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IP Camera With HDMI Video Out?

UD
Undisclosed Distributor #1
Oct 24, 2017

Does this exist? This customer wants to use the camera to record to an NVR, and video out to a TV for live view at 60fps.

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Michael Miller
Oct 24, 2017
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BP
Bas Poiesz
Oct 24, 2017

Yes it does, the DS-2CD2125FWD-IM had a HDMI out directly on the camera

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Robert Shih
Oct 24, 2017
Independent

Well, since we're bringing up Hik products, anything you can do: IPC-HF8232F-HDMI

Edit: To the guy who voted me "funny", what can I say? I'm petty sometimes! :P

Btw, mine actually outputs @ 60fps. The Hik model, not so much.

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Bas Poiesz
Oct 24, 2017

UD1 asked for a camera with HDMI out. I just answered it, same as Mr Miller with the Axis model and you with the Dahua model.

Answering the question, nothing more nothing less.

Your strong reaction to the fact that it is a Hik product is funny. I didnt vote yet but I see the irony in it

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Robert Shih
Oct 24, 2017
Independent

Does this exist? This customer wants to use the camera to record to an NVR, and video out to a TV for live view at 60fps.

Bringing up Dahua to counter the Hik pick was being petty and contrarian for the sake of entertainment.

Saying you didn't specify the right product for what UD1 was asking for was more a statement of fact.

U
Undisclosed #3
Oct 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

Btw, mine actually outputs @ 60fps.

Out the HDMI?

So it’s not one of those typical Dahua Preview Outs to be used with spot monitors to check FOV, right?

You know the kind that disable all the intelligent functions during preview use?  Or disable the preview output if you try to use them?

 

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Robert Shih
Oct 25, 2017
Independent

This is a proper spot-out. 60fps @ 3MP is already part of the standard Ultra series product line.

U
Undisclosed #3
Oct 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

This is a proper spot-out.

Proper meaning what exactly?  Certainly a spot doesn’t need to be 60fps.

Again, does it’s use preclude the use of any other camera functions?  

Yes or No?

60 fps @ 3MP is already part of the standard Ultra series product line.

Even on a 2MP camera, like the one you linked to?

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Robert Shih
Oct 25, 2017
Independent

The standard output of the camera can reach 60fps without limiting any of the camera's other functions. The only thing I can imagine it not doing is WDR or Intelligent Scene and 60fps at the same time. Otherwise, IVS features are not disabled by 60fps functionality.

We have the IPC-HFW8331E-Z5 in stock to play with and this is what we're basing everything on.

The 2MP box camera with the HDMI output should be similar or better cause it's using an upgraded chipset.

U
Undisclosed #3
Oct 25, 2017
IPVMU Certified

The standard output of the camera can reach 60fps without limiting any of the camera's other functions.

Yes, the standard output of the camera.  But we are talking about the preview output (as Dahua refers to it).  Does the TV that you connect it to say 1080/60p? That’s the test.

Btw, the manual for the camera you linked to says that just using the preview output limits the use of intelligent functions.  It doesn’t mention in that section anything about frame rate, though that may additionally be a factor, which makes it only prudent to either see the HDMI refresh rate in writing or test it with a TV.  Can you point to either?

 

UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
Oct 24, 2017

Wasnt Sanyo the first to put an HDMI output onto an IP Camera?  

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Carl Bracken
Oct 24, 2017

Not sure if Sanyo was first but the VCC-HD4000 included a full size HDMI which was unique at the time. Image looked great on local live view monitor applications old history now...

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Luis Carmona
Oct 25, 2017
Geutebruck USA • IPVMU Certified

This seems to be common in machine vision cameras. I know of one brand, SenTech. I've talked to their sales people before. Nice folks.

http://www.sentechamerica.com/En/Cameras/HighDefinition?Tab=2

 

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Craig Mc Cluskey
Oct 25, 2017

Does the NVR have a video out connection? If so, can he use that and "ordinary" cameras for the surveillance?

UD
Undisclosed Distributor #1
Oct 25, 2017

I tried to convince him to use the HDMI connection from his NVR. He is pretty set on a video out from his camera. He wants to record a basketball game and have security the rest of the time...

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Carl Bracken
Oct 25, 2017

Yesterday morning I gave a camera demo for a local specialty manufacturer in town one of the cameras I selected for the effort was the Axis V5915 PTZ besides a feature set typical of today's PTZ cameras this unit also has a full size HDMI jack and SDI ports. A few years ago we put a system together for a local community college athletic department to capture basketball games and practice sessions. We used a Bosch PTZ at the time (had to do with keyboard support) general recording of the RTSP stream is done on a 3xLogic NVR which works fine for most except the broadcast / AV guys. If I had to do it over I would use the Axis camera and record the RTSP on a security oriented NVR and give the SDI signal to the AV techs.

Not sure if this helps but just wanted to share some recent observations with a nice camera with HDMI and other outputs...

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UD
Undisclosed Distributor #1
Oct 26, 2017

Thanks for the info Carl! I like this solution.

UD
Undisclosed Distributor #1
Oct 25, 2017

I wonder if this camera will work with Video Insight VMS? It has everything I need.

https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-camerasptz/cat-ptzhighdefinition/product-SRG360SHE/ (Sony SRG360SHE)

Update: They say they need to test it first. Doesn't appear to be ONVIF compliant. It just says it streams RTSP.

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Marc Pichaud
Oct 25, 2017

The real point is that HDMI out port brings the ability to maintenance companies to setup focals and focus like they did before with analog camera... without any credentials and any complex Onvif handheld POE monitors

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #4
Oct 25, 2017

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