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Managing Access Control For 3 Locations With A Single Interface?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 13, 2018

We have client that has 3 buildings, one with 6 doors, and two remote buildings with 1 door each. The remote buildings each have their own DSL service.  Existing access control is an old DSC system.  The desire is to have a single interface to manage all three.  We have reached out to several manufactures and have yet to get a response(frustrating).  Do most modern systems have the capability to manage multiple sites as if they are one?

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SB
Steven Ballard
Oct 13, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Brivo OnAir should work well for you.  Paxton will also work for that application.  I can suggest a parts list if you need.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 14, 2018

Brivo is a subscription based?  I have seen some very positive reviews on Paxton.  I am all ears...

SB
Steven Ballard
Oct 14, 2018
IPVMU Certified

Brivo OnAir is subscription based as well as Paxton.  Brivo has stand alone panels but your customer will appreciate the subscription based services.  Isonas that was recomended is also subscription based.  The cloud or subscription based systems allow you to complete as you described without having a local server and software.

 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 13, 2018

Take a look at ICT Protege WX or GX.

 

We have GX working with multiple clients at multiple buildings. I managed to get WX working on multiple sites, but it's a little more cumbersome to achieve the desired results.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 14, 2018

I was initially looking at ICT as the "modular" equipment for access and security is a compelling approach.  I have made multiple attempts at contacting ICT with no real response, so I look at that as a warning sign.  If getting the WX version to do what we need is in fact cumbersome, then that product is basically off the list.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 14, 2018

That's really unfortunate. If you are in Canada or the USA, you can reach out to Inaxsys (http://inaxsys.com) and see if they can help you.

 

Mark McCrae, one of the owners of Inaxsys, is on this forum and should hopefully chime in if he see this.

 

Also, WX is not subscription based. The web interface is on the controller itself.

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Clint Hays
Oct 13, 2018

Use Isonas. It will be extremely easy and the entire interface is done through a web browser, so the end user can manage it from anywhere.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 14, 2018

I will take a look at Isonas.  Are you saying that the end user could actually login to a single interface and manage all 3 sites as if they were 1 or something like that?

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Clint Hays
Oct 14, 2018

Yes. Reach out to Isonas and talk to their team, but each reader-controller can connect to the cloud individually and share a database. You don't have to have the devices installed at the same physical location.

PD
Paul DiPeso
Oct 15, 2018

Feenics is a cloud-based access control solution, and is designed to run multiple locations out of one instance/headend software.  

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UE
Undisclosed End User #3
Oct 15, 2018

Unless things have significantly changed in the last year, Isonas is garbage. Currently spending a lot of time and money to shed the nightmare that is RC-03 and their IP Bridge controller. I haven't messed with their cloud solution but with as painfully unstable as the reader-controllers are, i wouldn't dare try it without an on-prem backup to wipe and reload.

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Daniel S-T
Oct 15, 2018

I think just about any system has this ability. I think the hardest part may be making sure the customer is paying for a static IP at the remote sites.

PD
Paul DiPeso
Oct 15, 2018

Actually, any of the true cloud-based systems (i.e. Brivo, BluB0x, Feenics) use IP client (an outbound port) and DNS service, so no static IP needed.  

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 15, 2018

All 3 buildings have static IP’s.  Client not interested in a subscription based service. I would think there must be a way to do this?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Oct 15, 2018

Where is your project located?  

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 15, 2018

Oregon

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #4
Oct 15, 2018

You could use the Isonas RC-04 PureAccess readers along with an on-premise software made by Blue Access called Cobalt.  they have a hosted version of Cobalt as well, but if you want an on-premise solution, this is a pretty easy system to program and use and the RC-04 readers are readily scalable for the size system you describe, especially the single door sites.

www.blueaccesstech.com

 

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Michael Miller
Oct 15, 2018

You have lots of options.   We would use Avigilon or ICT.  

 

With Avigilon you install a networked mercury controller at each site which would connect back to your ACM manager which would allow you to control all sites in one interface. 

 

If your going to use ICT this would be more of a GX solution then WX.   With GX you install a GX controller at each site and network them back to a server running the GX software. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 15, 2018

There is a WX-compatible PCB with built-in Ethernet (PRT-RDE2-PCB). It can do everything a controller can in terms of credentials, independent operation, etc. It cannot be a controller, that's the only drawback.

We managed to network a system with the WX over static IPs just fine. The problem comes in with the firewall restrictions.

The annoying part with GX is the need for a server. Otherwise, I would use GX in every install.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Oct 16, 2018

In this case would you need a single door controller and the PRT-RDE2-PCB at each of the remote locations?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #2
Oct 17, 2018

That is correct - the PRT-RDE2-PCB would need to point to the IP of the WX Controller. From there, you could wire in door expanders connected to the PRT-RDE2-PCB RS-485 bus and grow the system, as needed, on each site.

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Mendy lewis
Oct 16, 2018
Safezone24

GeoVision it’s working well for us with remote site, and probably the most affordable solution

U
Undisclosed #5
Oct 17, 2018

AMAG

Avigilon

Brivo

Genetec

Kantech

Lenel

Nedap

Open Options

Paxton

ProWatch

RS2

S2

Software House

Stanley PAC

Winpak

 

All of the above can feasibly do what you are asking, among many more that I'm forgetting or don't want to list. You're going to need to be a little bit more detailed on exactly what you're looking for. All we know right now is you want a "single interface", and you don't want a subscription model (which is why Brivo is marked off above).

 

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