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Avigilon Analytics Lighting Guide For Construction Sites

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 04, 2018

I am planning on using an Avigilon system with analytics to monitor a construction site. Though when the Avigilon analytics report came out exposing the low light performance it kind of got my hopes down because most construction sites have little to no lighting. I guess the options are thermal or ir illuminators. Thermal will drastically increase the price and out of the clients budget. So I am left with adding ir illuminators. 

The site is 150m x 80m, based on the low light performance of the 3MP H4 (~110'/33m, PPF required 10) I am not even close to covering even the short side of the site with 2 H4's. And as for the long side even if I had multiple cameras on each end of the far side the middle would be a complete dead spot. 

So my question is would ir illuminators help me cover this perimeter at night, and if so what is the appropriate way to install the ir illuminators for the best analytic performance? Do I assign an ir illuminator to each camera? If so I'm assuming the ir distance has to be greater than the specified range of the H4 (50m)? Or do I flood the area with a high power 300-400ft illuminator? 

Can anyone help me implement a perimeter detection solution for these distances without the implementation of thermal? It is also important to note it is not possible to add a pole with cameras in the middle of the long side. I am hoping to accomplish this with varifocals and illuminators. White light illuminators are another possibility if performance increases or I may have to side with something like Bosch analytics where performance is not significantly affected below 1 lux.  

MM
Michael Miller
Aug 05, 2018

ANY camera you use at a construction site that has little to no light with have issues unless you add white light, IR or use thermal.  What you should do is TEST the camera in the conditions like that of your customer's site. If you want help designing this send me a message.  Good luck.

JH
John Honovich
Aug 05, 2018
IPVM

I agree with Mike about testing the camera in the customer's site. I don't agree with Mike about the 'any' camera with 'little' light as there are varying cameras available with various performance levels.

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 05, 2018

John, maybe an idea for a new testing? How well does 3rd party cameras using Avigilon analytics stack up against the H4 series? Maybe we can see greater low light performance with cameras that have more powerful IRs or starlight technology?

MM
Michael Miller
Aug 05, 2018

Do you have a dome camera in mind?  What is the best low light Bosch dome with analytics?  I have a need for a camera at my house to cover an area with little to no light.  This way I can test both Bosch analytics with Avigilon analytics on the same camera. 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 05, 2018

Flexidome IP starlight 7000 VR could be an option 

MM
Michael Miller
Aug 05, 2018

Looks to be EOL.  What else you got?

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 05, 2018

Sorry I am not that experienced with Bosch cameras, but by the looks of it, it is still active on the Bosch USA website. And the only fixed dome I can find that is starlight, 2mp with analytics .

MM
Michael Miller
Aug 05, 2018

You are right and I would like to edit that statement. I should have said any camera in the same price range. The VB-770 plus Avigilons ES box would be very good in low light but then again not every night has clear skies and full moon.  I would feel a lot more convertible with thermal and/or IR. 

U
Undisclosed #2
Aug 05, 2018

Does you budget allow a Sony VB770 to step in? Since this appears to be a construction camera, what is the duration of the construction? Is it possible to factor in 2-3 cameras over 10months with a direct installation charge + monthly?

How much do you really need to see at night?

 

UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 05, 2018

Well at $6k+$1k for the lens, I doubt it but is that the best value for this application? Tbh I have not tested a high resolution "starlight" camera in a construction site environment coupled with Avigilon analytics so I would not know. The duration of the project will be ~24 months, and it will be a solely monthly monitoring plan, no upfront installation cost.

As for how much I need to see? I just need the analytics to work. I wonder how many VB770 it would require to cover the perimeter of a 150x80m parcel with analytics... 

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U
Undisclosed #3
Aug 05, 2018

Would you consider live video monitoring?

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 05, 2018

Do you mean someone watching 8-12 streams of video 15 hours a day? Or event based monitoring? 

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U
Undisclosed #3
Aug 05, 2018

Not event.Live

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UI
Undisclosed Integrator #1
Aug 05, 2018

Is it a recognized monitoring station? How many streams of video is one person in charge of?

 

But the other problem that comes in play is network. Most construction sites will not have internet access. Therefore must use a 4g router, which will result in massive data charges if 8-12 streams are being viewed 15+ hours a day. But still maybe interested for other sites where internet access maybe available. 

U
Undisclosed #3
Aug 05, 2018

Please get my info from IPVM

U
Undisclosed #2
Aug 05, 2018

So the application is at night low lux monitoring? The consideration for the rolls Royce is only valid if you have the budget. Otherwise you will have to craft other solutions and this is a good place to start. IPVM.

 

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