Can Integrators Compete For Techs Quitting To Earn $170k/Year UPS Driver Salaries?

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Brian Rhodes
•Aug 31, 2023
IPVMU Certified

I talked with a North Texas integrator who lamented he is losing an experienced tech who is becoming a UPS Driver.

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**********, **** **** *** ** ******** already, *** ******* ** ******* **** year, *** **** ******* ** **** early ** *** **** **** *** Drivers ****** * ******** **** ***** pay ** ******* ** ~$***,*** *** year.

********** ***** ********** *** ***** ** ******** ** becoming * *** ******:

****** ****** ******* *** ****** * hot ******** ***** *** ***** **** month ******* $** ******* ** *** money **** * ****-**** ********.

****** **** ***** ****** *** * more **** ** ******* ******** ** searches **** “***” ** “****** ****** Service” ** *** *** ***** *** week ***** *** **** ************, ********* to **** ****** **** ********* ****.

*** ***** ****** **** ***** * UPS ****** ****** *** ** **** and ***** ***** *** ****** ** the ******** ****** *** **********, ** noted **:*** *** ********* ***** * *** Strike? *** *** **.

** *** ** $**** /**** ** concerned, **** ***** *** *** '**** home' ****** ** ***** (~$**.**/** ** $92,000/year) *** *** ****-********** $**** ****** includes **********/*******, *** ********** ********.

**** *** ****** ******** *** *** contract ********* ********** ** * $*.**/** pay ***** ** ****-**** *** **** the *** ********:

*** **** ** **** ****** ** would **** '* $****/ **** *** to ******* *** *** ***'. *********** the ******* *** ********** ********.

**********, ******* ***** ** ********* *** many *********** ******* (***:***** ** *** **** *****?***********: ***** **** ** ****** *** Video, **** ****** *****), *** **** $**** ***** ******** to *** ******* **** ** **** tougher?

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John Honovich
•Aug 31, 2023
IPVM

* ***** * *** ******** ** posting **** * *** ***** *** but ******* ** ***** ** *** speculative.

** *** ****, ***** **** * bunch ** **** ****** *********** ***** it - *.*.*****://*******.**/*****, ***** * **** *** ******** ironic ***** *** ******** *** *** rooms, ***., **** **** ****** ** popular.

* ***** *** ******* ** **** there *** **** ** **** **** for *** ******* *** *'* **** a **** ******** ********** ***** **** more ************ ********* *** **** * delivery *** (**** * ****-****** ***) too ******, ********** ***** **** ******** technicians *** **** *-*******.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #1
•Aug 31, 2023

*** * ******* **** * ******** who *** ******* *** **** *** because ** ***'* **** **** ******* even ***** ******* *** ******** ****** from $** ** **** ** $** an ****.

* ****** *** ** ***** *** showed *** **** ****** ** ****** cashiers (*****, "***** *********") ** *** area *** $**.** ** ****, *** easier **** *** **** ******** *****.

** ***'** ******* ***** ****** *********** techs ** ***, ***'** ******** ***** term. *** ****** ** ******** **** term, *** ***** ***** ****** *** hires **** **** ********** ** ******** to ******* ** ****** ** ********'*.

***** ********** ****** **** * **** pipeline. ***** ********** ****** **** * plan *** ****** ****** *** *** street *** ******** **** *** ******* them **** *********** ***** ** * couple ** ***** **** ***. * lot ** *********** ***** *** ** their ******* *** *******. ** ****** have * *** ** *********** ***** in ***** ******** ***, *** ********* along *** ***, ********* ****** ***** hiring *** ****** *** ******** ****, so **** ****** ********** ***** **.

** *** ****'* ****** *** ******** kids ** ***** ***** *** ********, you *** ***** ** **** * serious ******* ** ***** *** ** fifteen ***** **** ***, **** *********** techs ***** ******** **** ** ******** without **** ******* ***** ********* ***** to * ******* **********.

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #2
•Aug 31, 2023

* **** * ****** ****** *** started * ************ ******** ** ****. He ******* *** ****** $*.** ** hour **** ($**.** ** ** ** 2023 *******).

** **** ** *** ***** ****** $9.00 ** **** **** ($**.** ** 2023 *******) *** ** **** **** he ******* ****** *** ***** ** was ***** ****** $*.** ** ****, cash.

** *** *** ***** **** * heard *** ******: "****** ***** ** work *******," *** * ******** ********: "No, ****** ***** ** **** *** THAT."

* **** *** ***** *** ** they **** **** *'* ****** **** from ***** ** **** ** * technician ** * ******** **********.

*. ***** *** **** ** ****** mobility (*** ***** ** **** **** a ****** **** ********)

*. **** ******** ** ******** ** either ** *** *** ******** ** to * **** ****** *****. (** your ***** ***'* **** *** **** sales *** ****'* *********, ***'** * decade ****** ** ** ****)

*. **** ******** **** ** ***** environments.

* ******* **** ** **** ** short ******* *********** ****** ** ******** their ******* ** ** ******** **** is ******* ****** **** ****. (**** has **** ** ******** ** *********** being ******** ** ************* *********** **** end *****).

******: **** ******* *** **** ***** to *** *** **********:***** *** ****** **** **** **** Working ** * ******** ********** **********?

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Undisclosed Manufacturer #3
•Aug 31, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #2

* **** *** ***** *** ** they **** **** *'* ****** **** from ***** ** **** ** * technician ** * ******** **********.

**, ******* **** *** *****, *** would ***** **** ** **** ** a ********** ** * ******** ********** (for ******** ***, ** ****** ********, poor ********, *** **** ******** ****) or *** *** ****** **** ***** can't **** ** * ********** ** a ******** **********?

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U
Undisclosed #4
•Aug 31, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Manufacturer #3

****** *****. *** ***** ****'* ***** to ** - *** ** **% of *****, ***** ** ******* *******'* be - ******** ***********.

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James Mifsud
•Aug 31, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed #4

****’* * *** *********, ** ** home ***** **.*% ** *********** *** women

***** *** ******-******** ******* ** ****** tradies ** ***

***** ** ***** * **** *** to **, *** ******* ** * security ********** ** *** ****** ***** be ** ******* ****** *** ******.

** ** ********** *** ****** ** investing ** *** ****** ****** ** our ***** ********** ** ***** ******.

******* ***** ** **** *** **** of *** ****, ************* ***** ********, networking, *****, *** ***** ***** ***** services ** *********.

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U
Undisclosed #4
•Aug 31, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

************* ***** ********, **********, *****, *** other ***** ***** ******** ** *********.

****'* * ********** ********* **** ******** to * ***** ******/************ ****, ***** is ******* **** **#* *********:

*. **** ******** **** ** ***** environments.

****** ******** ***** *** *** ****** for *** **** ******** ** *****. Sure, **** ***** *** **** *** suited *** ****, **** ***. *** there's ***** *** **** ***** ******* of ******* ** ***** ********** **** men.

*** ***** ***** *** *********? ** course, ****** ***** ** **** - at ***** ** *** ***** **** gender ***** *** ****** *** ***********.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
•Sep 07, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #4

****** ******** ***** *** *** ****** for *** **** ******** ** *****.

*'** *** **** *** ***.

* ******** ******* ** ****** *** most **** ****** ******. *** ***** of *********** ******** ** * ******** install ** ** ***** **** *** level **** ****** ***** ******** **** a ***** ****** ** *** *********. This ***'* ** ***** *****. **'* screwing * *** ** * ******* or ******** * ****** ** * wall. *** ******** ***** ****** ** hand (******** * **** * ***** of ****** ***'* ** ****** ** this **** ******). **** ** *** aforementioned ********** *** *** ********* ****** for ****** ** **** * **** in ***** **********.

*** ****** *** ***'* *** ***** in ***** ***** ** ******* ** commentary **** ****.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 07, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6

*** ****** *** ***'* *** ***** in ***** ***** ** ******* ** commentary **** ****.

***’* ***** ****, ** ***** *** Planck

“***** **** *** ******* ** ********** its ********* *** ****** **** *** the *****, *** ****** ******* *** opponents ********** *** *** * *** generation ***** ** **** ** ******** with **”

**’* * ****** ** **** ****** these ********* ***** *** ********.

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Undisclosed #4
•Sep 07, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed Integrator #6

******** *** ***** **. ** *** want ** ***** *** **** ** a "******** **********" ** ********* *** last ****** ****** ** *** ****** housing, **** ****, ****** *** ** it.

** **** - ** *** *** vast ******** ** - *********, ***** are **** ******* *****, ********** *******, blasting ***** ******* ***** ** ********, and ********* ********** *** **** ******** tasks **** *** ************** *** ** portray.

**** * ****, *** ******** ******* *****'* ***** ****'* ********** (** mentally) ****** *** ***** *****, **** less ***** *** *** ********* **** physically ***** ** * **********. **'* simple ****; **** ******* ** ** force ** ******.

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Spencer Cayer
•Sep 07, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #4

* **** ** ********; ****** ****** in *** ********/**** *** ********** ******, for **, *** ******** ******** ** the ***** ********** *********.

*** **** ** * ***** ***** could ** **** ***, * ******* they ***** ***** ******* ** *** amount ** ******** ******** *** ********* to ****** **** ** ********.

*** ******** ******** *** *** *** voltage ******** ** ******* *** * PR *******. * ***** **** ** see **** ***** ******* ******* *** voltage *********** **** *********** ****** ** AV/Security.

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James Mifsud
•Sep 07, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Undisclosed #4

** ******

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U
Undisclosed #4
•Sep 07, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

*'* ****** ******* **** *** *** (I'm **). **'* ********* *** **** you ****** **** ** ***** * narrative ** ** ****, ** ****** how ********** ** **.

***** ***'* **** ** ***** ******* fields **** ******* ****'** **** **** not **. ** *** ******* ** do **** ****** ********* *** *********.

********* ***'* **** ** **** ***** (who *** *** **** ** ******* as ***) **** ******* ****'** *****.

***** *** **** **** **** *** to ******** *** **** ******** ** work ** *** **** ****, *** capitalist ********* **** ** ******** ** hiring **** ** ******** *** *******.

**'* ** ********* ******. **** *** continuing ** ******** ******** ** **** kind ** *******.

*** - **** ** **** ** to *** **********'***** * ***** ** * ****. Of ******, *** ******* *** ********* person ****** ** ******** ********** ** gender. **** ** *** ** ****** the ********** ********** ***** **** * large ********** ** ***** *** ******* and ********* ** ** ******** *****.

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #6
•Sep 08, 2023
In reply to Undisclosed #4

**** ** *** ** ****** *** completely ********** ***** **** * ***** percentage ** ***** *** ******* *** qualified ** ** ******** *****.

*** **'* *** * ********** *****?

** ************* - * ***** ********** of *** *** ********* *** *********** to ** * ******** **** ***** you ******* ** *******.

**'* ********** *** * ****** ******** issue. **** ******* ******** ** ******** a **** **** ** * ******** slab, ****'* ***** *** * **** which * *** ****** ******'* ******* comfortably. *** ****'* ***** * ****** screw ******. ****'* **** ******* *** for (*** ****** ******)

***'** ****** * ******** **** ***** like ****'** ***** ** ****** ** the **** ** ******.

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Sean Nelson
•Aug 31, 2023
Nelly's Security

**** *** **** ** ******* ***** losing *** ** *******. * *** someone ****** **** ** ** ********** facebook ***** *** **** **** ******* how ***** **** *** **** ****** them $**/** ** ********* **** ****IPVM Image

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Brian Rhodes
•Aug 31, 2023
IPVMU Certified
In reply to Sean Nelson

*'* ******* **** *** ****** *** has ***** ***** ** *** *****-***** gas ******* ***** ***-**'*:

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James Mifsud
•Aug 31, 2023
Atlas Technologies Australia
In reply to Brian Rhodes

** ******* **** ***** ** *********** in ** *******, ****** *******.

** *** **** ***** **** *** at *** **** ***** *** *******?

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Brian Rhodes
•Sep 01, 2023
IPVMU Certified
In reply to James Mifsud

** *** **** ***** **** *** at *** **** ***** *** *******?

**** *** **** ***** *** **** a ****-**** *********. *********, ** ****'* restricted **** ***:

*******

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UM
Undisclosed Manufacturer #7
•Sep 07, 2023
In reply to James Mifsud

***. ****'* *** ***** *** ***+ pumps *** *** **** ***. **'* a ***** *********.

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Robert Shih
•Sep 07, 2023
Independent
In reply to Brian Rhodes

** ** * **** **** *****

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #5
•Sep 01, 2023

*** ****? ***.

**** ****? ********. ** ****** **** mentioned, ***** *** *********** ** *** industry *** *** ********* **** ******* stores *** **** **** ****** *** employees (*** *******). **** *** ******* who ** ********* ** *** **** the ****** - *** **** ** low ****/******** **** ***** ***** ***** pays **** *** *********** *** **** work?

**********, ******* ***** ** ********* *** many *********** *******

*********** ************ ** *** *** *** this. **** ** ********** ** ** this ****. * ***** *** ***** rates (** ** ***** ******* ** the ********) **** $***-$***, *** * know **** *********** ****** **** $** an ****. ****'* *** *** *** of **** ** **** ********** *********** makes. ****, ******* **** *********** *** small, *** ******** ****. *** ****** either *** *** *****-******** ********* ** not ***** *** ****** *********, ** offer ****** ********* ** *** **** nobody *** **** ****** ** **** it. * *** ****** *** **** cost-to-employee ****** ********* - ** ******* premiums, ** **********, *** *** ** no **-****. *** ** ******* * real ******* ******* ** * ****.

*** ****** *** ***** ***** ** the *** ** ***. *** ** these ****** **** ** ** *** drivers, ******* **** **** ***** *** from **** **********. (**********, *** ******* conceded ** *** ** ** *** new ******** *** ******** *********** ** the ***** ****.).

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Corey Keast
•Sep 06, 2023

**** ****** **** ****** * **** that **** *** *** ****** *** it. ******* *** *** ** *** incentivize **** ******* ***. ** ***** a ******* ** ******** ** * think ******* **** ******, ******** *******, dental, ******, *** **** *******; *** can ********* * ********** **** ********** than ***+ ****** ******* **** ** AC. **** *** **** $**** *** what ** *** ****? ****** *****? Further ******? **** ****? **********.

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