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Any Electronic Technology Available That May Completely Lock Down For Pedestrians And Vehicles?

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Kevin Omolo
Jul 20, 2018

Team, I'm putting together a proposal for a hotel with three basement floors with lift access on each basement floor. The lifts are categorized into banquet or hotel guests. The architectural design is such that banquet lifts can only access up to third floor including the basement floors while hotel guest lift may access all floors. The client is interested in using technology to control movement of pedestrian and vehicular traffic within the hotel without inconveniencing their guests either for banquet or hotel guest floor access. I had thought of deploying access control into the lift cabins with a central access card processing point at the lowest basement floor and the ground floor. The client also thinks of using technology to achieve complete lock-down for basement access/exit should need arise. For this, I had thought of achieving by putting in access control rules onto the management software for lift access while also deploying K-Rated bollards for vehicles at the ground floor to control access to basement floors for vehicular access.

My challenge is that human pedestrian can easily jump over bollards should there be a lock down requirement if lifts are controlled to and from the basement floors. Is there an electronic technology available that may achieve a complete lock down both for pedestrians as well as vehicular. Any ideas shall be highly appreciated.

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Brian Rhodes
Jul 20, 2018
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My challenge is that human pedestrian can easily jump over bollards should there be a lock down requirement if lifts are controlled to and from the basement floors. Is there an electronic technology available that may achieve a complete lock down both for pedestrians as well as vehicular. Any ideas shall be highly appreciated.

Thanks, good question! 

You must maintain clear, unabated emergency egress routes for the building, including stairwells and elevators, in much of the world per life/safety code.

I bring this up only to mention that if including turnstiles/bollards of any height inhibits emergency egress, it likely is against code and a generally bad idea.

For controlling elevators, many access control systems disable controls/enable controls (call buttons and floor buttons) unless a valid card is read.  Card readers are located next to the control buttons, and unless a valid card is read first, the elevator buttons are turned off.  (See: Elevator Access Control Examined for more)

Does that help?

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Kevin Omolo
Jul 21, 2018

Thanks very much for the reply and on extension, your link to EAC, very helpful and informative.

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Undisclosed Integrator #1
Jul 21, 2018

I have seen quick deployment roll down gates in parkades.   These would stop a vehicle, but I wouldn’t want to be under one when it deployed. 

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Kevin Omolo
Jul 23, 2018

Oh, this is interesting. May you kindly share more information on these roll down gates in parkades

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