *** *******

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JH
John Honovich
Nov 22, 2019
IPVM

**** *** **** * ************ ** keeping **** ** *****

*****, *** ** *** *** ****. Would *** ** ******* ** **** only ********** ******** ***** ** ********* products? ** ** *****, ** *** not ***** ** ** ****, * am **** ****** ** ********** **** approach ** ****.

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 22, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*** ** *** ********* *********** * and *, ***** ***** ******** *********, banning ** *** ** **********, **** blah, ***** ****** ********* *** ***, we **** **** *** ******** *** to ******** ***** ******** **** ** IPVM. ** **** ******** ** ***** these ******* *** **** ******* ******** their ******** **** **** *** ******* once ***** ***** **** **** ************ addressed. **** ****

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JH
John Honovich
Nov 23, 2019
IPVM

** **** **** *** ******** *** to ******** ***** ******** **** ** IPVM

***, ** ********** **** **** *** decision ** *********** ***********.

** ** *****. *** ******* *** what **** ***. **** *** *** 'showcases'.

******, **** *** **** ** **** you **** ** ** ***** *** anything ******** ***** ***** ********* ** they ** ********* ********.

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 23, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* **** *** ********* “***” ***** around **** * ****, *** **** did ** ******* * *****? ***** look ** ********. ** ***, *’* prefer *** **** ********** ******** ********* and **** ** ** *****

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JH
John Honovich
Nov 23, 2019
IPVM

***** **** ** ********

***, ***** ***. * **** **** showcase *****.

** ******* ********** ** ** ********** or ********* ******

Image result for showcase trophy"

******* *** **** ******* ********** ** it?

** **** *** ***** *** *** saying "*****|*********|**** ** ********* *** * must ***" *** **** **** ***** be **********.

** ***** * **** *** ****** a ******'* **** **** ***** ** include * *** ** ********* ********* in ***** ****** ***** *********** ** not **********.

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 23, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** ** *** ********* ** *** like ****. *** ****** ***** ***** “display, *******”.

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JH
John Honovich
Nov 23, 2019
IPVM

*****'* * *********** **********.

**** ***** * ***** **********, ******* the ****** *** ***** ********* (** Dahua ** ****) * ****** - showcasing.

**** ******** * ******'* **** ****** and **** **** ********* *** **** or *** *** * ******** ******* - *********.

** *** ********, ****'* ****, * am ****** ********* **** ****** ********* that ***********.

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 24, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** *****. **, *’** ***** *** enough **** ****. *** *** ***** this **** ******** *******, **** *** CANT ** ** ****** **** * meant. ****** **** **** *** ********* the *** **** ** **** *****. Testing? *********? *********? **** **** ** pick

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JC
Jason Crist
Nov 24, 2019
IPVMU Certified

****’* **** ** ******* “*********”

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U
Undisclosed #7
Dec 01, 2019

"*** *** ***** **** **** ******** minutia, **** *** **** ** ** define **** * *****. "

*****,

** **** ***** ** ********** **** you ***** -and ** ****** ** ** ** ** **** ******* - whose fault is that? his or yours?

'****** ** *********'? ***-*****.

**** ********* ******* **** *** ******** by ******** ********** ** **** *****, rather **** ******** ***** ***** **** facts ** **** ***.

* **** **** ****** *********** ***** **** ** **** **** the ***** ***you *** *** ****.

*******.

**** ******** ** **** ****** ************* *** *** ******* ******* ******** related ** ********* - ************ ** the **** **** **** *** *** largest ******** ** ** ************ **** in *** ***** *** **** ****** for*************.

* ***** ****** ******* **** ****** string **** ***** *** *** ****** from - ***** **** ************* ***** John ** ****** ****.

** ** **********, ***** **** ***** 'you **** ***'* *** **** * get' ********* *** *** ******* ** debate ********.

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JC
Jason Crist
Dec 01, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** ***** ** **** *****, ** sought **** ** **** ****** ********* and *** ********** ** “********” ** “feature” **** ****. *** ******** ***** you **** *** *** ***’* **** me **** * ***** **** ****.

* ******* *** ****** *** ** featured, *********, *********** ** ******** *** want ** ** **** **. **** because **** *** *** ******** ** the ***** *****’* ******* **** ** their *******. **** ******* ****** **** consequences.

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U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 02, 2019

*****, **** ***** ** ******** ***** opinions *** ********** ************* *** *** against *** *** ****** **** ***** ultimately ******, **-******** *** ***** *** media ***** **** *** ******* ** IPVM ****** *** *** ********** *** simple ****** ***** ** *** *******.

***** ********, **** ***-** ***********. ***** Ho..but ** **** ****** *** **** grammar ******.

*******. ******** ********* *** *** *****.

**** * ****** ** *** ***** value ** ***, ********* *** ******. We *** *** ********** ** ***** we ********* *** ** *** **** first ****.

***'* **** ********.

** ** ** ***.......

***** ** ** **** **** ** explain.....

CC
Chris Chambers
Dec 30, 2019

***** *****. ******** *****. **** *** neither ************** *** ********* ** ****** consequences **** *** *******, ***** **** by ***** *** ********** ********* ** the ******* *** *** ********.

*** *.*. ********** ** *** *** in ****** ** ****** *** ************, and ********** ** **** ********* ** lack ******* **** *** ******* **************'* methods, ** ***** ********* ** ***** done ** *** ***** ***** ***** I *** **** ***** ***** **** in *** ****.

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JC
Jason Crist
Dec 30, 2019
IPVMU Certified

****? **** *** ********** ********* ** what ** ****. ********* * ** their ******* ** * ** ****** shootout **** ** ********* ****** **** test ** *** *** ****** **** do ** **** * ***'*. ******* who ******* *** **** ******* *** not *** *** ******** ******** ********* on **** * ****** ******* **** are. *** *** ********* *** ******** test ******* ***** **** ** ******* of *** ******* ** **** ***** assholes.

**** ** ** *** ** ***'** got **** **** ** *** ** but ** *** **** ** *** like *** ******** **** ** ***** try ******* **** *** ********** **** accurate *******

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JH
John Honovich
Dec 30, 2019
IPVM

* ** ***** ******* ** * 31 ****** ******** **** ** ********* within **** **** ** *** *** things **** ** ** **** * don't.

** ***** *** *** ****** ******** related ** *** ****, ** **** certainly ******* **. *******, ** **'* an ************** ******** ** * *** light ****, ** *** *** ***** to ******* ***** ****** ******, ********** ownership, ***. ** **** *** *** directly ** ***** ******** ********* ********.

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CC
Chris Chambers
Dec 31, 2019

** ***** ***** **** *** ******* again. **** **** ** **** **** IPVM ******* *** *** ********** ******** of *** ******* **** ** *** Hikua **** ******** ******* *** **** ever *** **** **** *******.

***, ***** *** ********* ******** **** want, *** **** **** ****, **** whatever ******* **** **** ** ****** any ******** *******. ********** ********* ********** other **** **** **** ** ***** single *** ** **** ******* **** not ****** **** ******.

*'** ********* ************* ** ******* **** you ****. **** ********* *** *** remotely **********, ***** *** ******* ** what ** ******** ****.

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JC
Jason Crist
Dec 31, 2019
IPVMU Certified

**** *****, ******** ** ******** ** research *** ******* ** **** **** they ****. **** ** *******

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #12
Jun 10, 2021

"* ******* *** ****** *** ** featured, *********, *********** ** ******** *** want ** ** **** **. **** because **** *** *** ******** ** the ***** *****’* ******* **** ** their *******. **** ******* ****** **** consequences. "

* ********** **** **** ****** *** and ***** **** ***. **** **** understands ** ****; ** ***** ** distract *** ****** ** ****** **** opinions ******** ***, ****** ******* ** is ****** ** ******, ** **** cases, **** *** ***** *** *** they *** ***** ***** *** ** us ***** ******** **** *** ********** opposition. **** ** * *********** **** and ** *** ** ******* ** it ** ******** *** ********* ** the ******* ** ** **** ***** of **. *** **** **** **** wheels **** *** ** ***** *** cows **** **** *** ****** ***** you *** **** ***** **** ****. He **** **** *** ** *** day *** *** ** * ************ blogger ** **** *** **** **** paid, ** **** ** **. ***** are ******* ** ****** *** ** while ***** ********** ********** *********** **** the ****. ***** *** ********, ***'* get ***** ** ****** **. ** is ******* ********** **** **** **. Interact **** **** ** **** ** possible *** **** *** ************ ** entertainment; **** ** *** *** "**. Toads **** ****" **** ** ****** world. ** ** *** *** **** him ***** ** ********* ** *** other ** ****** *****, ***, ********, paid ** ******* ** ** * legitimate ********** ** **********. ***********, ** is **** ** *** ***, **** entertaining *** ** *****, ***** ** the **** **** *** ************* ********** perspectives ** ******** ** **** *******, offered ** ** ******* *********. ** is * ************* *** **** ***** mold *** ***** ** ****** ** wandering ***** *** ** *** *** neglects ** ******** ** *********** ***** critical ******** ***** *** *** *** bs *** **** ** **...

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #13
Jun 10, 2021

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*** ** *** **** ** ************ profile * **** **** *****:)

NM
Nyasha Muzwidziwa
Jun 16, 2021

* **** * ******* **** ** coming **** * ************. ********.

U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 02, 2019

****** **** ******* *** *** ***** public **** ***** **********.

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U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 02, 2019

* *** *** ********** *****. * then **** ** *** ****** *** look ** ** ****** *** *****.

***'* ***** ***** *****'* ****** **** to *** *********** ********** ** *** title *******. (?)

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #11
Mar 12, 2020

***, * ********** **** **** *****, reports ** ***** ***** *** ******** background ** *** ********* ********* *** political ***** ** **** ** ********* way. ** ****** ** ** **** my *** ********* ***** **** ********* I'm ***** ** ** ******** ****. If **** ***** * ***** ******* Hikua ***** ** ***** ****** ****** then **** *** ******* ********** ** the ******** ** ******* ** *** to ***** *** *** ** ** business ****. * *** **** ******* and **** ********* *** *** ******** information ***** *** *** *********.

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Brent Valeski
Nov 21, 2019
Ellipse Security, Inc.

********** ** ***** ****** ******, **** and *** *******, (******** ****** **********) they **** ******** ** ** * force ** ***** *******. ********* ***/** praise ** ******* ******, *** ******** testing ** ******* ******** *** ******** issues. *** *** *** ****** ** both. **** ******* *** *********** ** Hikvision *** ***** ******** ******** **** those *** **** **** ** **** as ***** *** ** ***.

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U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 02, 2019

*****.....

@**** *******.

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Nov 21, 2019

* ******* ********* ********** ** ******** is ** ********* ******* ****. ** ban *** ********** ** ******* ******** because ** * ********** ************** ** their *************' ******* ***** ** ******* blow ** **** ***********. ***** ********** those ******** **** *********** **** ** their ********* ***, ****'* * ******* journalism *** ** ****, *** *** scales ****** *************** ******* ******** *** *********** *** including **************.

* **** **** ********** *** *********, but * ***** ***** ****** * be ***** ********** ***** ******* **********, News, *** *********. **** ** *** point **** **** ***** **** ***** on ******* ********** ****** *** ** involved ** ********* ** ** *** possible, *** ********* ********* ******** ** News **** *** * ********* ***** (that ***** ** ********* ********* ** staff ****), ** ******** **** *** appearance ** ****.

* ***** **** ** *** ****'* opinions ***** *********'* *******, *** *******, to ** ****** ********** ***********. *** *******, *** "********, ******... SIA" **** ****** **** ******************. ******* *** "*** ******** ********* Sponsored... ************* **********" ******* ***** ** marked****(****** *** *** **** ***** **********, preceding *** ********** *** "******** ****** Off" *******, ***** ****** **** **** their *** ************-***-******** ******* ****** ***********).

**** ********** ***** **** * **** ethical ***** **** ******** * ********** of *********** ***** ***** ******** *** strong ********* ***** ******* ******* *** use ** ***** *** ********* ********.

**** ****** * *** ********, ********* strongly, **** **** *****, *** ******** would ** ***** *** ** **** weakened ****** **** ** ***** ********. I ***** *** ****** ** **** the ******* *********** *** ********* ******** would ** ****** ** *** ******* reviewing ***** *** ********* ********, *** you ****** ******** ** ** ** with ** **** ** ******** ** objectivity ** *** ***.

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JC
Jason Crist
Jun 16, 2021
IPVMU Certified

********** ************** ** ***** *************' *******

*** *** ** ****** ***** *** agree ****** ** ****? *’** ***** decent ********* *** *** ** ******** featuring **** *** **** ** *******. I ** *** *** ***** ********* to ***** ******* *** *** * think **** ********* ********* *** **** a **** ****- ** ********.

U
Undisclosed #14
Jun 16, 2021

* ***** **** ** ***** **** the **** ** ******** *** ****, but ******* ******** ** ****** **** is *** ** *** ******** ** surprisngly **** *********.

UD
Undisclosed Distributor #4
Nov 22, 2019

* ******* ** ****** ** ****** share *****: ** **** ** **** share ******* ***********, *** ****** ******** to ****.

*** ***** ** ********* ********* ********** between *** ************* *** ********* "******* legitimacy" ********.

*****'* *** *********'* ************** *** **** know ***, *** ** ***** **** because ** ****. *** *********** *** end-users *** ****** ***** *** ***** judgements, *** ** *** *** ******** those *** ****** ** *** ********* else.

**** ***** ********* *** ********** ******, or ***** ****** ***** ***** *** to ***** *******, **** ******* ****.

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CS
Carl Schroeder
Nov 22, 2019

**'* ******* ** ** **** *** majority ***** **. *'* **** **** many ****** **** ********* ** **** site **** ** ***** ********* ** help **** **** ****** *********. **** they *** **** ******* "*" *** a ****** **** ******** **** ******* a ****** ** ******* "*" *** 1/4 *** ***** ** ******* ********** to ****. ** *** *** ** your ****** *** *** *** **** influenced **** ****** ** ******** *** product. **** *** *** **** **** where ** ***** **** ** *** it *** ****. **** *** ****** their ******** ****** ** *** **** and *** ******* ** **** *******.

* ********** **** **** **** **** their **** ** ** ******* *** morality *** ** **** **** **** at **** *****. ********** ** *** desire ** ***** ** "******** *********" I ***** ** ***** ** * great ******* ** *** ******** ** not ******* **** ** ******* *******. Even **** **** ********** * ***** not **** **** ***** ****** ** I ** **** *** ********** ****** to ********** ******** ** ******* ** a ******* ***** ** * ********** that ******, ******* *** ********* ** the ***** ****** ** *** ******.

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Rumen Palmov
Nov 22, 2019

**'* ******* ** ** *** ****** and ***** **** ****** *** ***** morality ***** **** ** ****** ***** reports. *** ***** ***** ** *** black *** *****, ***** *** *** only **** *** *** ****. ***, morality *** ** **** **** ****, but ** ***** ** ** ** in **** *****. **** ** ****** that *** *** ********** ********* ** benefit **** ******** ** ******* ***** business **** *** ****** ** *** that "******, ******* *** ********* ** the ***** ****** ** *** ******" (I ***** **** ***** ** **** fit **** ** *********). ** ********* sells ******* ***** *** **** ** kill ********* ** *****, *** ** mention *** *** ***** **** *** was ******** ** ****** ******** ******* in ***** ********* ***** ****** ********* civilian ******. ***, *** *** ******* sure **** *** *** ********* ** evil ***** **...***** *******, ****-********* ********, McCarthy *** **********? **** **** ***** for **** ******* ****** ** *** world **** **** ****** ***** *****...

** *** ***** - ** ****** IPVM ****** ******** ** **** *** report ** ********* *** ***** ********. At ******* **** *** **** ******* on *** ****** **** ** *** have *** ***** ** ***** *** trends ** *** ******** ** *** way ** *******. ** **** ******* to ** * ****** ****** ** information ** **** ******** ** ***** to ***** ***** ******** *** **********. The ****-***** ******** ** *** ****** is ******* ****** ** **** ***** regions ** *** ***** *** ***** are **** ******** **** ** **** companies. *** **** ** *** **** about ******** ******. **** ** **** I ***** **** **** ****** ******** take * ****** **** ** ***** Chinese *** ******** ********* ** **** are ** *********** **** ** ** what *** ** ******** ** *** longer ****. ** *** **** ********** in ******** **** ***** * *** really ******* ** *** ************ *** scale ** *** ******** ******** ** general ** *** ******** ****** ** China. **** ** ** ***, ** cannot ** ************** ** ********* ** a ****** *****.

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Ross Vander Klok
Nov 22, 2019
IPVMU Certified

** ** ******* ** ** *** some ****** ******** ** ******* ****** to *******. ******** ** *** ********** what *** ** ********** ****/***/***** **/****** about *** ********** ** ******* ** this ********** ******* *** ** ********** (that ** **** **) **** *** own *** ** *** *****'* ******* surveillance *************.

* ** **** *** *** ********** is **** *** ** *** **** are ***** ***** ************ *******. ** and **** **** *** ******* ***** own ****** ** "*********** *****", ** there ** ****......

* **** **** ***** *** ****** that **** ***** ***** ******* ** misaligned.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Nov 22, 2019

* ***** ** **** ********* ** many, ** ***, *********** ******* ** North ******* ***** **** "***" ** not ****** ********* *** ***** ********. Whether ** *** *** **** ** use ***** ********, ******* *** ****** (not **** ****, ** *** ***) they *** ***********. **** *** ***'* use ****, ***'** **** ** **** about ****. **** *** ***** ***** need ** ******* *** **** ***'* use ****, ********** ***** ****'* ****** be ******** * ******-**** *******.

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Ross Vander Klok
Nov 22, 2019
IPVMU Certified

* ***** **** **** ***% ***** is *** * ***** ** ******** reviewing *** ********.

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U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 02, 2019

*:*

**********.

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U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 01, 2019

******* ** *** ** *** ********* military *************** ** **** ****** ******, the ***** ** ** ******* ******* is ***** ****** *** **** *** destruction.

***** **** ******* **** ********* ** a ***** **** **** ******* ** his ***** ******, *** **** **** people **** *** ****** ** **** category ** *****, ******?

** *** ** *******, **** **** provide ******** *** ******** ***** *** cannot ****** *** **** ********* ** the ********. *** ***** ** **** thread ** * ******** **** ** asking *** ************ **** ********* ** comment ****** ***** ******* ******** **** of ***** *** ********* ** **** based ** ***** ****** *****. **** is ***** ** **** ** ******* to ******, ****** *** ********** ******** relationships ***** *** ******* ******* *** an ********* ******* **** ** ********* it *******.

*** **** ** ******, *** ** No. * ****** *** **** ***** we *** ******* **** ***** ******.

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CC
Chris Chambers
Dec 30, 2019

******** ********** ***** *********, ********** *** closing *********. ******** ***** *********** ** communist ******* ** *** ****** ** a *****.

**** **** **** ****** ** *** 2nd *********. ***'* **** ** **** separately, *******.

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Armando Perez
Feb 12, 2021
Hoosier Security and Security Owners Group • IPVMU Certified

**** ** *** ********** ** * slippery *****...

U
Undisclosed #6
Dec 01, 2019

** **** **** *** **** * concern.

** **** ** **** ***** ** pooled **** *** ***** ***** ** provide, *******, ******, ***********, **** *** maintain ********** ******** ************** *** * multitude ** ********, ************, ********* *** private *******, ********.

** **** ******, ******** *** ***** our ********* ** ***** ******* *** their ******** ** ** ******* ******** conscious.

* ***** *** ******* *** ********* as * ******** ***** ******** **** provides ************ ******* *** ******. ******* I **** * *** ** *********, not ********* ******* * ********* ****** be * ******* ** *** *** grasp ** **********.

**** ** ** ***, ** *** at *** **** *****. *** ***** lines *** *******, ******** *************** ** social ***** ******, ****** *** *****.

* **** ***** ********, **** **** knock-off ********, ******** *** *** **** security ******* * *** **** *** online. ********, ****** *** **** *******, taking ** *** **** ** *** deeper *** ***** ******* ********* *** funded *** ********** ** ***** *******, I ******* **** ** ***** ****** is * ***** *** ** ****** technology, ****** **** *****...*******'* *** **** in *** ****, *** *** ** the ****** ******.

***** *******, ***** **** *** ** a ******** ******* ***** **** ******** is ***** *** *** ***** ****, but **** ***** *** **** ****? Does *** **** **** ******** ******** guaranteed **** ****** ** *** ***** to *** **** *** ********** ** converted ** ******* **********?

******** * ******* ***, * ****** of ****** *** ******** ** *** can ***** *** **** **** *********** and ******* ******** **** ** **** will **** **** *** *** * job **** * *** ******** ******* in *** ****?

** ** **** *** ******* **** IPVM, ******* ** ****** ** ** the **** ** **** *** **** about *** ******* ********* *** *** that *** ******** ******* *** **** being ** *** ****** ****** ************, The ******** ******* *** *** ***** to **** ******* **** ****.

** ********* **** *** ***** **** money **** ***** **** *** **** of **** **** *******, ***** *** take **** ***** ******* ***/*** ** affects **** *** ******** ** ***/**** futures?

*** *** ********* *** ***** ********* that *** *** ** *** *** of *** ****** ** *** ***** everyday *** *** **** ******, ******* regulated *********, ***** ** ** ********** intent **** ** * **** **** Sun-Tzu ********. * ******** **** **** not ***** ******** *** ** ******** for ******** * *** ******* ********* Party ******.

*** **** ****'* ****? ****'* **, if ** **** **** ****** *** the *** **** ****** **** ******* and ********, ***** *****.

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U
Undisclosed #8
Dec 02, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*** *****, **** ** ****,

**** ** ***, **** *** ****,

******** ***** ***** *****,

******* ** ***** ****.

-********* #*

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Brian Robertson
Dec 02, 2019

***. *'* **** *** ***** ** communism ***** **********. *** *** *** sumbitches *** *** **** *** ** hell.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #9
Dec 03, 2019

*** ** ***** ******** *** ***** that **** ** ***** *** *** "budget *********" *********, ****** ***'*.

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Md
Marc de boer
Dec 04, 2019
RRBSecurity

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****** *********** *** **** ***** *** politicians, ***** ****.

*** *** *** *** **** ***** but *** *** **** *** **** on *** *******.

**** ** ****

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JH
John Honovich
Dec 04, 2019
IPVM

*** *** *** *** **** ***** but *** *** **** *** **** on *** *******.

*** ***** **** ***** *** ********* is **** **** *** *** '*** with *** **** ** *** *******' when ** ***** *********, ********* *** **** ********* ***** systems ** ********.

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U
Undisclosed #10
Dec 05, 2019

* ***'* *** *****'* ***** ********* and ***** ***** ***** *********, **** being **** *** *******'* *** ****, ignoring **** ****** **** ** ** away ** **** ***** **** ****** to **** ****** ** ***** *** dont **** ** ** **** ****** to *** **** *** ******** **** and *** ********.....

**** ***** ****** *** $**** *** iphones **** ** *** **** **** people *** **** **** ** * guess *** ********* ******* **** ***** than ***......

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JC
Jason Crist
Dec 05, 2019
IPVMU Certified

*** *** **** **** *** ***** manufacturing **** *** “**** ******”? ***** rights **********, ******* ******** *** ********* against *** ********** *** ****** ********* outrage.

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U
Undisclosed #10
Dec 05, 2019

* ****** ***** ***** ********** ** look *** *** ***** ********** ********* just **** *** ** **** *** its ***.

********** ** ** ******** ** **** the *** **** ** *** ****** or *** ****** ****** ***** *******, or ******* ***** *********, **** ** it **** *** ********* ** *** future ** ***** ********* **** *********, Just **** *** ** **** **** it **** "****" *** "***' ****** for *** **** ** ** *********.

* ***** ****** **** ******** **** prove *** ***** **********... *** ** main ***** **** ****** ** ****** will *** **** ******* **** *** cheap ***/** ******* ******* *** *** price. **** **** **** ******* **** help *** ****** **** *** **** think ***** ****** ** ******** *****, dare * *** **** ***** **** with * ***** ******* **** ** things **** ** ** **** ***** company *** *******.

*** ** ** *** ******* ** '' *** ***** *************" **** * single *****. * ** ***** **** foxconn ** * ********* *******, ***** that ** **** ***** ***** ** is ***** ****, **** ** *** all ** *** ***** ** ************* in ***** ***** *** ***.

*** *** ********* ********, *** *****'* largest ******** ************* *******, ******* **** than * ******* ******* ** *****, its **** ********** ****. *** ******* produces ***********, ****** ********* *** ********** sets *** ******* **** ****** *** world. ** ***** *** **** ** its ***** **** ********** *** ***-**** production ** ******* *** ******** ** customers ****.

***** *** **** ***** **** ***** manufacturers "******" ***** *** ** ** pertains ** *********** *** **** ******** security ***********, *****, *****, *** ***** Korea.

* ********* ******'* **** ***** *** S_Korea ** **** ***** *** ***** never *** ** ******* ***** **** then.

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JC
Jason Crist
Feb 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

***** **** ** ******* **** ******, what’s *******??

JH
John Honovich
Feb 12, 2021
IPVM

*****, * *****, * ***** **'* perfectly **** ** ******* **** ******. What ***** ** ***** **** "**** time ****** ********" ** ****. ***, if *** *** ****, ** ***** never **** **** **** ******.

** *** ***** ***** *** ******** purposes, *** *** ********* ** *********. And, ** * **** *** **** originally, *** ******* ***** ***** *** me.

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JC
Jason Crist
Feb 12, 2021
IPVMU Certified

****, ***** *** **** *** ***'* sell ******** *****, *** **** ********* these ************** * **** **** ***; you **** ******* *** ** **** including ***** ******** ** **** *** far ******** ********.

******* *** *******, *** *****'* **** a ***** ***** ******** ******** *** never ***, *** **** **** *** lid *** ** **** * **** time ***. * **** ** **** hint ** **** *** ** ***** that ** ***** ****** *** ****** to "** *** ***** *****" **** it ***** ** * ***** ******* than ** **** ** ***** ********* leader/movement ******* ********* ****. * **** we *** **** ** * *******.

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