Pushbutton RTE Done Legally?

I am doing some repair work on a site that has a maglock on a herculite door. I understand in most circumstances we need 2 means of egress. This door has a regular mushroom emergency exit button wired to an altronix timer to give it a delay when pushed. Besides the fact that it isn't set to the required 30 seconds of open time isn't this a code violation? The button should directly interrupt power at the door and shouldn't rely on another electronic component (which can fail even if it simply loses power). They also oddly enough have the motion detector which has it's own timer wired in parallel with the button to the same trigger input on the altronix timer? It like the button isn't breaking the power directly eithere. It's so odd but is this in any way shape or form sound like it's wired properly? I think it's a mess. I always wire a pneumatic button and the motion or other device in series with power to the mag lock so they depend on nothing else to open that door.

Also, how do you handle a situation such as this when you know darn well the door isn't compliant and you were the last one to touch it to do a repair? Do you make the customer sign a disclaimer or something?

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