Sales People Criticize Security Engineering Director Who Complains About Unsolicited Sales Calls

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John Honovich
•Apr 09, 2023
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Unsolicited sales calls have become a common tactic for Silicon Valley companies to increase growth, though at the expense of hundreds of millions of interruptions.

On security engineering director recently complained about this on LinkedIn threatening not to do business with companies that do that:

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*** ******** *** ******** *********** *********** her:

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********, ** *** **, ******** ***'* phone ***** ******** ** *** **** *********** **** (********* ******* ******* ****).

* ***** ******* ** ***** *** by **** *********** ***** ***** ***** as *** ****** ** **** ****** for ****** *** *** *** ********** and ****'* *** ** ** ****** is * ******** *********** ** ******* in ******* ***** * ***** ****** of ********* *** ***** ******* ****** benefit.

*********** **** ** **** *** ** recipients *** ******:

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Undisclosed End User #1
•Apr 09, 2023

* **** ** **** *** **** way ***** **** ***** *** * don't **** ** **** ** *** on ********. ** * *** *** call *** ** ******** *** ********** then * ** *** ***** ** pick ** *** ****.

* ** * **********/********* ** ***** so **** * ****** **** ******* or *** *** ******* ** ********* I ** ***** ********. * ***'* want ** ** *******/******* ** ***** people, * ** ****** ***** ** job *********** *** ****** ********** ** my ***** ** * *** **** my ********.

***** ***** ****** ***** * *** minutes *** ******** *** **** *** cold ******* *** **** ***** ******* respective *****. *** **** ** ** if * *** * *** ********** or *** ******* ******** *****? ** your ******* ** * ***** *** for *** ******** **** *** ****** I ******* **** ** ** ** radar ***** * ** ** ********.

** ******** *** *** * ***** take * **** ** ******* ** I *** **** *** ****** ** the ***** ****** *** **** **** down *** ********** ****** ****. ***** they ****** ** *** ***'* ******** their ****** *****. ** ****** * first *** *** ******** ** *** who * ** ******* **** ** I **** *** *** * ** or *** ****** *** *************.

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Michael Silva
•Apr 09, 2023
Silva Consultants

* ***'* **** * *** **** calls ***** *** *** **** **** manufacturer's **** ** ***********. * ******** respect ***** ****** *** ********** ** reach ***. * ****** ****** *** phone ******** ******* ******, ** **** leave * ***** ****. **** * have ****, * ******* **** **** back ****** **** **** *** ******* is *** ******* ** **** ** interest. **** **** ****** **** ***** in *** ********, * ******* *** to ******* ** ***** *** **** I **** *** ****.

**** ******* ******* ** ** * guy * **** *** *** *** Technical ******** ******** *** *** ** the *** ********** *********. ** ******* a *** ** ********** ***** *** made **** **** ******** **** **. He ******** ******** ******* * ******* or ******* ** ****** ****** ***, and *** *** ** *********** ** even ***** **** ***. * **** hotshot.

**** ******* * *** ***** *****, and ******* ** **** *** *** as * ********, *** **** * position ** * ***** ************** *** one ** ***** ***** ************ *********. He ***** ** ******* ** **** of *** **** ****** ** *** dealt **** ** *** ****, *** on *** ******** **** ** *** table. ** **** **** **** * very ******** ********** *** ***. ** lasted ***** *** ****** *** **** dropped *** *** ***.

** *** *** ****** ****, ***** everyone **** ******* ** **** *** to *** ***, ** ***** **** be *** **** ****** **** *** will *** ** **** *** ****.

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JH
John Honovich
•Apr 09, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Michael Silva

***** ******** **** ******* ** **** way ** *** ***

*******, ******! *'** ********* ** ********** that. ********? ****** *** **** **** you *** *** **** ** ***** them **** *******? * *** *** people *** **** *********** ***** ***** would **** **** *** ***'* **** just *********** ******** ** ********* ** the ****** *** ** ** **** those *** ***'* ********** **** *** on **** **** *****, ***.? ** we ****** ****** ** ***** ******** with ***** *******, ******'* ** **** reach *** ** *** *** ********* who ***** **** ** ***** **** us ****** **** **** *** ****** who ****** ***?

*******, **** ******* ******* *** *****? Curious *** **** **** ******* ***?

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Undisclosed #2
•Apr 10, 2023
In reply to Michael Silva

** ******* * *** ** ********** power *** **** **** **** ******** knew **.

*'** ****** **** **** ***** *** two **** **** ** *** ** someone ** - ** ***** **** - ** *******:

**** **** ****** ***** ** ******* - *** **** **** ******** ***** about ***** ****** **, *********, ********* revealed...

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John Honovich
•Apr 10, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #2

** ******* ** - ** ***** core - ** *******

**** *** ******* ******. ** *** an "*******" ** ** *** * very **** ****** *** **** ********* with *********** ***** *****? * ***'* know ********* **** ******** ******'* ************ but * ** ***** **** *** plausible.

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Undisclosed #2
•Apr 10, 2023
In reply to John Honovich

**** *** ******* ******. ** *** an "*******"

* *** ****** * *****/**** ***** human ****** ** *******.

** **** ******** ****, * ***** the ** *** **** ********* ** social ***** - ***** ** * relatively ****** ********* (***) **** *** enveloped **** ***-******** ** **** ** strut ***** ******* *** *** ****/*******/**** their *****/******* *** **.

***** * ** *** **** *** personally, * *** *** *** *** way ** *** ***** ** *** case, *** **** ******* ***** ** least ********* **** * **** *********** for ** *** ****** *******.

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John Honovich
•Apr 10, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*'* **** *** ** * ****** an "*******" *** ***** ****** ** unsolicited **** *** **** *****? **** it's ***** "***" **** *** ********** excuse ** **** ***** ** "*******" thing ** **.

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Michael Silva
•Apr 10, 2023
Silva Consultants

* *** ** ******* ****** ** people, ** ****** **** ***** ******** is ** ****, ****** **** **** done ********* ** ******* *********. *** to *** *** ********, *** * subscribe ** *** "*** *** *** shall *******" *** "**** *** *** shall ****" **********. * ******* ****** who *** *** ***** *** ****** rather **** **** ******* **** *** waiting *** *** ******** ** **** in. (* *** ********** *** ****** may *** ***** **** **** **********, and ******* **** *** :)

**** ******* ** *******, * **** never ******** * **** **** ****. I *** **** *** ** *** school ********* **** * **** **** call *** ** ***** ****. * told **** ** ***** *** ***** "Boiler ****" *** **** *** **** to ** ** **** *** *** questions. **** ********** **** **** ** Exacq/Axis ****** **** * *** *********.

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John Honovich
•Apr 10, 2023
IPVM
In reply to Michael Silva

**** ********!

* ******* ****** *** *** *** there *** ****** ****** **** **** sitting **** *** ******* *** *** business ** **** **

*** ******** ******* *** ***** **** a ****** ******* ***? * *** of ****** **** ** ** ********** and **** **** ***** ** **** once. **** ****** ** ************* ***'* care *** **** **** ***** *********.

* ******** ** ******* ** *** various ****** *** ******* **. *****'* so **** ** **, **'* **** to ******* ** **********.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
•Apr 10, 2023

***** ** ** *** ******* ********* was ******** **** ***** ************ *** company. *** *** *** *** ********** salesperson ** **** ***** ***** ***, but *** ******* ** ******** ** buy ***** ***** ****** ***** *** deploy * **** ******* ********.

*********** ***** ** **** ** ***** to ****. *** ***** ******* ***** like **** *****'* ********** **** ********* to * **** **** *****.

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Undisclosed #4
•Apr 10, 2023

**'* *** *** ******* *********** ****, it's *** ******** ***** ***** ********** you *** *** ********** **** *** the *******.

******* ** *** ***** ********.

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Shannon Davis
•Apr 10, 2023
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #4

****** ** ** *** ******** *****, especially **** *** **** **** *** are *** **********.

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Ross Vander Klok
•Apr 10, 2023
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Undisclosed #4

* ***'* ***** ***** **** **** day ** *** *** *** *** never ***** * *******. ***** **-** times ** **** (** **** * finally ********* *** ******), **** *** blocked. ***** * ******* ** ** is ********* ****** ** **** *** interrupt ** **** ** *** ***** they ***** **.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #5
•Apr 10, 2023

* ** ***% ******** **** ** the "******* ******* *******" *****.

****** ** ********* ****** ** **** a ***** ************ (****** ******, * called *** ** *** ******, ** contacts, ******* **** *********** ********* **** email).

***** **** ** **** **** * bit ** *** **** ** * haven't ***** **** ** *** ***** Senders ****** ***, *** **** *********** the ***** *** * **** ******* of **** ***********.

***, ** **** ****/******** ****** ***** I've *** *** *****.

****: ***** ***** ******** ******** [*** defender ** *********], *** ** **** effective **** *** ** *** **** list ***].

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Undisclosed #2
•Apr 10, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

* ** ***% ******** **** ** the "******* ******* *******" *****.

*'* ** **%.

* ****'* **** **** **** ******* existed ***** ** ****** ***** ** if * ****** ** ****** **... and * **** **** ** *** full **** *** *** **** ****** of *****.

** * ** ********* * **** from * ******* ******, ****** ** other ***** ******, * **** *** the ******* *** * *** ***** they ****, **** **** **** ** back **.

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #6
•Apr 10, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #5

* *** ****** ** *** ** cell *******, *** ** ******* *** a **** ******* ** **** ***** for **. ** ** *****'*, **** it's * ***-***** ** ******/*****.

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Undisclosed Integrator #9
•Apr 13, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #6

* **** *** *** ****** ** call ***-********* ***** **** **** *** are **** *** *** *** **** calling **. **** ******* ***** ****** 99% ** **** *******

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Undisclosed End User #7
•Apr 11, 2023

* ********* ***** ****** * ***** call **** ** ******* ******. *** last ****** *** *** ** **** phone ****** ***** * *** ** businesses, *** *** ****** ** **** seems ** ** ***** **** ****, and **** ********, ***** **** *-* calls * **** * ***** *****.

*******, ******** * *** ****** ***** my ******* *****'* ***** * **% chance **** ****** * *** ****** they **** ******* ** ** ***** or **** ** ****** ** * have ****** **** *******, ** **** really **** *** **** ******* *** to **** *** ** ****** ***********. After *** *** **** **** ****** sombody ** ** ********* **** * had ** *** ******* ***** ********* to * ******* ****, *** **** still **** **** ** ***** ****** through ******** *** ***** ******.

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:* *** ** *** ******* ***** Addresses ** * ******* ****, *** They ***** **** **** ** ***** People

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
•Apr 11, 2023

****** *** ** ********* **** *** personal ****** ***** ** ********* ***** done ** *******. ******** **, ******** etc *** *** **** *********** **** and ******* ** **** ******* *** dialing ** *** ***** ***.

** **** ******* ****'* ****, ** one ***** ** **. *** *** need ** * *** *** ** nos.

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Undisclosed #2
•Apr 11, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

****** *** ** ********* **** *** personal ****** ***** ** ********* ***** done ** *******

*** ** ****** *** ****** - if * *** ** ** ****:no, ** ***'*.

** **** *** ******* ****** ** using *** ***** ********* ** ****, with ***** **** **** ** **** their *****. ***** ** ******* ******** about ****, ** **** **** ***** anyone *** **** ****** ** ****** unknown *******.

*** *** **** ** * *** for ** ***

*** *** **** *** ****? * sale *** **-*** ****** ******* ** your ******* *** ******* ** *** and **** **** *****? (* ****** that **% ** ****** **** ***'* give * **** *** **** **** hang ** *** **** **).

****** ***** ** * ** ** old ****** *** *** ***** ** ring ***** ** ******** **** ****.

*** **** ** ** *** ****** bro *** **** ****1 **** will have long moved on before the repurcussions of these tactics kill off future growth.

** * *****?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #8
•Apr 11, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #2

*'* ******* ****** ******** **** **** comment ******. *** ** ** * numbers **** - **** ***** ********* have **** *** ***'* **** ** have *** **** ******** *********** ** Verkada's ****.

******* ***'* *** ***** ** ****** SDR *****, ** *** **** ***** it *** *******. ******* **** ***** to **** **** * **** *** of ******* ******** *** **** ***** aggressiveness. *** ******* ** **** **** of ***** **** *** ****** ** absolute ******* , ** **** ***'* care **** *** ***** ** *** many ********* **** **** *** ** the *******.

** ** *****? * ***'* ***** so. *** **** ****** ***'* ****. Money *****.

**** ****: * ****** *** * gong.......

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Undisclosed #2
•Apr 11, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #8

*** ** ** * ******* ****

********* ****.

*** ***** *** ******* **** **** up ** ****** ****** *** ******* that ***'*.

**'* ****** ** ****** *** '*** vibes' (* ********* *** ********** **%** potential [*******] *********) ** *** ***** end **** ********* *** *** *** in **** '****** **** ********** ****' stage.

*** ****** ****** ****** **** ***** requires **** ******** *********'* **** *** ** ******** **** *** ***** ****** *** called ****. (***** *** ***** * mentioned).

** **** ******* ** *** ****** can ******* *** ***** ****** *******that **** *** ** - but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

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JH
John Honovich
•Apr 12, 2023
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***** **** ** ******** **** * sales ******. * **** ** ****** that **** *********** *** ** ********** cold ***** ** *********** ***** *** recipients ***** ****, ** ** ** the *********** ** **** *** ********* is ********* ** **** **** * call.

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Derek Weikel
•Apr 13, 2023

** * ******** ***** ****** * receives **/** ** ***** ***** *** day * ****** *** **** ****** personally * **** ***** ** ******** with * ******* **** ********* ** my **** *** ******* **** ** number ** ** *** ** *** call **** * **** *** **** company’s **** */* ***** ** *** day **’* ********** ****** **** **** keep ******* **** ***** ****** **** over *** **** ** ****** ** from *** ***** **** ****

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