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If You Call It Facial Recognition It Sets A High Expectation Of Accuracy

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jan 03, 2024

Even from a standpoint of a manufacturer selling facial rec I think it is important to have a clear distinction between products and processes based on accuracy. If you call it Facial Recognition it sets a high expectation of accuracy, Face Comparison, with a weighted confidence score, more accurately describes the function. Ceiling mounted cameras are rarely mounted such that they provide an ideal image for facial rec anyway and the results of the match should be ranked with a confidence score to avoid the same problems we have with eye witness accounts. Furthermore it is up to the courts to define what they consider to be biometric data and provide clearer guidelines on what is considered reasonable or acceptable within the law. Even companies knowingly using facial rec are getting burned by not understanding the law.

NOTICE: This comment was moved from an existing discussion: Verkada Officially Admits Its Facial Recognition Is Facial Recognition

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JH
John Honovich
Jan 03, 2024
IPVM

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KF
Katie Ferry
Jan 03, 2024
IPVMU Certified

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U
Undisclosed #2
Jan 04, 2024

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
Jan 04, 2024

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U
Undisclosed #2
Jan 04, 2024

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Taylor May
Jan 04, 2024
SVIP

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UE
Undisclosed End User #4
Jan 05, 2024

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** *** ************ **** *** *** Facial ***********, *** ****** ************.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jan 05, 2024

***** ***, ****'* *** ***** *********** that * *** *********. **** *** under *** ******** ** ****** *********** software *** ** ******** *** ************ are ****** ***** ** ********. ****** surveillance ** *** *** ** ****** helpful ** ******* *** ****** ****** not ** ******* ** ***** ******** of ***** ********. ** ****** ** treated **** **** ******* ********* ***** side **** ********. ** *** ***** hand * ****** *********** ********* ************** device **** ** ** ****** ******* application ** ***** ** ** **** accurate ** ****** ** *********. ** Johny ********** ******* *** ** ***** in *** ******** ****** **** * cctv ****** ******** ** **** ******* accessing *** **** **** **** * biometric ****** ******* ****** ****** ** treated ** *** **** ********* ****** of ********. ****** ********* **** *** handling ** ********* **** *** ***** to **** ** ****** ** ***** is * ***** *********** ******* *** two *** *** ******** ** ******* as **** *** *** **** ****** the **********.

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