End-User Educates Global Distributor That Did Not Know They Were Selling A Chinese OEM Relabeller

Hi IPVM leaders,

I was in a recent discussion with a large global distributor, and they were trying sell me a fairly good priced product, however I was able point out to them that the product they suggested was nothing but a Chinese OEM relabel, which i could buy at 1/3 the cost elsewhere, and moreover it did not fit my requirements. I knew this because of the invaluable research IPVM conducts, but I was a little surprised that this particular company did not know the difference (or maybe ignored it) between legit suppliers and Chinese "knock-off's." I suggested they look into getting an IPVM subscription so they can stay abreast of emergent issues; and my sales rep stated they would be contacting their C-suite about it.

* ***** **** ** **** *** to ******* ** ********* ** ******* the ********* ** ***** ************ **** was, *** * ***** **** ** ask *** **** ********* ** **** have *** **** ******* ******. * am ** *** **** *** **** a ****** ******* ******* *** ******** they *** "*****" *** ******* * particular *******, *** ** *** ***** hand, * **** ** ******* ** organization **** ******** ******** *********** ********.

******,

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Michael Miller

************ ******* ****** ** *** ****?

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Undisclosed End User #1

*** **** * ********** *** ********. "selling ****** ** *** ****"

*** * **** * *** ***** above ... *** **** **** ** continue ** **, ***** .... * was ******** * **** ******* **** of ******, ** ******** ********* * fine ******* *******, *** * ********** it **** **** ******** ** * cheap ******* *******. * ******* **** out, *** **** *********** **** **** are ***** ** **** **** **. they ********* * ******* **** * brand ** ******* ******* ***** *** based ** **** *** ***** *****, but ********** **** ******* ** *** an "********" ****** ******* **** **** not ***** ** **** *** **** not **** *** *******.

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Michael Miller

In reply to Undisclosed End User #1

*** ******* *** ** ** ***-**** purchasing ******** **** ************. **** ** some *******:******* *** **** ***** ********

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Undisclosed #4

IPVMU Certified

*#*:**** ****! * *********** ** ****** me ********** *********** ***** **** ****** product, *** **** ******* ******** ****** their ******* *** *** ******** , and **** **** **** ***** ***** of ****. ******* *** ******* ******?!?!

M.M.: ** ***’** ****** ***’** ****** ******, eh?

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Michael Miller

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*** ****** ** ********* *** ***** but ***** **** ***** *** *** issues ****. ***** ** ** **** more *********** ** *** ************ ******* was *******?

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John Honovich

IPVM

** *** *** *** ** *******. I ***** **** *** *** **** directly.

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Undisclosed #4

IPVMU Certified

*** ****** ** ********* *** ***** but ***** **** ***** *** *** issues ****. ***** ** ** **** more *********** ** *** ************ ******* was *******?

***** *** ** *** **:

* ***** **** ** **** *** to ******* ************* ******* *** ********* ** ***** organization **** ***...

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

... ***'* *** * **** ** buy * $*,*** *****-***** ***% **** IN ***. ****** *** ****** ** without * ******* ******* ******** ** far ** * ****. * *** no **********/****** ***** ********* ***** *** COVID ******* ********* ***********, *** ******* software ******* ** ******* ** ************ solely *** ********* ** ** ****** hardware *************.

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John Honovich

IPVM

********* **** ******* *********** ********* ****** Tested, ** *******, ** ********, ~$,****

********** ******* ******, **** ** *** ***, $*,***

** ** *****, * ***** *** overwhelming ****** ** ********* *** ***** low-res ********** ***** *******.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

... *´** ******* ********** **** *********** cameras ** ****** ******* ******* ** other ***. ***** ************* ** ***** to **** *************** *****/*****, *** * can **** ***: ** *** **** to ****** *** ***** ** *** cameras,for ********** *** ******** *.*./*.*. ***** you ***** **** *** ******** **** the ******* ********* ********. * ****** wish * ***** ****** *** * well ********, **** ** *** *** friendly ******* ** *********** ** ******* mobile *** ** ** **** ***** enrollments, ******* ******* ** *** ****** chinese ******** ***** ** **** ** bugs *** ******.

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Jeremiah Main

IPVMU Certified

* ********** *** **** **** ** SPLAN ******* ********** ********** ** *** access ******* ** ****** ** ********* work **** ** ******** *** ****** badges **** ***** ********* * ******* temperature ****. ** ******* ******** ********.

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Undisclosed Integrator #5

... ******* ****/****** **** *********-*******-********* ********* (different **** ***'* *** *********-******* ******** I've **** *** *******, ** ****** software *** **** ******) ***: ******, frequent *** ********** ******* ******* ***** Windows ** **, ************* ******, **** bad ******** ************ **** **** ***** that ***** **** ******* ********** **** inside **** ***-*****, *** *** ***** was: ** ********* *** ********** **** of ** ******* ******* ** ******** (which ****** ** ****** **** *** previous *********** *******) *************** ** ****** *** * ** 6 ********* ********* ***** ***-***** !! no *******. ** ***** **** *** more ****** *** ****** *******-****** -****** smaller ****- *** ****** ****** ********** from ***** *********. *** ******* *** bundling *** **** ** **** ******** modified ******* ** *** **** ***/***/******** software ** ** ******* ***** **** small **** **** **********, * *****, in ****** ****** ***** ******** *** neglecting ** *** *******-******** ** * mere ************.

******* ***** *´** ******* ** *** user *********. (* **** **** ** part: "********" **** ********* ** * very ********** ***** ** ***** --**** may ** ******-**** ******** *** ** may *** **** ** *** ****** friendliness *** *** ** * ****-- but **** * **** **** *** software ********** ***** *** ***** * lot ** **** ** **-******** *** end **** *** ** *** ** via ******** ***** ** ******** ******** the ** *** ******* ********, **** qualifies ** ***-****/*** ****** ****-******** *** the ***-****.

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John Honovich

IPVM

#*, ******, ***** *******! * ******* you ********, ***** ** ****.

** ********** ** **** ********** ** distributors *** ********* **** ***** ** what **** ******* *** **** *********** they *** ***** (** *********). *******, these '***** ****** ************' *** **** hundreds ** ********* ** ********* *** are ******* **** ** *** **** by ***** ********** ***** **** **** relabel. *'** *** **** ************* ***** I ********** ****** ***** ***** **** things *** **** **** *** ******** on ***** *****. ** ************** ** this ** **** ** *** ***** told *** ***** **** **** ***, they ***** ** *** **** *********** recommending **.

*** ****, *** *** (*************) *** alone, *** ********* ************ ** *** industry ** **** *****, ********* *** powerful ***** ** ***** *********, ** a ********.*** *******:

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Undisclosed End User #1

In reply to John Honovich

** ****, #* ****,

**** *** ******** **** ***** ***. Will ***** ***** ********. * ******'* be **** * ******, *** * feel ** ***** *** ****** ****** chain ************.

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John Honovich

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IPVM

* ******* *** *****. ****** *** me **** ** *** ******** ** email ** ** ****@****.***

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Undisclosed Distributor #2

**** ****, ***** ****

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Undisclosed Integrator #3

"* ** ** *** **** *** felt * ****** ******* ******* *** supplier **** *** "*****" *** ******* a ********** *******"

** ****'** *****, **** **** **** are *** *** **** **. *** are ********* ** ***** **. ** need ** **** ******* ***** **. Good *** 👍.

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Undisclosed End User #1

•May 10, 2021

** *** *******. ** *** ****** temperature ******** ** * ******** ******, not ********** **** *** **** ** ACS, ** ** *********** *** ******** (sorry ***), **** ** * "***-***" type ** ********. **** ******* *** device **** ********* (**** ***** ****) *** * ********** **** ** was * *******. **** *****, **** mentioned (**** ** - ********** **** ** *** **** *****, a ******* *** * **** *******, so * **** **** ** ******* a ********* ****** *** **** **** need ** ***** ****.

**** ******* **** *** ********* ****** is **** ** **% ** *** teams *** **** **** ** ***** Hopkins ... *** ** **** ******** pointed *** "*** ****, *** *** and ***** ************* ********* ** *** a *** ** ****** ** ***** but *** **** ** **** ******** depended ** **** **** ** ** ongoing *****" - * **** ** checking **** * ******* * **** in *** *** ******** ********** **** truth ***** ** ** ****, ** any. ** * **** **** *** 75% ***** ** *****, * **** be **** ** **** ******* (*** you ***).

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Brad Canham

** *** * ****, **'** *** of *** **** *** ************* ****** these ******* ** *******. ** ***** a **** ** **** ** *** USA **** ********?

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John Honovich

IPVM

In reply to Brad Canham

**, *** ** *** ****** *** less ****** *** **** ********. ****, what *** *** ****** *** ******** in **** ********?

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Brad Canham

In reply to John Honovich

** ** ***********. ** ****** **'** seeing **** ** ***** *********************** ***, ********** ********* ******** *********** where ***** *** ********** ********** ******** (airports, ****** *** **** ***...). ***, in *******, ** **** **** ** uptick ** ***** ************ **** ******* deployments. ****** **** ** *** ******* nursing ********** ** ** ****** ***** there *** **** ********* ************ (******** for *******) ** ***** *** **** increasing *** **. ** *** ****, we're ********** *********** **** ***** **** scanners ** * *******-***** ******** **** no ****/*********** ***** *** *********. * think, ******* *** ******* ***** ** the ********, *** ***** ***** ****** "hey **** ** * **** **** scan" ******* ** ******* ******* *** resonating **** *** *****. * ****** add, **** *************, * **** ** *** ********* clients *** ************ ***...** *** ***** end, "** *** **** **** **** scanning ** *** *** **** **** faking **?" ** ****'** **** **** faking ** **'** *** **********.

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John Honovich