New Orleans Traffic Cameras Giving Speeding Tickets To Parked Cars
This is an operator failure not a camera one. Just like where I live, every speeding/red light camera ticket has to be examined and processed by a PERSON. I don't know of any systems (in North America anyways) that employ LPR for automatic issuance since, as IPVM illustrated in their test of Hikvision's LPR camera, the technology is still sketchy at producing accurate results.
Furthermore in pretty much any jurisdiction an actual sworn officer needs to sign off on the offense because computers cannot legally charge you with one. If you went to court the officer that signed off on it would be testifying against you, not the camera.
This particular case sounds like a "lowest bidder" scenario employing people of questionable intelligence. You don't need to be a trained cop to approve tickets, just sworn in under whatever ordinance or act allows for it. Meter maids are much the same.
"This is an operator failure not a camera one."
Not sure if I agree with that... I think it is both.
The camera is the thing that is grabbing plates from parked cars in its FoV - instead of from cars that are actually in the travel lane.
I would call that a failure of the camera (or those that configured it).
I agree with your position that if the person who owns the parked car actually receives the ticket, then of course the problem is the human review (or lack there of). The guy in the video says as much himself.
The camera is the thing that is grabbing plates from parked cars in its FoV - instead of from cars that are actually in the travel lane.
Hardly. Here's a capture from the very video you posted clearly showing the camera's FOV and focus. The photo even says "LANE 2" indicating that the system recognized the proper lane, yet the person verifying the offense chose to disregard all that data. This is not an equipment failure by any stretch.
it also says that the vehicle in LANE 2 is traveling 45 mph in a 35mph zone.
except it applied the license plate of the parked car (not in any lane) instead of the license plate of the car actually moving.
you are right that the process requires a human review - and that clearly isn't happening in this guys example.
But applying the wrong (close by) license plate to the car that was actually moving can only be described - by me at least - as a failure of the technology to get it right.
You are obviously unclear about how these systems work.
ALL the camera does is take a picture of the scene. The inductive loop sensors determine the speed and the system adds the date and time.
These are either transmitted digitally to a PERSON or, as in the systems in my area, actual film is removed from the cameras on a regular basis and the photos are sent to a PERSON.
The PERSON studies the photo, looks for a license plate number, and lays a charge on the registered owner based on what they OBSERVE in the photo.
Notice how the photo shows lane, speed, date, time, location, but NO license plate number? It is NOT using LPR, a PERSON is looking at the license plate number of the WRONG vehicle. Period.
The news article even quotes the contractor as pledging to "reinforce and train technicians in proper vehicle identification techniques", at 1:18.
so your contention is that a PERSON is reading the license plate from the picture and sending the ticket to the parked car owner?
Further - cuz I like your thinking - it was this PERSON that made the mistake and applied the speeding ticket to the parked vehicle in the picture this PERSON is reviewing - instead of the car that was actually moving and in the travel lane?
that actually makes sense to you?
Here's another story on the same guy... and the writer of this story must not know as much as you do about speed cameras either.
It seems more than slightly ridiculous to me that the camera is not capturing the plate - and that a PERSON does the plate capture visibly.
Instead, it makes more sense that the camera grabs the plate - and the PERSON verifies the infraction and the plate. THIS is what the guy is bitching about - that nobody appears to be reviewing the tickets.
If what you are saying is valid, then some PERSON would have had to make this same kind of mistake 10 or 11 times from the same location and same parked car. This seems highly unlikely.
The story even mentions that it happened before and NOLA was able to reposition the cameras and the problem went away. But then a new vendor was hired and the problem started up again.
Your lack of reading comprehension is growing wearisome.
Click that link you posted above and read a bit further than just far enough to confirm your own bias:
The situation bolsters arguments that speed camera traps aren't about safety, they're about money. The city told WWL-TV that each citation must be approved by a technician, and then by an NOPD officer, meaning two pairs of eyes repeatedly ignoring the details on the citation. New Orleans officials said they won't move the camera, but that "the contractor that handles the tickets will have its employees properly trained to manage the data it receives from the camera." Schultz captured the essence of that municipal brush-off in one sentence: "If it were in front of the mayor's house he'd take care of it."
And it's not like I have any experience with these kinds of systems myself or anything, that might give me some insight into how they work.
"Your lack of reading comprehension is growing wearisome."
said the pot to the kettle.
I am not arguing that a human (and beyond that, a human of the sworn officer type) DOESN'T have to review the ticket in order to make the fine LEGAL. I've never posited such a thing - so why do you think that this is what I am arguing?
pay attention to what I am saying, not what you are assuming.
YOU are assuming that the legality of having a sworn officer REVIEW the infraction - generated by the speed cam - means that they are the ones doing the plate capture. I think you are WRONG.
And this video below from ATS (the vendor who supplies NOLA with their red light and speed camera programs) will hopefully SHOW you that you are wrong. Go to the 1:00 mark and watch for 10 seconds
If that IS the system in use at the location being discussed then you would be correct. I fully concede that.
Judging from the layout and structure of the citations shown in the video and the very photo of the infraction that shows NO LPR data, I do not agree that it is.
The very beginning of the video the news guys says "Canal Blvd in Lakeview"
And the location list above shows 2 cameras (8th and 9th from the bottom of the left column) at Canal Blvd and French Ave (which is smack in the middle of Lakeview):
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