They have a 20' x 30' booth:
I believe they were at ASIS last year as well.
Recall the Cisco Reboots Video Surveillance initiative.
The problem is nobody respects or fears Cisco's video surveillance offering, after so many years of comic failing. That does not mean they can't succeed (or at least get better) but they have an uphill battle ahead of them.
IPVMU Certified | 01/30/14 11:26pm
We have members here that won't even darken the booth's carpet for less than a $20 meal voucher.
I can honestly tell you that if Cisco decides to make full hearted run into this business it would have a huge impact. Having worked for a large Cisco partner for many years I have seen the machine in action and it is impressive! They know the networking side and they have all of the relationships with all of the decision makers and have for decades.
The ability of their demand generation and sales force to create, discover and close large scale projects is phenominal. All it would take is for them to aquire a top tier IP camera manufacturer, a top 5 VMS and a high end access provider and it would be game over. They did it with VOIP and they could do it with Physical Security and it would be a drop in the bucket for them. They spend over $6 Billion a year on R&D, just think what could be developed with a 10th of that budget in our industry.
I just don't think that their heart is in it..yet.
"it is 10 times harder to get a network firm to understand access and video"
Not to digress but... Everyone is different, and there are of course exceptions in both directions, but generally speaking this has not been what I have experienced. Maybe my experience was unique though. Either way it just depends on the quality (or lack) of the people. Good people on either side can pick things up easy enough. Not so good people on either side, many times aren't really even that good at their primary. Always exceptions though; This is just my humble opinion and experience.
IPVMU Certified | 01/31/14 02:30pm
First off this post is assuming the product is decent. As an end user I would LOVE it if Cisco got their act together and started hitting up the IT guys on the CCTV front. IT has actual money and we do not. Not only that, but if they bought the product they would be “responsible” for it and would jump on any issues PDQ.
If Cisco stared pushing it hard and got the IT guys to buy in and start slapping up cameras everywhere I would save a substantial amount of cash a year that could go towards other issues. Also, not having to piecemeal projects one or two cameras at a time when I can afford it would be a nice change.
Doesn’t matter though since Google will own everything three or four years from now…….
They just finished putting hundreds of Cisco cameras in some hospitals here, and I have been helping the security staff figure out how to use the CISCO VMS 7.xx. It seems to run smoothly, I don't have much opportunity to play with other VMS systems so I don't have a good comparative reference.
Yes, the IT guys aren't really hook and ladder types, which is good for me so far :)!
Cisco made 3 (4? 5?) acquisitions before their VPN solution worked. They rebuilt the PIX from the bucket of PC bolts it was at time of acquisition into a whole product today. If indeed Cisco is "only" on their first re-tread of their physical security acquisition then you gotta give the beast some time before you start assuming you know what it's doing. Yeah, that means that John's Avigilon acquisition comment is not in fact crazy, in my opinion.
Cisco's strength in this area is bandwith management and security. If you want to build a large shared network with video and other services in the same network. Then multicast and admission control (RSVP) for bandwith management is good to have, further you need to manage the network security with a lot of cameras places evereywhere.
The only question is, will this be needed? The alternative solution is separate video networks and an abundance of network capacity and at this time it seams to be cheaper. I dont know if Cisco will put their heart into it until this change, but I do believe that they think it will... someday.
We could all spend hours talking about Cisco's clunky and arrogant entrance into IP Video. I could tell you some stories....
That said, the new Version 7 works. I have personally designed, installed, and trained on the new platform. My team has resurrected Version 6 systems and restored confidence to end users that were in complete despair over the failed promises from prior integrators and AMs.
It's not perfect, but each new release fixes problems and adds features. For example, I'm viewing cameras from our internal demo system on my Android tablet right now. That's not a huge leap for most VMS platforms, but for those that have been through what we have it's a big deal.
A working product, coupled with the Cisco brand, means that they are a major player. IT directors run security now and they'll continue to insist upon Cisco Physec, but now they'll have a working product with few compromises.
IPVMU Certified | 02/03/14 03:32pm
I have not seen a Cisco surveillance system in the wild, only a sporadic number of physical access control systems. In my region, they never had a strong push or pusher in physec.
I say that to qualify this question: Is the formative opinion that Cisco's previous platforms were junk a little-known 'early adopter' type of opinion, or do most end users feel this way as well?
Most of the end users in my area would have no idea "Cisco does video" and would not be negatively biased to the brand if pitched it.
I, for one, would never consider a Cisco surveillance system. In 2006, at the invitation of Pete Jankowski, I visited Cisco's Carlsbad California research center (now closed?) to get a demo of the SyPixx system. Even in their optimal environment, the system obviously underperformed and lacked many features that other systems had even back then.
When I expressed my negative opinions at the lack of features and poor GUI, the Cisco "suits" who surrounded me kept saying, in essence, "But we're Cisco", as if that mattered. That attitude was a major turnoff for me and I walked away shaking my head.
In my vertical, it is extremely rare for video to ride on the corporate domain so I don't have to deal with our IT department's biases.