John, thanks for sharing! Any idea about price?
WiFi consumer / SMB NVRs are pretty rare so that's a plus. Of course, with all things wireless, range is a key concern and you still need power so...
The main thing I'd compare / consider is why that vs a Hikvision NVR with embedded PoE switch?
You'd wanna make extra sure all the default credentials are changed on that sucker. Too easy for a total newbie to drive around with a wireless head-end looking to connect....
We (Hikvision) should have them available before the end of May.
@Rukmini- The cameras auto detect/connect. When the user changes the credentials on the NVR, the settings are pushed to the cameras as well. Camera options are Indoor Cube and Indoro/Outdoor Comapct IR dome - in 1.3MP and 3Mp with fixed lens options.
Chesapeake & Midlantic | 05/02/14 03:38pm
I once had a customer wire a QNAP NVR into a wireless access point. He must have been satisfied, because he didn't return the stuff. This is probably the same idea in a single device.
I just hope the box uses external, not internal, antennae, so you can upgrade to a directional antenna if necessary.
Great solution for a quick residential install. We've been looking for this for a couple of years now.
Pro Focus LLC | 05/04/14 04:39pm
Downsides to wireless cameras:
1) POWER - Either have to run power wire to the camera or settle for locations where power is already available. Battery power just isn't a viable option yet. Solar might be fine if you want daytime only.
2) RANGE - Depending on the structure, you may have less than 50' of range. Best case is 300' in a near perfect scenario.
3) INTERFERENCE - If it uses common bands of spectrum, it is going to run the risk of interference from other devices. If you use a less common, proprietary band, then you run the risk of nobody adopting your standard.
4) EXPLOITS - It is much easier to exploit or tamper with a wireless system. Hard wired systems are always going to be more secure and harder to tamper with. Nothing is perfect, but why make it easy for tampering. It's easy to jam the common bands of wireless and that would allow an intruder to evade detection or identification.
To follow up on the WiFi supported, it is 802.11b/g/n 2.4Ghz. We would caution that the typical precautions regarding 802.11 apply in terms of distance limitations, obstructions, etc.
Pro Focus LLC | 05/05/14 03:09pm
Can the homeowners afford to keep calling for service on an unreliable system? Should the integrator eat these costs? I don't think running some CAT5e cable is really that expensive for just a few cameras. I'm sure these Wireless cams will cost more than the wired equivalent? If you end up needing power outlets added in order to get the shot you want, an electrician will probably cost as much, or more than, the integrator simply running CAT5e.
I dont see the viability of this product for people that want a reliable system.
Jon- once installed and operational, overcoming any issues such as power outlets and any other cost of install, why are you deeming this system unreliable?
IPVMU Certified | 05/16/14 08:52pm
Quick update, I have had a wifi camera from hikvision for a few days, seems to work well and have had no problems so far other than the SD card not recording. This seems to be a common problem with many others cameras I have tried.
Just got the Wifi NVR in, looks pretty solid and is working well so far. There is an external antenna, I am going to see if I can find a high gain antenna for it and see how well it will work in our office building. We have a brick building with a lot of steel and interference as we are next to the airport. If it is successful here I will be impressed, Bosch often tests their new wireless intrusion products here because of our location.
The discovery protocol is Hikvision's SADP
Pro Focus LLC | 05/19/14 05:27pm
John, thanks for posting that info. Can you give us some background on your building? Such as the distance from the DVR to camera and the type of construction if the walls between them? Also, do you by chance know the saturation of 802.11/2.4GHz in your building? I would be glad to admit my reluctance to the wifi solution was wrong if this is a viable solution.
IPVMU Certified | 05/19/14 07:33pm
Current distance from NVR to camera is about 40 feet, I don’t know if this is the maximum distance, it’s just where I have it setup for now. We rent most of our two buildings to other businesses so there are around 6 2.4GHz wireless networks. Building exterior is brick and interior walls have wire mesh behind all of the drywall and above the ceiling tiles. We are right next to an International Airport and Military Base. Like I said before Bosch tests their wireless intrusion transmitters and receivers here from time to time as we are in a prime location for testing.
I am still not sold on this product myself; I have never deployed a wifi camera system before and have never had good luck with wireless equipment in our security systems. So far I am impressed with it and do think it could be a viable option for some situations. I would like to see what kind of range I can get out of it with a couple of yagi antennas and see how it preforms. Back 20 years ago my dad made a living selling ultra long-range wireless video equipment to the government so wireless stuff always interests me.
Following my previous question:
- Is there a review on this NVR ? and it's configuration ?
- Is it closed to Hikvision or can I install other products ? (Need small wide angle camera)
- Can I run script on it ? For instance to send thumbnails to my central server
- Can other mobile device connect to it ? Does it work like a bridge ? Is there logging features ?
Indeed my usecase is to setup 5 cameras in a place for 2 weeks. Then be able to retrieve motion "moments". Flir FX seems also interesting.